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  • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

    @koningco There's a bonus on simulations for the better specialists possible according with your starting 11. Same way as there's a bonus for a minimum of 6 players of same nationality and players on their correct positions.

    The total weight of bonus from below features is pretty much the same.

    • specialists (4 specialists) - individual per specialist
    • nationality (minimum 6 players same nationality) - bonus only if you've at least 6
    • specific positions (11 correct players) - individual player
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    @specialone So about specialists: we have to pick the best specialist in our starting eleven. And only if we pick the right player then we will receive the bonus for that specialist?

    So if I have Lewandowski (age 32, skill 105), Varane (age 27, skill 102) and Kanté (age 29, skill 109) in my squad than I will have to pick the right guy as captain to get the bonus. Kanté is probably a better captain then Varane, but I won't get any bonus in case Lewandowski is the best captain?

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      @specialone So about specialists: we have to pick the best specialist in our starting eleven. And only if we pick the right player then we will receive the bonus for that specialist?

      So if I have Lewandowski (age 32, skill 105), Varane (age 27, skill 102) and Kanté (age 29, skill 109) in my squad than I will have to pick the right guy as captain to get the bonus. Kanté is probably a better captain then Varane, but I won't get any bonus in case Lewandowski is the best captain?

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      @koningco
      There is no real-life captaincy skill in OSM. I think a perfect choice would be a player who is old and has experience with the team. Eg- 29 year De Bruyne with more team experience with Man City vs Jordan Henderson 30 years with lesser experience with City (as an example he plays for City) I would choose Kevin. But in an example in which you have players with maximum age 24 but spent enough time with team and Agüero 32 years old but less experience with team, I would still choose Sergio Kun.

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      • Koning CoK Koning Co

        @specialone So about specialists: we have to pick the best specialist in our starting eleven. And only if we pick the right player then we will receive the bonus for that specialist?

        So if I have Lewandowski (age 32, skill 105), Varane (age 27, skill 102) and Kanté (age 29, skill 109) in my squad than I will have to pick the right guy as captain to get the bonus. Kanté is probably a better captain then Varane, but I won't get any bonus in case Lewandowski is the best captain?

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        @koningco everything below is my opinion/experience

        captain − just the oldest player (even if his rating is lower by 10-20 points from your best player, and the difference is only a year)
        about 30+ years - i dont know; it can be checked in the All-Star League (26 years league 😄)
        when I win matches, commentators can still say that my best player is a bad captain, sometimes vice versa - the player with the best rating "perfect captain, you can't imagine better" or something like that; on the basis of this, I concluded: or is it realism, where commentators can say anything and do not need to be believed, or (😏) GB slightly unfinished and thrown it at this point
        penalty taker − just your best striker (again: even if you have midfielder with 85 overall i choose striker with 69 attack, for example, if i play with 1 forward)
        he may not score 2 penalties in a row or you will not hit them at all, but such a choice, as I understand it, gives a bonus of specialists, because choosing the best midfielder with highest attack or overall, the commentators condemned this choice; but I could be wrong, as they are not the best source
        with free-kicks and corners − i dont know; logically free-kicks for midfielder or striker with best attack skill, corners for the best midfielder with highest overall; but somewhere here i saw another valid opinion: free-kicks for the best midfielder with highest overall and corners for midfielder with best attack skill
        generally speaking the correct answer was in the old Tactics Request, but it disappeared...
        there was a lot of other useful things, and not like now "how to play against 442b, here is my lineup..."

        Just give it some time and you'll find out that medals will be more balanced and according to the manager level/skills.

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          @koningco everything below is my opinion/experience

          captain − just the oldest player (even if his rating is lower by 10-20 points from your best player, and the difference is only a year)
          about 30+ years - i dont know; it can be checked in the All-Star League (26 years league 😄)
          when I win matches, commentators can still say that my best player is a bad captain, sometimes vice versa - the player with the best rating "perfect captain, you can't imagine better" or something like that; on the basis of this, I concluded: or is it realism, where commentators can say anything and do not need to be believed, or (😏) GB slightly unfinished and thrown it at this point
          penalty taker − just your best striker (again: even if you have midfielder with 85 overall i choose striker with 69 attack, for example, if i play with 1 forward)
          he may not score 2 penalties in a row or you will not hit them at all, but such a choice, as I understand it, gives a bonus of specialists, because choosing the best midfielder with highest attack or overall, the commentators condemned this choice; but I could be wrong, as they are not the best source
          with free-kicks and corners − i dont know; logically free-kicks for midfielder or striker with best attack skill, corners for the best midfielder with highest overall; but somewhere here i saw another valid opinion: free-kicks for the best midfielder with highest overall and corners for midfielder with best attack skill
          generally speaking the correct answer was in the old Tactics Request, but it disappeared...
          there was a lot of other useful things, and not like now "how to play against 442b, here is my lineup..."

