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  • Zé TigresaZ Zé Tigresa

    Again, it's the second time this week 🙃
    Draw 1-1

    Screenshot_2022-05-29-19-47-11-449_com.gamebasics.osm.jpg

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    @zé-tigresa 😲 🙄 What is your team

    Losing is not a reason for defeat, but a reason to learn from it

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    • Zé TigresaZ Zé Tigresa

      Again, it's the second time this week 🙃
      Draw 1-1

      Screenshot_2022-05-29-19-47-11-449_com.gamebasics.osm.jpg

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      @zé-tigresa I won 7_0

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      Losing is not a reason for defeat, but a reason to learn from it

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      • İbrahim Fuchsİ İbrahim Fuchs

        @zé-tigresa I won 7_0

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        @i̇brahim-fuchs nice

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          @i̇brahim-fuchs nice

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          @precious-fc what exactly? 7:0 against CPU? 🙂

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          • MarkusRW5M MarkusRW5

            @precious-fc what exactly? 7:0 against CPU? 🙂

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            @markusrw5 👍 🙄

            Losing is not a reason for defeat, but a reason to learn from it

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            • MarkusRW5M MarkusRW5

              @precious-fc what exactly? 7:0 against CPU? 🙂

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              @markusrw5 said in OSM Engine 'stole' me:

              @precious-fc what exactly? 7:0 against CPU? 🙂

              🤦

              Losing is not a reason for defeat, but a reason to learn from it

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                @i̇brahim-fuchs nice

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                @precious-fc you are the best 😁 😍

                Losing is not a reason for defeat, but a reason to learn from it

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                  It's clear that OSM rewards amateur coaches even if they deserve to be defeated
                  The difference in strength in my favor was 95, and the 83 opponent who scored the goal was 69 Although my goalkeeper strength is 95.
                  All we take from that should improve the offensive line

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                  • Ahmed Khaled10A Ahmed Khaled10

                    It's clear that OSM rewards amateur coaches even if they deserve to be defeated
                    The difference in strength in my favor was 95, and the 83 opponent who scored the goal was 69 Although my goalkeeper strength is 95.
                    All we take from that should improve the offensive line

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                    @ahmḛɗ-khalḛɗ10 Dude, I think this was more so due to tactics. Your opponent was using 4-2-3-1 against your 4-3-3 A.
                    4-2-3-1 is quite good for defense, as it forms 3 triangles on the pitch. With a wide midfield, it would be difficult for your 3 forwards to break through it to score. Also, if your midfielders push forward and your opponent counter-attacks, that would create more good chances to score. Your goalkeeper might've been really good- but that doesn't mean that it will always stop the goals from weaker forwards. One more thing, if the goal was scored in the second leg, then it might also be due to your tired players, cause it's known that playing against 4-2-3-1 is tiring and that's why clubs like PSG and Barcelona adopt this formation.

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                    • AstrobladeA Astroblade

                      @ahmḛɗ-khalḛɗ10 Dude, I think this was more so due to tactics. Your opponent was using 4-2-3-1 against your 4-3-3 A.
                      4-2-3-1 is quite good for defense, as it forms 3 triangles on the pitch. With a wide midfield, it would be difficult for your 3 forwards to break through it to score. Also, if your midfielders push forward and your opponent counter-attacks, that would create more good chances to score. Your goalkeeper might've been really good- but that doesn't mean that it will always stop the goals from weaker forwards. One more thing, if the goal was scored in the second leg, then it might also be due to your tired players, cause it's known that playing against 4-2-3-1 is tiring and that's why clubs like PSG and Barcelona adopt this formation.

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                      @astroblade said in OSM Engine 'stole' me:

                      4-2-3-1 is quite good for defense, as it forms 3 triangles on the pitch. With a wide midfield, it would be difficult for your 3 forwards to break through it to score. Also, if your midfielders push forward and your opponent counter-attacks, that would create more good chances to score. Your goalkeeper might've been really good- but that doesn't mean that it will always stop the goals from weaker forwards. One more thing, if the goal was scored in the second leg, then it might also be due to your tired players, cause it's known that playing against 4-2-3-1 is tiring and that's why clubs like PSG and Barcelona adopt this formation.

