OSM Engine 'stole' me

[Bembelmän]

This game from 4 weeks ago was a completely new experience for me and I would like to share it with you .

I'm not 100% sure what the circumstances were before the game. I hope I remember correctly though.

The teams were about the same strength, the opponent had 6% home bonus due to their stadium, in my team all players were fresh, in the opponent 3 players were dark green. I had every position filled correctly, the opponent had 2 positions not filled correctly, I had the country bonus, my opponent did not.

In addition, my opponent received 2 red cards. Because of that I played 70min....11 vs 10 and 60min....11 vs 9. But lost the game in the end 1:0 .... I think the luck was not on my side .

@JetonT. ..... Can you remember if the conditions were as I described above?

[JetonT.]

@bembelmän yes this is another proof. Im not just complaining about my results because sometimes I get lucky just like in this game. Two red cards and I won. I didn't know I played reckless, I realised next day.

Here's another one. Ccw game, day 5 (before 10-11 days). I was in 3 wins and 1 lost. He was 3 ties 1 win. Both team like equal value, can't remember exactly. What happened? He scores twice with 4 shots.

[Vincent Ado Kompany]

Right topic for my crewmates @Mskrlec and @zenudin_m

[ConfusedGeneral]

Awesome and interesting article. Great things you’ve always shared with us. Thanks. Just continue composing this kind of post.

[The.Answer.]

@specialone said in OSM Engine 'stole' me:

Share with us the stats of a match where you believe you should have won and you ended up being 'stolen' by OSM Engine.

Share with us how much (in percentage) each variable influences the final result.
We know that there is the nationality bonus, the difference in the team values, the positions of the players to be respected, the difference between the values of my players on the wings compared to those of the opponent and many other known and unknown variables. But nobody known what bonus or malus they give.
It could even be all random... stats are not enough!

[A S P E C T nl_NL]

So this happened in a league I play in yesterday, figured Id share an interesting result I saw,




just found it worth sharing in this forum, what a game

[Manchester United AFC]

@a-s-p-e-c-t-nl_nl
Nice A vote for you sir

But why did you post it in this topic ??

[A S P E C T nl_NL]

@manchester-united-afc The topic is called "OSM Engine 'stole' me" that's just an example of a game that falls under that category just saying freak results happen its become part and parcel of osm no point crying or laughing about it anymore its more of a random element nowadays in my view at least

[Manchester United AFC]

@a-s-p-e-c-t-nl_nl ok sorry!!

[A S P E C T nl_NL]

@a-s-p-e-c-t-nl_nl just like how red cards are being dished out like crazy of late I honestly donno and understand much anymore about it, also just saying I kind of understand @The-Answer point in what he asked above could we get some more info on this at least for those of us that put in extra effort on the game cos of late we all just feel its random, away games for example let me not get started on that lol

[The.Answer.]

@a-s-p-e-c-t-nl_nl said in OSM Engine 'stole' me:

@a-s-p-e-c-t-nl_nl just like how red cards are being dished out like crazy of late I honestly donno and understand much anymore about it, also just saying I kind of understand @The-Answer point in what he asked above could we get some more info on this at least for those of us that put in extra effort on the game cos of late we all just feel its random, away games for example let me not get started on that lol

@SpecialOne is more busy checking people's forum signature settings than giving us this kind of informations

[FeelStrikeX]

Well, I'm going to take advantage of the fact that the tournament is still at the beginning and I'm not making sad figures yet to leave my game today

I'm the home team

In addition to having a weaker team, having a striker who spent the entire game playing Rugby instead of Football also complicates my life a bit.

[MenagerBL]

Here I have some interesting result...happened few years ago...

[MenagerBL]

Another crazy match between my friends...
Red card. 3 goals scored with 10 men. From 3-0 to 3-7 in the end.

[Bembelmän]

@menagerbl... That's both hard . I will never complain about my games again ....crazy!

[JetonT.]

SpecialOne created this topic but didn't answer anymore to any of us. If admin doesn't interact with us and informs us what the hell is going on with the simulation system, what are we doing here? This 'steals' are happening every day. Where is the point of playing a game when there's no meritocracy? It feels we are playing loto here.

This one happened in my last game in enc league before 40 minutes. Many more like this are happening every day, everywhere, in every league, in every battle.

[SpecialOne]

@jetont said in OSM Engine 'stole' me:

SpecialOne created this topic but didn't answer anymore to any of us.

This is not a topic to report issues with simulations...

This is a topic for everone that feels the need to express his frustration because he wasn't lucky, because someone was better than him even with a weaker team and a way defensive tactic managed to beat him

Idea of this topic was to gather managers talking about the reasons that could lead to a result completelly different of the expected.

Taking as example the match that @MenagerBL posted earlier today he doesn't says anything about squads neither the way he played... but I would assume that he had quite good attackers (3 shots/3 goals), his opponent would probably played really defensive and slow tempo, lot of passing to have such an huge possession.... etc, etc...
So, that wouldn't be a steal, but one tactic really effective from his side!

[JetonT.]

@specialone okay then. Was hoping something would change in simulation system and this steals wouldn't happen often as we are experiencing. In one of my latest battles I dominated 9 times and reached only 9 points...Looks like we have to deal with this loto simulation or just quit. I'm sure meritocracy is lower than the luck in simulation.

[Bembelmän]

I'm not going to complain, just want to share with you my last battle game from tonight .

I was Hajduk, my opponent Dynamo. My team had 11 strength points more (all strengths of the respective 11 players added)... So we were almost equal in strength....1110 vs 1099.

I played at home with stadium level 3. I also had the country bonus with 7 players from one country in the starting eleven. My opponent played without bonus. And I had all 11 positions exactly lined up, my opponent 10. All my players were fit, at the opponent 4 or 5 players not anymore and at least already green.

I lost the game 0:1. I 433A, my opponent 523A. However, I was clearly better in the stats. 14:3 shots, 12:4 corners, 60:40 possession. And the worst player of all 22 players together scored the winning goal .

Was probably just bad luck probably .... Or?

[FeelStrikeX]

One more game now in the battle

So gives challenge...