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  • Wenger WiseW Wenger Wise

    @SpecialOne said:

    There will never be a perfect system that please all users

    ...so we decided to create a system that almost everyone will hate

    there was also a lot of cheating with old ranking, but that didn't ended up in such a fast climb in rankings which make it difficult to spot them, now with 4 slots adding together, it's easier to spot them and they will be caught/punished faster.

    ladies and gentlemen, i want to introduce you to @фаркоп_1, Russia top-1 since the beginning of spring
    if you wish, you can check the style of his play
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    On the technical side, old ranking system is becoming way too heavy for engines with the increase of number of users (keep in mind that every user have up to 4 entries on MP ranking system)

    it's 2021... can anyone believe in this?
    and my favorite:

    Just give it some time and you'll find out that medals will be more balanced and according to the manager level/skills

    the winner of the strongest CIS league received a negative bonus according to its results 🙂
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    playing against a manager with a much stronger lineup, the system considers such a balance of points to be fair
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    maybe I'm wrong, but having the status of admin and forum moderator, one of your missions is to convey a message from the community to the developers
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    Based on the all-time low rating message, have you decided that everything is ok? I think you are useless to the community, but only contribute to the transformation of a good game (which is an important part of the lives of thousands of people around the world) into another casual shit from the playmarket. Bon Appetit.

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    @wenger-wise This is the case, the game has become boring with the classification of medals

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    • wakil iscoW wakil isco

      @wenger-wise This is the case, the game has become boring with the classification of medals

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      I do not know what to add I have already said everything, or passed on the information and examples by the staff of my country ... It was however so simple to limit the ranking of medals to a single account and not to the 4, and to count that the open championships ....

      8 years of the game going up in smoke .... more fun ... thank you

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      • timilic7T timilic7

        I do not know what to add I have already said everything, or passed on the information and examples by the staff of my country ... It was however so simple to limit the ranking of medals to a single account and not to the 4, and to count that the open championships ....

        8 years of the game going up in smoke .... more fun ... thank you

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        #234

        @timilic7 Now the coaches will cut the game because of the non-existent justice and the game just wants to make money

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        • wakil iscoW wakil isco

          @timilic7 Now the coaches will cut the game because of the non-existent justice and the game just wants to make money

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          @wakil-isco No need to even spend money ... 4 closed championships, against the computer, all the time .. No recruitments no friends no training camp ..... So no need to even give up money

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          • timilic7T timilic7

            @wakil-isco No need to even spend money ... 4 closed championships, against the computer, all the time .. No recruitments no friends no training camp ..... So no need to even give up money

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            #236

            @timilic7 But what is the goal of the game against a computer and not playing against experienced coaches? Is this because of a stupid, ignorant arrangement that has no benefit?

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            • wakil iscoW wakil isco

              @timilic7 But what is the goal of the game against a computer and not playing against experienced coaches? Is this because of a stupid, ignorant arrangement that has no benefit?

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              #237

              @wakil-isco No interest, but in any case that no longer allows me to be at the top of the ranking while playing osm duels with my crew or championships against a good manager ... And leaves room at the top representing the eh we likes to the majority of average players ...
              Who have a division and a ranking above mine in 6 months

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              • timilic7T timilic7

                @wakil-isco No interest, but in any case that no longer allows me to be at the top of the ranking while playing osm duels with my crew or championships against a good manager ... And leaves room at the top representing the eh we likes to the majority of average players ...
                Who have a division and a ranking above mine in 6 months

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                @timilic7 Unfortunately, this is the reality. Now we will see what will happen when the training points are deducted, and whether the medal system will be modified

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                • wakil iscoW wakil isco

                  @timilic7 Unfortunately, this is the reality. Now we will see what will happen when the training points are deducted, and whether the medal system will be modified

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                  @wakil-isco
                  i like the new medal system, higher ranking is harder to hold on. just the top 100 ranking gives opportunity to play private leagues in order to manipulate your ranking by easy winning your own league cause there is no competition. top 100 manager should forced to play competition tournaments or leagues by osm system randomly once per month and up to 4 slots. 🦿⚽️ so beat the AI …

