Champions Cup in OSM, how exactly?



  • Currently we’re working on the first few steps of implementing a Champions League-like tournament structure within OSM. Our goal of this new feature is to meet our manager’s demands and to bring more authenticity to the game. The first step we’re taking is to implement the group stage of this new type of tournament.

    The group stage is a short league with 4 teams, just like OSM is right now. There will be 8 different groups and each team will have it’s own objective. You will play 6 matches in total. E.g. group B with the following teams:

    • Barcelona
    • Tottenham Hotspur
    • PSV
    • Inter

    In the first stage of development these leagues will end after the group stage, so there won’t be a knockout stage yet.

    Our questions for you, the manager, are:

    • What are your thoughts and ideas of the group stage, will it be fun enough?
    • What would you miss?
    • What would you like to see?
    • What objectives would you like to see for the teams?


  • @william-van-velzen_nl It's good idea. I think everybody miss such interesting tournaments in OSM. However it's somewhere strange, that your are going to launch only group stage of CL. But I think it's like a test launch, and you will continue developing this tournament. If yes, then I congratulate you with such good idea.
    What about goals of teams. In my opinion in such tournaments goals should be different than in normal OSM leagues. For example: Club A's goal is to be leader of its group. Club B's goal is advancing to knockout stage.
    I wish you will also work on knockout stage of this tournament soon. Because knockout stage is the key part of such tournaments.



  • I agree! I like the beginning of a new OSM Idea, but the knockout phase is crucial.



  • It's a good idea, but I think that we aren't able to give good advice because we don't know how Osm really works, we are not programmers 🙂

    In my opinion, the knockout phase is too much important if you want to work on a Champions League-like tournament.
    Simply, after the group stage you will be entered in the following knockout stage, a sort of championship with only "cup structure" (and if you loose, you will be "freeze" until the end).

    I know is too much difficult to realize this type of structure, but I am one of the old "OFM" nostalgic managers , that still hopes that you'll put back the Fantasy League, so...I am a dreamer ☺



  • Stupend idea, for me, as long as it is done, it is already a great advance in the OSM world, it generates added value to the game. Nothing to add.



  • @guiz90 I like the way you are thinking. But instead of ""freeze" until the tournament system can simply "throw out" you, if you will lose your knockout stage match. Although, if managers will be frozen until tournament it is a time loss for them.



  • Thanks for all the feedback so far, guys!

    We really want to use your feedback to give us directions on how we're going to implement the Champions Cup in OSM, so keep it coming!

    To give you a thought on how we see this feature:

    • First we're going to make the easiest part: the group stages. These will be played just like OSM is played right now.
    • After that we will start developing the knockout stage. This is a new kind of gameplay in OSM which we can base upon the cup, but without the normal league matches.
    • Finally, we want to combine the group stages and the knockout stage to give you the full Champions Cup experience.

    This list is to illustrate our thoughts only. It can change due to your feedback, new insights and so on.. 🙂

    @Guiz90, never stop dreaming! The idea of the Fantasy League isn't dead yet 😉



  • Great Idea. Maybe add that players can't resign.



  • i Like,it's is a big idea.



  • I do not know if I can express my opinion here but as it is not the real world but a simulation, a group with 4 teams do not see how attractive there are different goals. could be without transfer with equal goals to all the teams.



  • @william-van-velzen_nl Quite a creative idea. This is going to change OSM in a good way, I feel.

    When the group stage and the knockout stage is combined then it would be super dope to have something for the third runner-up of that particular champions league, for instance, you fail to reach the finals, you have a chance to be the thrd runner-up (an objective of some sorts for specific low-end teams that maybe do not aspire for the finals).

    What I mean by this is that if you fail to reach the finals, you do not get disqualified but you play for the third place. I don't know if i'm making enough sense but that'd just be amazing to have.



  • I like the idea 👍🏻, finally OSM is working on something speical, can't wait to see how this will go .



