Divisions - Discussion/Questions....
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@alyssagb said in Game Updates:
Manager Points replaced by Manager Medals
A while ago we added Divisions to OSM. Data and various surveys that we have conducted in the past months show that Divisions is a success and is well used by our managers.
Divisions is a worthy replacement for the Manager Points system. Therefore, we're going to phasing out Manager Points in the coming months. After that, Manager Points will no longer be visible in OSM.
Good luck playing and competing for the highest Division!
Worst decision ever
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@majstor-matt It seems that we refuse to understand that OSM is just a business for them. A business from which they must earn as much money as possible.
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@majstor-matt
I saw how much they care about customers after winning OSM WC 2 times, ''the only official tournament organized by OSM''. They didn't found it appropriate to send me at least a letter, a shirt or whatever, just as souvenir. But if you buy a small pack of coins during weekend events for 15€ you have the chance to win a shirt. I mean I can live without these things, but this only shows how much they care.If they have at least 1% conscience then they should at least make some legacy section on our profiles to show our best world and nation ranking (manager pts ranking) ,total manager pts collected etc. and not to remove our complete game history like we never existed.
Not to mention that this medals system should be completely changed because at the moment it has no connection with logic and common sense.
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@manyac-xx I get that. But still, why was so hard to keep the MP system alongside this P2W system? Something for everyone.
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Good afternoon. I do not agree with the elimination of manager points. No matter how hard they try, they will never achieve a fair global ranking system. Not for points, not for medals.
Regarding WC 2021, we still don't know how it will be. I hope it is not because of the overall medal classification, because it will be very unfair for many coaches.
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@majstor-matt said in Game Updates:
@manyac-xx I get that. But still, why was so hard to keep the MP system alongside this P2W system? Something for everyone.
Because new users are investing more money to get to the top. To reach the top through manager points you have to play for a longer period of time and many do not have the patience to play for a year or more to get there. They want to be in top as soon as possible. So GB has created a system where new managers can reach the top very easily and quickly and so it makes them invest more and more money to stay there.
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you think that staff will even reply or care? All about the money. Very bad customer service. I agree with Nenad and Matt. This new ranking is shocking, people that play 4 easy leagues are better ranked than people that play against good managers in competitions and very strong leagues
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I'm seriously starting thinking that old customers are not liked very much from GB owners and from the ones who rules this game today.
Every single decision is taken against competitive game and against the people who plays since many years ago.
First has been canceling classic battles, for the "fair play" they said and isn't important if they've introduced the App battles where is not necessary that you know how to play...only important thing is to know the pin of the credit card. Then this system of divisions medals and other things where a kid can start today and next week he's better ranked than someone who's playing since 2010.
Win a game +400, lose a game -1400...playing competitive leagues is impossible to have a good Ranking...why? because kids must be ranked better than the old players otherwise they will get bored and will not ask for their father's credit card anymore.
Not a single decision taken in last 3 years was done for old customers...everything against competitive gaming and everything against us and this is very sad. -
The worst part is that all the well-ranked players spend next to nothing:
4 closed accounts, alone, against the computer so no recruiting, no friends, no training course no time accelerator ..... No logic ... Only dummies who will be the image of the game ... Ridiculous .. Why not take into account for medals only and only open championships !!!!! And on one account .. !!!!!!! At least we can play good championships against good managers on other ...
And the count taken into account represents the value of the player ... Shameful, ridiculous -
@manyac-xx
I get all that, and it is shocking that they are not doing anything to at least keep a little bit of respect to older customers.. I mean even UEFA has a financial fair play.. lolAnyway, decision is made and we can wrkte whatever we want. It will never be the same anymore. They simply dont care about out feedback and opinion. Only cash talks.
But hey, lets not forget, classic battles are the main problem!
But when noob buys mass of BCs in a single league and is still using bot accounts to boost his precious Medals, then its okay -
@alyssagb Hello!
Call it a success it's not a responsible sentence, in my humble opinion.
I'm a really active player. I study a lot in order to improve my game and I have played the majority of the competitions. I've won 3 winners cup, for example, so I know deeply the app leagues. And I've also played forum individual and crew competitions, which are the best.
And my conclusion is that the best OSM players in the world are the ones who play really competitive leagues in the forum competitions. But if you play those type of competitions you will lose 5 to 10 games and you will always have a lower ranking.