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                    A suggestion
                    When we are defeated, the medallion points decrease, but this is not so. Isn't it too much to lose more than 1500 medal points, even if we lose 3 times what we earn from the points won against the manager, but you lose more than 10 times the winnings, when we win against a manager, we give us 88 medallion points against the team without a manager. 8 -12 points it's not fair, we can't always play against the manager team so we can win the points we lost

                    S10SUZ

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                      @kloppindakop Sure, it‘s harder to stay on top by higher degressing than progressing. i have level 10 and a loss costs me over 1500 points. you have to play constantly better to rise up and to do this you should get more variable not using just one or two formations. managers who feel better to manipulate their ranking by playing private leagues withoutcompetitioned teams you can not prevent, also when you invest money they have advantage but this is ok cause osm can not live just by advertising.
                      the transfersystem is now harder too, of course not realistic but for gameplay more balanced. survival of the fittest forced managers to adapt their strategy, new rules, new challenge.

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                      • TagovailoaT Tagovailoa

                        @kloppindakop Sure, it‘s harder to stay on top by higher degressing than progressing. i have level 10 and a loss costs me over 1500 points. you have to play constantly better to rise up and to do this you should get more variable not using just one or two formations. managers who feel better to manipulate their ranking by playing private leagues withoutcompetitioned teams you can not prevent, also when you invest money they have advantage but this is ok cause osm can not live just by advertising.
                        the transfersystem is now harder too, of course not realistic but for gameplay more balanced. survival of the fittest forced managers to adapt their strategy, new rules, new challenge.

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                        @tagovailoa said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                        managers who feel better to manipulate their ranking by playing private leagues withoutcompetitioned teams you can not prevent,

                        Yes you can prevent that. You want to play private league? You can, but no manager medals/points for that league. Also a simple fix by giving more value for beating higher ranked managers. A win vs lvl 1 or 2 manager cannot be valued the same as a win vs.lvl 9 or 10 manager. And thos bots that are used in private leagues are mainly always max lvl 5.

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                        • Majstor MattM Majstor Matt

                          @tagovailoa said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                          managers who feel better to manipulate their ranking by playing private leagues withoutcompetitioned teams you can not prevent,

                          Yes you can prevent that. You want to play private league? You can, but no manager medals/points for that league. Also a simple fix by giving more value for beating higher ranked managers. A win vs lvl 1 or 2 manager cannot be valued the same as a win vs.lvl 9 or 10 manager. And thos bots that are used in private leagues are mainly always max lvl 5.

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                          @majstor-matt adapting the AI they can do but then not only for privates leagues. the question is whether managers resigning more rather than step new in when the entire gameplay is harder by AI.

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                            @kloppindakop osm make it already easier by the game consulting guy. everybody has support by tactic forum too, so it‘s not a rocket sciense to earn some medals. maybe they raise the bonus points to enter a top ranking and give newbies some more coins to aim the first task in schedule. i would vote for a level 11 instead making the medals system easier but anyway i am not in charge.

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                              @SpecialOne Hello

                              Can you explain that the first in a competitive league is more or less -3000 medals when he is first 😂.

                              I think that in my opinion there is a very big problem in your calculation system and that it will have to be reviewed because there is no logic in it or else you have to play a bot league to win some ?

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                              Screenshot_20210609-114758.png

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                                @SpecialOne Hello

                                Can you explain that the first in a competitive league is more or less -3000 medals when he is first 😂.

                                I think that in my opinion there is a very big problem in your calculation system and that it will have to be reviewed because there is no logic in it or else you have to play a bot league to win some ?

                                Screenshot_20210609-114733.png
                                Screenshot_20210609-114746.png
                                Screenshot_20210609-114758.png

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                                @otman347891 said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                                @SpecialOne Hello

                                Can you explain that the first in a competitive league is more or less -3000 medals when he is first 😂.

                                I think that in my opinion there is a very big problem in your calculation system and that it will have to be reviewed because there is no logic in it or else you have to play a bot league to win some ?

                                Screenshot_20210609-114733.png
                                Screenshot_20210609-114746.png
                                Screenshot_20210609-114758.png

                                The last league I played I finished 3rd with a goal 9 playing against all the top crews in CCW. Very strong leagues and good squad builders. Big difference in squad values at the start in these community leagues between goals.

