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  • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

    @koningco This change on engines was on test until a few days ago, reason why we didn't answered to your question. Users would change their behaviour if they knew it and results of the test would have been influenced.

    Due to the positive results it was implemented yesterday on ALL servers/leagues.

    It's not doable to set restrictions before/after sims, because since we've sims at different times, it will be a complete mess and we'll have to slide transfer windows to late night again...

    My advise is that when users log for the last time before sims, they remove all players that are on line up from TL and on first login after sims, set them on TL again πŸ‘

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    #1236

    @specialone said in Game Updates:

    My advise is that when users log for the last time before sims, they remove all players that are on line up from TL and on first login after sims, set them on TL again

    GB sometimes forgets that most users have 4 teams, it takes some to to remove and add players again every day. For me the old system was better, this new system is less user friendly!

    @SpecialOne can you post more details here, like the minimum time between 2 workers and what the possible transfer times are now (like 7 AM - 11 PM CET)?

    Other managers: please feel free to post your opinion about this game update and possible transfers just minutes before match time.

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    • Koning CoK Koning Co

      @specialone said in Game Updates:

      My advise is that when users log for the last time before sims, they remove all players that are on line up from TL and on first login after sims, set them on TL again

      GB sometimes forgets that most users have 4 teams, it takes some to to remove and add players again every day. For me the old system was better, this new system is less user friendly!

      @SpecialOne can you post more details here, like the minimum time between 2 workers and what the possible transfer times are now (like 7 AM - 11 PM CET)?

      Other managers: please feel free to post your opinion about this game update and possible transfers just minutes before match time.

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      #1237

      @koningco another great move from gb. Now if we want obtaist max impact from transfers, we have to maintain bigger squads. For me its not so bad, only a little more anxiety, but as far as I know, the mobile gaming market in for example Brazil is incredibly developed, and this puts them in an extremely disadvantageous conditions
      but I won't be surprised if they remove the early servers too
      sooner or later it will come to them that the ultimate optimization would be to abandon users in principle

      Just give it some time and you'll find out that medals will be more balanced and according to the manager level/skills.

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      • Wenger WiseW Wenger Wise

        @koningco another great move from gb. Now if we want obtaist max impact from transfers, we have to maintain bigger squads. For me its not so bad, only a little more anxiety, but as far as I know, the mobile gaming market in for example Brazil is incredibly developed, and this puts them in an extremely disadvantageous conditions
        but I won't be surprised if they remove the early servers too
        sooner or later it will come to them that the ultimate optimization would be to abandon users in principle

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        wrote on last edited by Majstor Matt
        #1238

        @wenger-wise Yeah, another brilliant move. I wonder how will competitions work now when league opener is in time zone that is very different to Europe. That will probably mean that European users in that league will have no chance to keep up with transfers...

        Same thing will happen to South American users joining European league opener leagues...

        From my point of view, the logic in all these GB moves is to simply kill all possible competitions and competitive leagues and mantain the game by having noob users that wont leave too soon because game is too hard. Simplification in order to try and keep new users as ling as possible. Sad, really sad.

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        • Majstor MattM Majstor Matt

          @wenger-wise Yeah, another brilliant move. I wonder how will competitions work now when league opener is in time zone that is very different to Europe. That will probably mean that European users in that league will have no chance to keep up with transfers...

          Same thing will happen to South American users joining European league opener leagues...

          From my point of view, the logic in all these GB moves is to simply kill all possible competitions and competitive leagues and mantain the game by having noob users that wont leave too soon because game is too hard. Simplification in order to try and keep new users as ling as possible. Sad, really sad.

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          #1239

          @majstor-matt as i understood american users (USA, Brazil, Argentina...) will always have a weakness in that

          Just give it some time and you'll find out that medals will be more balanced and according to the manager level/skills.

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          • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

            @koningco This change on engines was on test until a few days ago, reason why we didn't answered to your question. Users would change their behaviour if they knew it and results of the test would have been influenced.

            Due to the positive results it was implemented yesterday on ALL servers/leagues.

            It's not doable to set restrictions before/after sims, because since we've sims at different times, it will be a complete mess and we'll have to slide transfer windows to late night again...

            My advise is that when users log for the last time before sims, they remove all players that are on line up from TL and on first login after sims, set them on TL again πŸ‘

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            #1240

            @specialone said in Game Updates:

            My advise is that when users log for the last time before sims, they remove all players that are on line up from TL and on first login after sims, set them on TL again πŸ‘

            Well this isn't good news for users living in Asia. Most users will be asleep and set their teams few hours early before the sim and check their result few hours after especially when they play in European and South american servers. Definitely a disadvantage. Sometimes I wonder why try to fix something which isn't broken when the old system of having fixed time simulations with the 2 hours gap was convenient.