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          @wenger-wise What do you do when you have 2 players which have the same high age? Will you make the player on the most central position on the pitch captain or will you make the player with a few more points in skills the captain? For example when you have two 33 year old potential captains: a DR with 103 skill or a MC with 101 skill?

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            @wenger-wise What do you do when you have 2 players which have the same high age? Will you make the player on the most central position on the pitch captain or will you make the player with a few more points in skills the captain? For example when you have two 33 year old potential captains: a DR with 103 skill or a MC with 101 skill?

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            @koningco age - 1st priority, skill - 2nd. If both parameters are equal, also important dont give to the player all tasks (it seems that assigning more than two roles to the player harms the bonus, not sure). For this reason i prefer defenders or goalkeepers as a captains. Also if both parameters are equal, i pay attention to the average rating (perfomance). But 99% it doesn't make sense as well as most central position or not
            a bigger problem for me is choosing a corner or free kick specialist if i have to choose from two of these midfielders:
            Screenshot_7.png
            btw, congrats with the addition of tips to the browser version ;D I suppose your persistence paid off and this is a very useful thing, including for the selection of specialists

            Just give it some time and you'll find out that medals will be more balanced and according to the manager level/skills.

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              @koningco age - 1st priority, skill - 2nd. If both parameters are equal, also important dont give to the player all tasks (it seems that assigning more than two roles to the player harms the bonus, not sure). For this reason i prefer defenders or goalkeepers as a captains. Also if both parameters are equal, i pay attention to the average rating (perfomance). But 99% it doesn't make sense as well as most central position or not
              a bigger problem for me is choosing a corner or free kick specialist if i have to choose from two of these midfielders:
              Screenshot_7.png
              btw, congrats with the addition of tips to the browser version ;D I suppose your persistence paid off and this is a very useful thing, including for the selection of specialists

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              @wenger-wise When I have doubts about the free kick taker I always picked the guy that scored more often.

              One of the difficult guys in many of my teams is Cristiano Ronaldo. He is most of the time my best captain and also penalty taker. When it comes to free kicks I possibly shouldn't select him there, but today I found out that Gnabry was also the wrong choice.

              I am happy to see the comments in the web version now. I missed the comments most of the days, because I only use the app about once per week (the app is much slower than the web version).

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                Today in the tips, I learnt that always prefer some midfielder for corner kicks. Neither a forward nor any defender.

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                  Two other tips I learnt: Never give a player more than 2 specialist roles, or try giving not more than 1 also, or the player becomes preoccupied.
                  Counter-attack is not good on 3-4-3 B.

                  Note: These tips were given by the tipster, so don't think I'm saying by myself.

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                    Another one: 4-3-3 formations are the best with wing play that the tipster told me 2 times that he loved the style of play.

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                    • Koning CoK Koning Co

                      @wenger-wise When I have doubts about the free kick taker I always picked the guy that scored more often.

                      One of the difficult guys in many of my teams is Cristiano Ronaldo. He is most of the time my best captain and also penalty taker. When it comes to free kicks I possibly shouldn't select him there, but today I found out that Gnabry was also the wrong choice.

                      I am happy to see the comments in the web version now. I missed the comments most of the days, because I only use the app about once per week (the app is much slower than the web version).

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                      @koningco yeah... i have average smartphone, but the loading time averages 30 seconds
                      in my understanding, this should be, if not an order of magnitude, then many times faster

                      Just give it some time and you'll find out that medals will be more balanced and according to the manager level/skills.

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                        Two other tips I learnt: Never give a player more than 2 specialist roles, or try giving not more than 1 also, or the player becomes preoccupied.
                        Counter-attack is not good on 3-4-3 B.

