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    Vinayak Singh Mehra
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    Guys I've come up with a survey, please check it and answer your opinions.
    https://forms.gle/zdr9FqoQCTVuQpJE7

    Boss at Pro Manager Guiders
    Be the one who thinks for all, just not for himself! #SaveOSM

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    • V Vinayak Singh Mehra

      It's just a game though, but manager points are no joke. Support the movement with using- #BringBackManagerPoints #JusticeForOldPlayers #MPAreBetterThanMedals #MakeOSMGreatAgain #SaveOSM

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      A question for all of you guys:
      Would you be willing to pay a monthly or annual fee to the game owner to play by the rules that are most suitable for those who play professionally?
      For example, How much does it costs to create a championship? 250-300 coins on average, would you be willing to pay 750 coins to create a championship that can be used for a classic battles? would you be willing to pay an additional annual fee to access the creation of these leagues?
      Would you pay the owner of the game to keep both systems, medals and MP?

      I work for a Bank, I know business is important, and I can understand that who put money in this business want to have his economical return. Times are changed and it's not possible to play free anymore.
      Would you pay to keep the game as 2/3 years ago?

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      • V Vinayak Singh Mehra

        Guys I've come up with a survey, please check it and answer your opinions.
        https://forms.gle/zdr9FqoQCTVuQpJE7

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        Vinayak Singh Mehra
        English Users
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        @vinayak-singh-mehra said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

        Guys I've come up with a survey, please check it and answer your opinions.
        https://forms.gle/zdr9FqoQCTVuQpJE7

        I've removed the feature of logging in so everybody can access to this survey now.

        Boss at Pro Manager Guiders
        Be the one who thinks for all, just not for himself! #SaveOSM

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        • RafelmazR Rafelmaz

          A question for all of you guys:
          Would you be willing to pay a monthly or annual fee to the game owner to play by the rules that are most suitable for those who play professionally?
          For example, How much does it costs to create a championship? 250-300 coins on average, would you be willing to pay 750 coins to create a championship that can be used for a classic battles? would you be willing to pay an additional annual fee to access the creation of these leagues?
          Would you pay the owner of the game to keep both systems, medals and MP?

          I work for a Bank, I know business is important, and I can understand that who put money in this business want to have his economical return. Times are changed and it's not possible to play free anymore.
          Would you pay to keep the game as 2/3 years ago?

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          @rafelmaz

          This has no relation because what is set up allows to be well classified in the ranking of medals by playing closed championships against the computer .. So without recruiting, without transfer, and without friendlies ... therefore without spending coins .... While to be at the top of the coaching points ranking I have to recruit a lot and set up training camps for example ...

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            #179

            So many questions that were left unanswered -.- "

            Anyway ... it's usual ... it's already normal for players to be ignored

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            • xXSpeedKillX xXSpeedKill

              So many questions that were left unanswered -.- "

              Anyway ... it's usual ... it's already normal for players to be ignored

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              @xxspeedkill said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

              So many questions that were left unanswered -.- "

              Anyway ... it's usual ... it's already normal for players to be ignored

              Yeah and staff want forum activity with posts on the forums in competitions but can’t be bothered to reply to people😂ask for feedback with certain things but don’t talk to the community or very rare . It’s laughable isn’t it!

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              • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                @xxspeedkill said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                So many questions that were left unanswered -.- "

                Anyway ... it's usual ... it's already normal for players to be ignored

                Yeah and staff want forum activity with posts on the forums in competitions but can’t be bothered to reply to people😂ask for feedback with certain things but don’t talk to the community or very rare . It’s laughable isn’t it!

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                @jeffro-davies

                Any day I start to think that it is a conspiracy for players to abandon the game ahah. They always do everything in reverse

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                  @jeffro-davies

                  Any day I start to think that it is a conspiracy for players to abandon the game ahah. They always do everything in reverse

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                  @xxspeedkill seems they want managers that’s played the game for years to leave I definitely agree with that. Every single big update they do is bad for managers that’s played the game for years😂don’t debate with us at at all or give their opinions on things but always want ours then do nothing or very little about them anyway😂Always the community talking to each other and never no staff on threads about updates.