  • @william-van-velzen_nl an slot more is need for Champions... 😄



  • @william-van-velzen_nl said in Champions Cup in OSM, how exactly?:

    Thanks for all the feedback so far, guys!

    We really want to use your feedback to give us directions on how we're going to implement the Champions Cup in OSM, so keep it coming!

    To give you a thought on how we see this feature:

    • First we're going to make the easiest part: the group stages. These will be played just like OSM is played right now.
    • After that we will start developing the knockout stage. This is a new kind of gameplay in OSM which we can base upon the cup, but without the normal league matches.
      Finally, we want to combine the group stages and the knockout stage to give you the full Champions Cup experience.>

    Something new, something different can bring only good feedbacks.
    It's ideal, there is a need for such a competition, nevertheless, cutting the last phase would be great, because implementation of a league type championship would cancel all the particularity. Only knock-out matches, just like of real UCL.

    By the way, such an unpleasant new interface...



  • While it's something new, it will be a good thing. In this case the idea in principle I like, and I think that everyone seems the same.
    It would be necessary to see how to do with the eliminatory phase. At this moment, how I see it, there are 2 options:

    • Make 2 leagues, one with the group stage and another with the eliminatory (In this case the eliminatory should be in cup format, and in the case of losing the manager must resign).

    • Relate both phases in the same league, losers should also be eliminated.

    The problem I see is the difference in value between teams, a solution? give a couple of days of preseason for teams like AEK or CSKA Moscow can give a fight.



  • A first step in the right direction is adding the Group Stages of the Champions League to OSM. You can check them under Special.

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    Let's see how we like playing these leagues (A-H are available). Please let us know what you think!



  • @harry-poon @William-van-Velzen_NL hi, will the teams continue in the next phase the same as finishing the first phase?



  • Hi @dj-l3o-ferrari,
    This is the end goal that we're trying to reach, you'd qualify for the knock-out phase!
    We're developing the Champions League experience in steps.
    Starting with the poule phase and the knock-out phase as separate leagues.
    Eventually we will combine the two modes (easier said than done).


  • Global Staff

    Let's see...

    Group stage

    8 groups = 32 teams (16 goes to knockout stage)

    Knockout stage

    Best-16
    Quaterfinals
    Semifinals
    Final match

    Champions Cup = 6 + 4 = 10 matches max.


    Suggestions

    • No Transfers.
    • No Training camps.
    • No Timers and Boss Compensation.

    Ideal teams for this league would be like fantasy league worked. I know that 32 teams... Won't be easy and we can suffer a delay to have all teams completed, this is why maybe, if we want to have a OSM Champions system, we must reduce teams from 32 to 16.

    If we want just the "Official" Champions league here in OSM, just continue with 32 teams and keep with the main idea but teams value have a very big difference between them and we can't do anything in 3-4 days to change it.

    Personally, i'm not interested in this system but, if Gamebasic make a big effort to have something new... Just be sure that you all are going to do something that really like to users.


    Alternative to the Group+Knockout system

    Group stage

    8 groups = 32 teams

    2nd stage

    1st and 2nd place from each group goes to the final league (16 teams)
    3rd and 4th place from each group goes to another league (16 teams)

    Just one row of matches (Not home and away) and with this alternative we can have transfers. We play 6 + 15 matches = 21 matches + 3-4 preparation days is around 24-25 days playing this special league system, no more than a 10 teams normal league that all users use to play during all year.


    To end my post, i already know that if Gamebasics is already thinking about a knockout stage, they don't really want an alternative... I hope you get what you want and users would be fine with the champions experience, i won't test it but i know that this system is something that users are suggesting since I began to play OFM 🙂
    Good luck with that!



  • Hi @markez17,

    The reason why we're posting this feature on the forums (before it's even in the game) is because we want user feedback and suggestions.
    We know that the concept of a "Champions League" inspired mode is something the community has been fantasizing about since the beginning of OSM.
    We want to include them in the development process and make this an awesome feature!

    Currently we don't have a refined idea about the knock-out phase, so your feedback and suggestions are welcome and will be looked at.