                        Note: These tips were given by the tipster, so don't think I'm saying by myself.

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                        @vinayak-singh-mehra said in specialists:

                        Two other tips I learnt: Never give a player more than 2 specialist roles, or try giving not more than 1 also, or the player becomes preoccupied.
                        Counter-attack is not good on 3-4-3 B.

                        Note: These tips were given by the tipster, so don't think I'm saying by myself.

                        Just wondering, what should I do when one player is the best on 3 specialist roles? Like Cristiano Ronaldo: best captain, best striker and best free kick taker. At my team Barnsley Ronaldo has 100 skill and Gnabry 96, but I still got the message that Gnabry was not the best free kick taker (I had Ronaldo as captain and penalty taker).

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                          @vinayak-singh-mehra said in specialists:

                          Two other tips I learnt: Never give a player more than 2 specialist roles, or try giving not more than 1 also, or the player becomes preoccupied.
                          Counter-attack is not good on 3-4-3 B.

                          Note: These tips were given by the tipster, so don't think I'm saying by myself.

                          Just wondering, what should I do when one player is the best on 3 specialist roles? Like Cristiano Ronaldo: best captain, best striker and best free kick taker. At my team Barnsley Ronaldo has 100 skill and Gnabry 96, but I still got the message that Gnabry was not the best free kick taker (I had Ronaldo as captain and penalty taker).

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                          @koningco i suppose in this situation impossible to obtain specialists bonus. Like if you haven't 28/29+ years old players in your line-up you cant choose right captain. A little bit illogical, but seems thats the way it works

                          Just give it some time and you'll find out that medals will be more balanced and according to the manager level/skills.

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                            @vinayak-singh-mehra said in specialists:

                            Two other tips I learnt: Never give a player more than 2 specialist roles, or try giving not more than 1 also, or the player becomes preoccupied.
                            Counter-attack is not good on 3-4-3 B.

                            Note: These tips were given by the tipster, so don't think I'm saying by myself.

                            Just wondering, what should I do when one player is the best on 3 specialist roles? Like Cristiano Ronaldo: best captain, best striker and best free kick taker. At my team Barnsley Ronaldo has 100 skill and Gnabry 96, but I still got the message that Gnabry was not the best free kick taker (I had Ronaldo as captain and penalty taker).

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                            @koningco
                            Gnabry in the penalties and Ronaldo in free-kicks and captain is good maybe. However, while choosing a penalty taker you might have seen a tip to choose the most fearless player. Could that mean the player with most morale and experience. I'm confused with this from months and would appreciate getting help from someone from the staff or won't mind getting help from others too.

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                              @koningco i suppose in this situation impossible to obtain specialists bonus. Like if you haven't 28/29+ years old players in your line-up you cant choose right captain. A little bit illogical, but seems thats the way it works

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                              @wenger-wise i will normally just choose the highest age one in that case

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                                  @koningco i suppose in this situation impossible to obtain specialists bonus. Like if you haven't 28/29+ years old players in your line-up you cant choose right captain. A little bit illogical, but seems thats the way it works

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                                  @wenger-wise said in specialists:

                                  @koningco i suppose in this situation impossible to obtain specialists bonus. Like if you haven't 28/29+ years old players in your line-up you cant choose right captain. A little bit illogical, but seems thats the way it works

                                  When I played the U21 NT tournament I got a comment that my 22 year old captain was the right choice. Obviously in this tournament everyone has a captain that is 21 or 22 year old. So not sure if we can't have the bonus in that U21 tournament or when our oldest player is like 27 years old (doesn't happen often in my teams).

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                                    @wenger-wise said in specialists:

                                    @koningco i suppose in this situation impossible to obtain specialists bonus. Like if you haven't 28/29+ years old players in your line-up you cant choose right captain. A little bit illogical, but seems thats the way it works

                                    When I played the U21 NT tournament I got a comment that my 22 year old captain was the right choice. Obviously in this tournament everyone has a captain that is 21 or 22 year old. So not sure if we can't have the bonus in that U21 tournament or when our oldest player is like 27 years old (doesn't happen often in my teams).

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                                    @koningco
                                    Maybe that's because no one is old there, right?

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                                          Mate...if you want to discuss tactics or post "tips" for tactics, use the original topic for tactics...this topic if for specialists and let's keep it that way....

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