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                    Vinayak Singh Mehra
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                    Thank you to all who responded to the manager points survey! I didn't expect more than 30 responses, but a total of 142 responses have been recorded as of now. The responses will be shared after this month ends. But if you're doing the form again and again, that would be unfair. So please don't do it. And once again, a very big thanks♥️♥️

                    Boss at Pro Manager Guiders
                    Be the one who thinks for all, just not for himself! #SaveOSM

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                      @somrob

                      Maybe it is the 10,000 ranking of the year 2022 ... if in 2022 there are 10,000 players to make a ranking

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                        @ialeksandari ´

                        Besides that the game is becoming more and more casual, less competitive and without goals ... that type of game that is played for 2 months and we get tired

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                        • V Vinayak Singh Mehra

                          Thank you to all who responded to the manager points survey! I didn't expect more than 30 responses, but a total of 142 responses have been recorded as of now. The responses will be shared after this month ends. But if you're doing the form again and again, that would be unfair. So please don't do it. And once again, a very big thanks♥️♥️

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                          @vinayak-singh-mehra said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                          Thank you to all who responded to the manager points survey! I didn't expect more than 30 responses, but a total of 142 responses have been recorded as of now. The responses will be shared after this month ends. But if you're doing the form again and again, that would be unfair. So please don't do it. And once again, a very big thanks♥️♥️

                          Manager points survey?

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                            @somrob I am also in top 10k in ranking and nobody ask me about my opinion. Also in Polish community there is some romours that this is not good change to replace MP with medals

                            'Najpierw cię ignorują, potem się z ciebie śmieją później z tobą walczą, a na końcu wygrywasz"

                            Ghandi

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                              @SpecialOne
                              I have 2 questions, would be nice if you could answer... 😁

                              1. Currently, at the end of each season we get an amount of BossCoins as reward, depending on how many MP's we collected. What will happen after you remove MP's? Will we still get BC's at the end of the season?

                              2. At the moment I get always the same number of medals if I beat a human manager, no matter which goal I'm or which goal he is. It's always the same...Till now most managers played with lower goals (goal 16, goal 13, goal 9 etc.) just in order to collect more MP's. Does it mean that with the removal of MP's club goals are becoming irrelevant? Why would I choose to manage WBA or Fulham in EPL? Ofc I will take ManCity or Liverpool...

                              Can you explain please... 😁

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                                @SpecialOne
                                I have 2 questions, would be nice if you could answer... 😁

                                1. Currently, at the end of each season we get an amount of BossCoins as reward, depending on how many MP's we collected. What will happen after you remove MP's? Will we still get BC's at the end of the season?

                                2. At the moment I get always the same number of medals if I beat a human manager, no matter which goal I'm or which goal he is. It's always the same...Till now most managers played with lower goals (goal 16, goal 13, goal 9 etc.) just in order to collect more MP's. Does it mean that with the removal of MP's club goals are becoming irrelevant? Why would I choose to manage WBA or Fulham in EPL? Ofc I will take ManCity or Liverpool...

                                Can you explain please... 😁

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                                @menagerbl I think if they counted on medals, then the administration's goal would not become important

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                                  @SpecialOne
                                  I have 2 questions, would be nice if you could answer... 😁

                                  1. Currently, at the end of each season we get an amount of BossCoins as reward, depending on how many MP's we collected. What will happen after you remove MP's? Will we still get BC's at the end of the season?

                                  2. At the moment I get always the same number of medals if I beat a human manager, no matter which goal I'm or which goal he is. It's always the same...Till now most managers played with lower goals (goal 16, goal 13, goal 9 etc.) just in order to collect more MP's. Does it mean that with the removal of MP's club goals are becoming irrelevant? Why would I choose to manage WBA or Fulham in EPL? Ofc I will take ManCity or Liverpool...

                                  Can you explain please... 😁

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                                  @menagerbl perfect...

                                  A new osm survey has been received by a friend unfortunately I have not had ...

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                                  • MenagerBLM MenagerBL

                                    @SpecialOne
                                    I have 2 questions, would be nice if you could answer... 😁

                                    1. Currently, at the end of each season we get an amount of BossCoins as reward, depending on how many MP's we collected. What will happen after you remove MP's? Will we still get BC's at the end of the season?