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            • PaniyathP Paniyath

              @specialone said in Game Updates:

              My advise is that when users log for the last time before sims, they remove all players that are on line up from TL and on first login after sims, set them on TL again πŸ‘

              Well this isn't good news for users living in Asia. Most users will be asleep and set their teams few hours early before the sim and check their result few hours after especially when they play in European and South american servers. Definitely a disadvantage. Sometimes I wonder why try to fix something which isn't broken when the old system of having fixed time simulations with the 2 hours gap was convenient.

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              #1241

              @paniyath We've servers with sim times per timezone. So when you're in an Asian server, ALL transfer rounds will happen during daylight in Asia πŸ‘

              "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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              • AlyssaGBA AlyssaGB

                HISTORICAL TOURNAMENT: AFRICA 2008 πŸ†
                Every month we give you the opportunity to play a temporarily available Tournament! This month: Africa 2008.

                In 2008 Egypt won the Africa Tournament for the 6th time by beating Cameroon 1-0 in the final, thanks to a winning goal by Aboutrika!

                Will you manage to win the title with Samuel Eto'o's Cameroon? Or do you pick Michael Essien's Ghana or Yaya TourΓ©'s Ivory Coast?

                Play the temporarily available Africa 2008 Tournament now and win the title!

                CP_Africa2008_REDDIT.png

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                #1242

                @alyssagb said in Game Updates:

                HISTORICAL TOURNAMENT: AFRICA 2008 πŸ†
                Every month we give you the opportunity to play a temporarily available Tournament! This month: Africa 2008.

                In 2008 Egypt won the Africa Tournament for the 6th time by beating Cameroon 1-0 in the final, thanks to a winning goal by Aboutrika!

                Will you manage to win the title with Samuel Eto'o's Cameroon? Or do you pick Michael Essien's Ghana or Yaya TourΓ©'s Ivory Coast?

                Play the temporarily available Africa 2008 Tournament now and win the title!

                CP_Africa2008_REDDIT.png

                Finally, Africa gets some love!❀

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                • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                  @paniyath We've servers with sim times per timezone. So when you're in an Asian server, ALL transfer rounds will happen during daylight in Asia πŸ‘

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                  #1243

                  @specialone
                  True, but If he plays a competitive league for some competition or crew battle then It wont help him. Thats what I was saying up there, and this is major problem for copmpetitive leagues in which players all around the world are playing, and server depends on the league opener's IP, right? πŸ˜•

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                  • Majstor MattM Majstor Matt

                    @specialone
                    True, but If he plays a competitive league for some competition or crew battle then It wont help him. Thats what I was saying up there, and this is major problem for copmpetitive leagues in which players all around the world are playing, and server depends on the league opener's IP, right? πŸ˜•

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1244

                    @majstor-matt True.

                    But we'll get back to same old argument 😞
                    How many users play OSM? How many play special competitions? Who shall we benefit?

                    Battle leagues are set on random servers according with timezone of players taking part, so depending on luck you can be always the benefited one or not or have it balanced....

                    About competitions organised by users that include users from different timezones, you can discuss who'll create league based on it's timezone in a way that things are balanced!

                    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                    • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                      @majstor-matt True.

                      But we'll get back to same old argument 😞
                      How many users play OSM? How many play special competitions? Who shall we benefit?

                      Battle leagues are set on random servers according with timezone of players taking part, so depending on luck you can be always the benefited one or not or have it balanced....

                      About competitions organised by users that include users from different timezones, you can discuss who'll create league based on it's timezone in a way that things are balanced!

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                      #1245

                      @specialone
                      I know.. but Its just sad that every single change goes into same favour.. we old and competitive players rarely get any change that helps us. SO you can understand our frustration a bit 😞

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                      • Majstor MattM Majstor Matt

                        @specialone
                        I know.. but Its just sad that every single change goes into same favour.. we old and competitive players rarely get any change that helps us. SO you can understand our frustration a bit 😞

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                        #1246

                        @majstor-matt You know that I understand, but you also know that I try to be as fair as possible and you know that a lot of things have been made taking into account old and competitive players.

                        Of course that everyone will always ask for more and want everything the way they like, but unfortunately that's not possible.

                        A pretty good example is that you're loving the weekend ahead with this event and I'm pretty sure a lot are cursing me for it πŸ˜‰

                        "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                        • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                          @paniyath We've servers with sim times per timezone. So when you're in an Asian server, ALL transfer rounds will happen during daylight in Asia πŸ‘

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                          #1247

                          @specialone said in Game Updates:

                          @paniyath We've servers with sim times per timezone. So when you're in an Asian server, ALL transfer rounds will happen during daylight in Asia πŸ‘

                          This contradicts with what has been said earlier! This way it should be possible to adjust the possible transfer times to the match simulation time! For example a transfer window between 6 AM and 8 PM (and eventually also between 10 PM and midnight) when match simulation starts at 9 PM .