                                I got - 3,855 (minus) medals in it when I finished 😂get hardly any for a win and loads per loss throughout the league…….
                                But these medals are a worthy replacement for manager points😳🤥🤡who thinks these are good a replacement need to go in hard leagues and not chump leagues. Whoevers idea this was is a very bright guy🥴😂

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                                • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                                  @otman347891 said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                                  @SpecialOne Hello

                                  Can you explain that the first in a competitive league is more or less -3000 medals when he is first 😂.

                                  I think that in my opinion there is a very big problem in your calculation system and that it will have to be reviewed because there is no logic in it or else you have to play a bot league to win some ?

                                  Screenshot_20210609-114733.png
                                  Screenshot_20210609-114746.png
                                  Screenshot_20210609-114758.png

                                  The last league I played I finished 3rd with a goal 9 playing against all the top crews in CCW. Very strong leagues and good squad builders. Big difference in squad values at the start in these community leagues between goals.

                                  I got - 3,855 (minus) medals in it when I finished 😂get hardly any for a win and loads per loss throughout the league…….
                                  But these medals are a worthy replacement for manager points😳🤥🤡who thinks these are good a replacement need to go in hard leagues and not chump leagues. Whoevers idea this was is a very bright guy🥴😂

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                                  @jeffro-davies The new ranking system it's really a joke!

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                                  Goal 16... Ranked 4th... Minus 5.725 medals...

                                  🙄

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                                  Crew Cup World Staff Member

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                                  • otman347891O otman347891

                                    @SpecialOne Hello

                                    Can you explain that the first in a competitive league is more or less -3000 medals when he is first 😂.

                                    I think that in my opinion there is a very big problem in your calculation system and that it will have to be reviewed because there is no logic in it or else you have to play a bot league to win some ?

                                    Screenshot_20210609-114733.png
                                    Screenshot_20210609-114746.png
                                    Screenshot_20210609-114758.png

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                                    @otman347891 good exemple !!!!!
                                    @SpecialOne one reaction please about this?

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                                    • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                                      @otman347891 said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                                      @SpecialOne Hello

                                      Can you explain that the first in a competitive league is more or less -3000 medals when he is first 😂.

                                      I think that in my opinion there is a very big problem in your calculation system and that it will have to be reviewed because there is no logic in it or else you have to play a bot league to win some ?

                                      Screenshot_20210609-114733.png
                                      Screenshot_20210609-114746.png
                                      Screenshot_20210609-114758.png

                                      The last league I played I finished 3rd with a goal 9 playing against all the top crews in CCW. Very strong leagues and good squad builders. Big difference in squad values at the start in these community leagues between goals.

                                      I got - 3,855 (minus) medals in it when I finished 😂get hardly any for a win and loads per loss throughout the league…….
                                      But these medals are a worthy replacement for manager points😳🤥🤡who thinks these are good a replacement need to go in hard leagues and not chump leagues. Whoevers idea this was is a very bright guy🥴😂

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                                      #249

                                      @jeffro-davies 🤣😂🤣🤣

                                      😭😭😭😭

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                                      • ruipsc5R ruipsc5

                                        @jeffro-davies The new ranking system it's really a joke!

                                        f5ff53b2-d1b9-4c48-866e-a9846645434c-image.png

                                        Goal 16... Ranked 4th... Minus 5.725 medals...

                                        🙄

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                                        #250

                                        @ruipsc5 wonderful!!!! 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂

                                        😭😭😭😭😭

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                                        • ruipsc5R ruipsc5

                                          @jeffro-davies The new ranking system it's really a joke!

                                          f5ff53b2-d1b9-4c48-866e-a9846645434c-image.png

                                          Goal 16... Ranked 4th... Minus 5.725 medals...

                                          🙄

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                                          #251

                                          @ruipsc5 Problem is that you guys are simply not good enough for OSM standards I guess.. I mean, check this pro player in global top 10. We plebs can only dream such majestic wins and goal differences, we are simply not good enough for this game: 😉

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