Look at my specific case: I'm a 9 Division Player with 420k medals. When I play Historic Club Leagues, for example, where there are 22 rounds and all the players are good, even if I finish top 3 I will lose 5 games, minimum. That means I will lose 7.000 medals. If I win 11 games I will win 4.400 medals. If I drew 5 games I will win 200 medals. This means that my balance will be -2.400 medals. And I finished top 3 in the league. Do you call that a success?
OSM is choosing the profit path! What do you want is that players buy even more and more BCs. If you want a strong community you should rethink your decisions and evaluate it in a more responsible way. You are killing the OSM spirit and that doesn't connect me more to the game. Think wiser!
Best regards,
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@jfpd-ubi
I always wonder where are those people from surveys that they make?
They are always incapable of showing their support for these changes...I would like to see just once that they say fair and square to us: sorry guys but in order ro acumulate profit and money we nees to do this and that. Tell us to our faces, dont rub our noses with imaginary surveys... -
i´ve got one word to describe this, WOW! knowing that all my effort done climbing the rank, reaching top 100, will go through rubbish is very, very sad... knowing that most of the coaches who will be at the top of the rankings will be inexperienced coaches, who play leagues ALONE, or with MULTI-ACCOUNTs and coaches who after a few weeks uninstall the game... sad. i have a league with 16 very good players, and i don´t care if i lose medals, i must care about trying new tactics, and doing a hard league to play. i only started in the end of 2016, but since then, osm doesn´t care about the old players... only about money, and knowing that i´ve never spent a coin to buy boss coins is the best feeling right now. This update is going to be the worst in osm... My regards, and please osm, do smth, or you will lose great players in the game.
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@alyssagb If this were to be done, there would be great injustice
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To everyone who plays OSM competitively:
- They took away the classic battles
- They put us App battles and they don't even let us select rivals to play tournaments
- They gave us a ranking that only rewards those who play 4 bad public leagues simultaneously
- Now those of us who have spent years are taken away from the ranking in which it has cost us so much to climb based on constancy.
The question is: what harm does it do to leave that ranking on par with the other?
It is incomprehensible how every decision made from above always seems designed to annoy its most loyal consumers.
Their opinion is never heard.
We all know that these surveys are not reality, by chance no one on this forum gets them, but it is good to say it, of course.I think that not everything is worth for money, you are destroying the game.
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Ridiculous
Osm is heading for ruin ... the fact that it doesn't want to hear the many opinions of its consumers leads a project to go downhill sooner or later ... something that will happen to osm when taking the good stuff that the game has ...
This new system is ridiculous ...
-> a person who is fighting for the ranking will stop playing competitions in order to minimize losses´
-> a person who can only be active in a slot will not have a chance
-> a person who does not enter the 4 leagues in ultimate goals and invest countless coins will not have a chance to fight for the ranking.Osm is declining and does not see that consumers are not happy
So far nobody liked this ... read the comments -.- "
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@alyssagb Well, a positive I can say to this is that it gives new managers an urge to want to play in order to move up the rankings and compete for the title of the best.
Change is inevitable. Algorithms change from time to time. I support this new system.
I sympathize with my fellow long-time playing managers but OSM mostly caters to the sophomores now. Most old players have retired.
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This in my view has a clear target almost 1 year ago that eliminated the forum battles ready until we can understand that yes the concessions were unfair.
Now removing a ranking that promotes greater justice among those who owe is the best or worst player for a very weak Ranking does not seem at all fair.
So the biggest proof I have is that in the last few months my group had recruiting leagues and by chance some asked and the others went to get the new Ranking initially, the result that happened was surprising because those in the new Ranking did not know how to play their interest in it is zero, that is, the medal ranking who are at the top are like 95% of the players are amateurs who have no real interest in the game and of course have accounts with less than 1 year.
In conclusion this has a clear target, which are the OSM crews, as, as some mentioned, there must be 4 slots to start some investing, which will lead to many not joining the groups because they participate in competitions, APP battles and for making group leagues to evolve tactically. -
The game is becoming less and less interesting for us "old-school managers". In future we will probably have to pay for the app? It's free for you. I don't want a commission for the tip either!
Tip to Miniclip: You can then earn even more money with it. That should only be in your interest!
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