                          Please respond as soon as possible because we as users don't want transfer workers just minutes before our matches.

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                          • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                            @koningco This change on engines was on test until a few days ago, reason why we didn't answered to your question. Users would change their behaviour if they knew it and results of the test would have been influenced.

                            Due to the positive results it was implemented yesterday on ALL servers/leagues.

                            It's not doable to set restrictions before/after sims, because since we've sims at different times, it will be a complete mess and we'll have to slide transfer windows to late night again...

                            My advise is that when users log for the last time before sims, they remove all players that are on line up from TL and on first login after sims, set them on TL again πŸ‘

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                            #1248

                            @specialone

                            I'm really happy about this new dynamic concerning the selling simulations only occurring during daylight. In some competitive leagues, specially during transfer madness events, it was really crazy. At least, now I know I can sleep peacefully! ahahaha

                            However, the impredictability of the selling simulations isn't cool, because you have to be looking at your phone everytime. I believe all the players agree with me and it's important that you ear the players. It's important for a more balanced life. πŸ™‚

                            Keep up improving the game.

                            Thanks!

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                            • Koning CoK Koning Co

                              @specialone said in Game Updates:

                              @paniyath We've servers with sim times per timezone. So when you're in an Asian server, ALL transfer rounds will happen during daylight in Asia πŸ‘

                              This contradicts with what has been said earlier! This way it should be possible to adjust the possible transfer times to the match simulation time! For example a transfer window between 6 AM and 8 PM (and eventually also between 10 PM and midnight) when match simulation starts at 9 PM .

                              Please respond as soon as possible because we as users don't want transfer workers just minutes before our matches.

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1249

                              @koningco said in Game Updates:

                              @specialone said in Game Updates:

                              @paniyath We've servers with sim times per timezone. So when you're in an Asian server, ALL transfer rounds will happen during daylight in Asia πŸ‘

                              This contradicts with what has been said earlier! This way it should be possible to adjust the possible transfer times to the match simulation time! For example a transfer window between 6 AM and 8 PM (and eventually also between 10 PM and midnight) when match simulation starts at 9 PM .

                              Please respond as soon as possible because we as users don't want transfer workers just minutes before our matches.

                              ????

                              I really don't understand how did you come up to this conclusion.

                              Maybe with this table you may understand it better
                              20dff496-8b1a-46c7-b790-4093764cccbe-image.png

                              I've included more than one simulation start times, because due to the number of servers in some timezones we need to have more than one simulation time.

                              Transfers are a way lighter task, so we can run more servers at same time!

                              "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                              • ruipsc5R ruipsc5

                                @specialone

                                I'm really happy about this new dynamic concerning the selling simulations only occurring during daylight. In some competitive leagues, specially during transfer madness events, it was really crazy. At least, now I know I can sleep peacefully! ahahaha

                                However, the impredictability of the selling simulations isn't cool, because you have to be looking at your phone everytime. I believe all the players agree with me and it's important that you ear the players. It's important for a more balanced life. πŸ™‚

                                Keep up improving the game.

                                Thanks!

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                                #1250

                                @ruipsc5 Glad you can sleep better now πŸ˜‰

                                I understand that you need to keep looking at phone now to be able to compete at same level as other managers, but that's the price you've to pay to be at the Top πŸ˜‰
                                At least now you can sleep πŸ˜„

                                "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                                • ruipsc5R ruipsc5

                                  @specialone

                                  I'm really happy about this new dynamic concerning the selling simulations only occurring during daylight. In some competitive leagues, specially during transfer madness events, it was really crazy. At least, now I know I can sleep peacefully! ahahaha

                                  However, the impredictability of the selling simulations isn't cool, because you have to be looking at your phone everytime. I believe all the players agree with me and it's important that you ear the players. It's important for a more balanced life. πŸ™‚

                                  Keep up improving the game.

                                  Thanks!

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                                  #1251

                                  @ruipsc5 said in Game Updates:

                                  @specialone

                                  However, the impredictability of the selling simulations isn't cool, because you have to be looking at your phone everytime. I believe all the players agree with me and it's important that you ear the players. It's important for a more balanced life. πŸ™‚

                                  Keep up improving the game.

                                  Thanks!

                                  You can always enable notifications from App and you will be able to know within a min of the transfer sims. Problem is that you also get notifications for game time, training, messages and everything you dont need, but oh well, for transfers alone its good πŸ™‚

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                                  • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                                    @koningco said in Game Updates:

                                    @specialone said in Game Updates:

                                    @paniyath We've servers with sim times per timezone. So when you're in an Asian server, ALL transfer rounds will happen during daylight in Asia πŸ‘

                                    This contradicts with what has been said earlier! This way it should be possible to adjust the possible transfer times to the match simulation time! For example a transfer window between 6 AM and 8 PM (and eventually also between 10 PM and midnight) when match simulation starts at 9 PM .