                      I know this my friend, and usually I don't play offensive line against 4231, but the difference in strength was so great that the opponent put the line-up 10 hours before the match and doesn't care if he wins or loses

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                      • Ahmed Khaled10A Ahmed Khaled10

                        @astroblade said in OSM Engine 'stole' me:

                        4-2-3-1 is quite good for defense, as it forms 3 triangles on the pitch. With a wide midfield, it would be difficult for your 3 forwards to break through it to score. Also, if your midfielders push forward and your opponent counter-attacks, that would create more good chances to score. Your goalkeeper might've been really good- but that doesn't mean that it will always stop the goals from weaker forwards. One more thing, if the goal was scored in the second leg, then it might also be due to your tired players, cause it's known that playing against 4-2-3-1 is tiring and that's why clubs like PSG and Barcelona adopt this formation.

                        I know this my friend, and usually I don't play offensive line against 4231, but the difference in strength was so great that the opponent put the line-up 10 hours before the match and doesn't care if he wins or loses

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                        @ahmḛɗ-khalḛɗ10 I also noticed that your opponent had tackling set to normal/aggressive while you had it to careful. That also affected the result. I think your opponent had pressing a little high, so the tackling might be normal.

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                          Good evening.

                          You guys must do something about the game simulator.
                          Ridiculous situations keep happening over and over again and it simply kills or drive and motivation to play.

                          When the opponent invests time in the game, build a strong squad and is better tactically than you, all you have to do is keep trying to be better.

                          But when something like what I'm about to show you happen... it just shows how random this game is and illogical.

                          Yesterday:

                          52e40c1b-de20-4ef3-8d2a-7405146794e1-image.png

                          Easy win having a slight better team.

                          Today:
                          My team improved from 84 to 94,or so, and my opponent almost didn't use the transfer madness.
                          The opponents team has an overall of 81.
                          He only had 10 players on the pitch.
                          A striker played as midfielder.
                          He only has 4 defenders, one of them awith an overall of 63.
                          I use the same tactic that has beaten stronger 451s in the past at home and away.

                          The result:

                          f18c5c66-24bc-4298-aaff-c307a52b7ee3-image.png

                          I'm a very experienced player, a leader of a Top 20 crew, I invest time playing other games in the offer wall, I invest money when I don't have enough BC's to be competitive on hard leagues where I am representing my crew and I am really finding it difficult to accept this kind of situations.

                          You must start to protect the players that invest their time.
                          You keep on protecting the players that forget to line up and get a draw and sometimes a win having 50 or 60 overall players.
                          STOP doing that! Just STOP, please!
                          I don't know what you guys are doing in order to improve the game, but it's not enough.
                          I'm really disappointed with you guys and it makes me think whether I should or shouldn't continue my time with OSM.

                          It's just sad.

                          Best regards

                          Rui

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                          • ruipsc5R ruipsc5

                            Good evening.

                            You guys must do something about the game simulator.
                            Ridiculous situations keep happening over and over again and it simply kills or drive and motivation to play.

                            When the opponent invests time in the game, build a strong squad and is better tactically than you, all you have to do is keep trying to be better.

                            But when something like what I'm about to show you happen... it just shows how random this game is and illogical.

                            Yesterday:

                            52e40c1b-de20-4ef3-8d2a-7405146794e1-image.png

                            Easy win having a slight better team.

                            Today:
                            My team improved from 84 to 94,or so, and my opponent almost didn't use the transfer madness.
                            The opponents team has an overall of 81.
                            He only had 10 players on the pitch.
                            A striker played as midfielder.
                            He only has 4 defenders, one of them awith an overall of 63.
                            I use the same tactic that has beaten stronger 451s in the past at home and away.

                            The result:

                            f18c5c66-24bc-4298-aaff-c307a52b7ee3-image.png

                            I'm a very experienced player, a leader of a Top 20 crew, I invest time playing other games in the offer wall, I invest money when I don't have enough BC's to be competitive on hard leagues where I am representing my crew and I am really finding it difficult to accept this kind of situations.

                            You must start to protect the players that invest their time.
                            You keep on protecting the players that forget to line up and get a draw and sometimes a win having 50 or 60 overall players.
                            STOP doing that! Just STOP, please!
                            I don't know what you guys are doing in order to improve the game, but it's not enough.
                            I'm really disappointed with you guys and it makes me think whether I should or shouldn't continue my time with OSM.

                            It's just sad.