                                    2. At the moment I get always the same number of medals if I beat a human manager, no matter which goal I'm or which goal he is. It's always the same...Till now most managers played with lower goals (goal 16, goal 13, goal 9 etc.) just in order to collect more MP's. Does it mean that with the removal of MP's club goals are becoming irrelevant? Why would I choose to manage WBA or Fulham in EPL? Ofc I will take ManCity or Liverpool...

                                    Can you explain please... 😁

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                                    @menagerbl said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                                    @SpecialOne
                                    I have 2 questions, would be nice if you could answer... 😁

                                    1. Currently, at the end of each season we get an amount of BossCoins as reward, depending on how many MP's we collected. What will happen after you remove MP's? Will we still get BC's at the end of the season?

                                    We'll maintain the end of season bonus. It won't be calculated same way they are now, but the amount of BCs that every manager will earn at the end of season will be similar/the same as it is now.

                                    1. At the moment I get always the same number of medals if I beat a human manager, no matter which goal I'm or which goal he is. It's always the same...Till now most managers played with lower goals (goal 16, goal 13, goal 9 etc.) just in order to collect more MP's. Does it mean that with the removal of MP's club goals are becoming irrelevant? Why would I choose to manage WBA or Fulham in EPL? Ofc I will take ManCity or Liverpool...

                                    Can you explain please... 😁

                                    On manager points system, the points you get to beat a goal 1 or a goal 16 is exactly the same, the difference lies on the end of season bonus (that's added on a daily basis on manager points and only at the end of season on Medals system). The bonus you get for finishing on a specific position depends on the goal of the team you played with!

                                    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                                      @menagerbl said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                                      @SpecialOne
                                      I have 2 questions, would be nice if you could answer... 😁

                                      1. Currently, at the end of each season we get an amount of BossCoins as reward, depending on how many MP's we collected. What will happen after you remove MP's? Will we still get BC's at the end of the season?

                                      We'll maintain the end of season bonus. It won't be calculated same way they are now, but the amount of BCs that every manager will earn at the end of season will be similar/the same as it is now.

                                      1. At the moment I get always the same number of medals if I beat a human manager, no matter which goal I'm or which goal he is. It's always the same...Till now most managers played with lower goals (goal 16, goal 13, goal 9 etc.) just in order to collect more MP's. Does it mean that with the removal of MP's club goals are becoming irrelevant? Why would I choose to manage WBA or Fulham in EPL? Ofc I will take ManCity or Liverpool...

                                      Can you explain please... 😁

                                      On manager points system, the points you get to beat a goal 1 or a goal 16 is exactly the same, the difference lies on the end of season bonus (that's added on a daily basis on manager points and only at the end of season on Medals system). The bonus you get for finishing on a specific position depends on the goal of the team you played with!

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                                      @specialone
                                      Thanks for the answer. 👍

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                                        Is it possible to play OSM competitively and for ranking with medal system?

                                        Sure it is. As I mentioned before when I gave myself as an example, you can play with both goals, but to be a manager on TOP 100 playing in really competitive leagues with really good managers is risky, because losing a match in an high division will cost you a lot of medals.

                                        Playing against human managers grants you way more medals than playing against CPUs, this makes the climb way faster, but it's also risky because one defeat can send you down quite a bit due to the amount of points you lose.

                                        Again it's a manager choice to decide at which rate he wants to climb on rankings and which risks he wants to take.

                                        I'm playing for several years and now with this new ranking I'll be losing everything?

                                        That's not correct, when this new medal system was implemented, ALL managers got their manager points converted to medals system. New users started with zero.

                                        You may say that in a couple days users that were started OSM a couple months before and they jumped immediately to Top positions.... Well, this is what happens in all systems when they are implemented. It's not possible to make a smooth transition when you don't start from scratch.
                                        There were two options: discard everything and every single user will start from same point (it will have to force a system, where everyone had to be sacked from their leagues, etc, etc) or just do what we've done, convert existing points and risk to have a few managers getting some advantages over others.
                                        I believe that we all agree that the best option wasn't for sure to reset everything for all users.

                                        Bottom line, ALL old school managers had their past MPs added to their medals and because of that they started with some advance over new users!

                                        "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                                          One extra note about old school managers and loosing all their hard work over the years

                                          Manager points ranking was also 'ignoring' a big part of ALL old school managers hard work 😉

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