                                    Please respond as soon as possible because we as users don't want transfer workers just minutes before our matches.

                                    ????

                                    I really don't understand how did you come up to this conclusion.

                                    Maybe with this table you may understand it better
                                    20dff496-8b1a-46c7-b790-4093764cccbe-image.png

                                    I've included more than one simulation start times, because due to the number of servers in some timezones we need to have more than one simulation time.

                                    Transfers are a way lighter task, so we can run more servers at same time!

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                                    #1252

                                    @specialone as i understand the main problem that transfer starts at the same time at all servers right now.
                                    i mean that your table ssould contain not K, L and M transfers starts but K, K and K
                                    i draw this conclusion based on the fact that now i have to play in server Elin (GMT below)
                                    Transfers rounds todat:
                                    2:47
                                    4:55
                                    7:09
                                    8:18
                                    11:02
                                    13:11
                                    simulation at 14:16 +
                                    14:48
                                    ??:??

                                    am i right that everything written above can also be called

                                    positive results

                                    If im wrong, please explain me how its going now and what exactly changed.

                                    Just give it some time and you'll find out that medals will be more balanced and according to the manager level/skills.

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                                    • Wenger WiseW Wenger Wise

                                      @specialone as i understand the main problem that transfer starts at the same time at all servers right now.
                                      i mean that your table ssould contain not K, L and M transfers starts but K, K and K
                                      i draw this conclusion based on the fact that now i have to play in server Elin (GMT below)
                                      Transfers rounds todat:
                                      2:47
                                      4:55
                                      7:09
                                      8:18
                                      11:02
                                      13:11
                                      simulation at 14:16 +
                                      14:48
                                      ??:??

                                      am i right that everything written above can also be called

                                      positive results

                                      If im wrong, please explain me how its going now and what exactly changed.

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                                      #1253

                                      @wenger-wise said in Game Updates:

                                      @specialone as i understand the main problem that transfer starts at the same time at all servers right now.

                                      Where did you saw us saying that? Or is this a conclusion you took?

                                      I believe explanation is clear:

                                      • Every group of servers (per timezone) have transfer engines starting at same time but different from other groups.

                                      Taking two of the leagues you're playing in and from today's transfer rounds, I believe that you can easily see it. Just check it correctly and you'll notice a difference πŸ˜‰

                                      "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                                      • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                                        @wenger-wise said in Game Updates:

                                        @specialone as i understand the main problem that transfer starts at the same time at all servers right now.

                                        Where did you saw us saying that? Or is this a conclusion you took?

                                        I believe explanation is clear:

                                        • Every group of servers (per timezone) have transfer engines starting at same time but different from other groups.

                                        Taking two of the leagues you're playing in and from today's transfer rounds, I believe that you can easily see it. Just check it correctly and you'll notice a difference πŸ˜‰

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                                        English Users
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                                        #1254

                                        @specialone

                                        I think we need an official Announcement with explanation about this release. GB has created an Announcement section a few months ago, but they don't use it for important changes like the random transfer times a few months ago and this new update is also released without communication!

                                        In my opinion it should be possible to have 8 workers between 06:00 and 20:00 when match simulation starts at at 21:00 (and 8 workers between 03:00 and 17:00 when simulation starts at at 18:00). I don't understand why OSM chooses for transfer workers during simulation times. I think most users prefer one more nightly transfer worker when a transfer worker during match simulation is the alternative.

                                        Also 6 or 7 workers with a slightly higher selling chance than before is better in my opinion than a transfer worker during match simulation.

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                                        • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                                          @wenger-wise said in Game Updates:

                                          @specialone as i understand the main problem that transfer starts at the same time at all servers right now.

                                          Where did you saw us saying that? Or is this a conclusion you took?

                                          I believe explanation is clear:

                                          • Every group of servers (per timezone) have transfer engines starting at same time but different from other groups.

                                          Taking two of the leagues you're playing in and from today's transfer rounds, I believe that you can easily see it. Just check it correctly and you'll notice a difference πŸ˜‰

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                                          @specialone ok, i understood that transfers start at the same time in each timezone, but obviously its not enough for the reasons mentioned here earlier
                                          i incorrectly formulated the problem
                                          today transfers were an hour before and a few minutes after the simulation, but they can occur a minute before the simulation of the match (GMT)
                                          Screenshot_4.png
                                          is this the

                                          positive results

                                          ?

                                          Just give it some time and you'll find out that medals will be more balanced and according to the manager level/skills.

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