                            Best regards

                            Rui

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                            #49

                            @ruipsc5 I totally agree with you.
                            This has been the situation with me for 3 months now.
                            I can't "honestly" beat anyone away, no matter how stronger or weaker I am than my opponents. It happens that I win when the opponent gets a red card, or when the engine "takes pity"

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                              Hey Rui

                              This is why I was ready to quit and this is why Andy quit 😛 so you are experiencing this too now 😛

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                              • Vincent Ado KompanyV Vincent Ado Kompany

                                @ruipsc5 I totally agree with you.
                                This has been the situation with me for 3 months now.
                                I can't "honestly" beat anyone away, no matter how stronger or weaker I am than my opponents. It happens that I win when the opponent gets a red card, or when the engine "takes pity"

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                                @ado-hackovic Thanks, Ado!

                                It's like.. Imagine you are the manager and you select a team.
                                And then one of the player says: "Gaffer, there is a player missing..."
                                "No problem! Hey, you - appoints to a random player - today you play as midfielder!"
                                And the player replies: "But... but... I'm a goalkeeper!"
                                And the manager continues: "No problem! Trust yourself!".
                                And other player says: "But the Central Defender is a kid from the youth who is 12 years old and we don't have any subs..."

                                "No problem! We will be ok!".

                                And then this team wins.

                                This is OSM nowadays...

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                                • JetonT.J JetonT.

                                  Hey Rui

                                  This is why I was ready to quit and this is why Andy quit 😛 so you are experiencing this too now 😛

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                                  @jetont Totally, Jet! So unreal... The engine is totally crazy. It makes no sense at all... 😞

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                                    @ruipsc5 what tactics do you use to 451 against stronger teams? Say please

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                                    • T tunikm3

                                      @ruipsc5 what tactics do you use to 451 against stronger teams? Say please

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                                      @tunikm3 Hey my friend! We can speak in private. Just send me a message in the chat. Thanks!

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                                      • AstrobladeA Astroblade

                                        @ahmḛɗ-khalḛɗ10 Dude, I think this was more so due to tactics. Your opponent was using 4-2-3-1 against your 4-3-3 A.
                                        4-2-3-1 is quite good for defense, as it forms 3 triangles on the pitch. With a wide midfield, it would be difficult for your 3 forwards to break through it to score. Also, if your midfielders push forward and your opponent counter-attacks, that would create more good chances to score. Your goalkeeper might've been really good- but that doesn't mean that it will always stop the goals from weaker forwards. One more thing, if the goal was scored in the second leg, then it might also be due to your tired players, cause it's known that playing against 4-2-3-1 is tiring and that's why clubs like PSG and Barcelona adopt this formation.

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                                        @astroblade I don't agree with you!
                                        I normally win against 4231 when I'm better, using a balanced 433A or B WP.
                                        If you play really offensive you can lose. But if you play in a balance way, normally you win. You can have a draw, max, but you don't lose.

                                        My issue with OSM atm is just the way the engine protects the inactive or irresponsible players. It's completly stupid.
                                        When you are way better, but the opponent prepares a defensive tactic and prepares the game properly, being online, with all the 11 players on the pitch and so on... you can lose.
                                        But when your opponent plays with 10 players, having no subs, plays with 50 or 60 overall players and that player with 50 or 60 overall scores the winning goal... It's just ridiculous, stupid and a total lack of respect for the manager who loses.

                                        It's time for the game to be better. This simply cannot continue!

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                                        • ruipsc5R ruipsc5

                                          @astroblade I don't agree with you!
                                          I normally win against 4231 when I'm better, using a balanced 433A or B WP.
                                          If you play really offensive you can lose. But if you play in a balance way, normally you win. You can have a draw, max, but you don't lose.

                                          My issue with OSM atm is just the way the engine protects the inactive or irresponsible players. It's completly stupid.
                                          When you are way better, but the opponent prepares a defensive tactic and prepares the game properly, being online, with all the 11 players on the pitch and so on... you can lose.
                                          But when your opponent plays with 10 players, having no subs, plays with 50 or 60 overall players and that player with 50 or 60 overall scores the winning goal... It's just ridiculous, stupid and a total lack of respect for the manager who loses.

                                          It's time for the game to be better. This simply cannot continue!

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                                          @ruipsc5
                                          I agree with you. Your explanation was good. This happens to me a lot as I said, the game rewards a coach who shows some stupidity in tactics and formations and It's not fair at all

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