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  • JOPIE1313_NLJ JOPIE1313_NL

    Wij hebben 2 cpu teams in de poule. Wordt daarop gecontroleerd of er teams zijn die tegen ze oefenen?

    Gizmo69_NLG Offline
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    @jopie1313_nl
    pfff, zou ik me niet aantrekken, of je nu tegen je partner speelt of tegen een cpu.
    Denk niet dat ze daar naar gaan kijken.

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    • A touch of magic_NLA Offline
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      Spelen tegen een CPU team is verboden en dus strafpunten.

      Tegen je partner is niet verboden.

      En ze kunnen dit wel degelijk nakijken.

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      • JOPIE1313_NLJ Offline
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        ik weet dat ze t kunnen maar doen ze het ook of moet er een melding komen van iemand dat ie t niet vertrouwt? verder geen issue hoor (hopelijk 🙂 )

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        • JOPIE1313_NLJ JOPIE1313_NL

          Wij hebben 2 cpu teams in de poule. Wordt daarop gecontroleerd of er teams zijn die tegen ze oefenen?

          The best manager in the world_NLT Offline
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          The best manager in the world_NL
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          #164

          @jopie1313_nl ik ga er vanuit dat iedereen gewoon de regels goed heeft doorgelezen ^_^

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          • Davemx_NLD Offline
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            @harry-hirsch_nl said in LFS-Cup Discussietopic:

            @the-best-manager-in-the-world_nl

            Can you check it or not? alt text

            It is possible for him if he wants but i really don't think its necessary

            Winners never quit, Quitters never win

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              0_1519067863135_tussenstand round 2.jpg

              Winners never quit, Quitters never win

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              • MaxMorlock_NLM Offline
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                I just want to say that in 8 days I was only able to sell 26 players via the transfer list, even though I always had 4 players on the list. The average sale in my league is 40-50 players over this period! So you can not build a competitive team. Thanks Engine, thanks OSM! So it was not possible for me to get a good base team.
                If anyone in this competition has made less than 26 transfers, please report, then I would like to pass the fool's cap. So that's not a fair competition!Bild Text

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                • MaxMorlock_NLM MaxMorlock_NL

                  I just want to say that in 8 days I was only able to sell 26 players via the transfer list, even though I always had 4 players on the list. The average sale in my league is 40-50 players over this period! So you can not build a competitive team. Thanks Engine, thanks OSM! So it was not possible for me to get a good base team.
                  If anyone in this competition has made less than 26 transfers, please report, then I would like to pass the fool's cap. So that's not a fair competition!Bild Text

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                  @maxmorlock_nl said in LFS-Cup Discussietopic:

                  I just want to say that in 8 days I was only able to sell 26 players via the transfer list, even though I always had 4 players on the list. The average sale in my league is 40-50 players over this period! So you can not build a competitive team. Thanks Engine, thanks OSM! So it was not possible for me to get a good base team.
                  If anyone in this competition has made less than 26 transfers, please report, then I would like to pass the fool's cap. So that's not a fair competition!Bild Text

                  After this message, I take a look at you team and notice something.
                  you have 2 players on the TL that are to expensive, so you take a gamble there.
                  this time they did not sell so you got stuck.

                  the second thing about this competition is that there are some of the best managers in it, who can build better then almost anybody in the world, therefor it is not a shame that they are better builders.

                  and next we are just begin the league 2 good sellings days can turn the tables around.

                  I am sorry if this sound a little bit cocky but just wanted to let you know that this is going to be a though league.

                  I wanted to wish you goodluck and hope you will sell some players tomorrow.

                  :100

                  Winners never quit, Quitters never win

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                  • Davemx_NLD Offline
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                    0_1519155547786_stnad r2.jpg

                    Winners never quit, Quitters never win

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                    • Davemx_NLD Davemx_NL

                      @maxmorlock_nl said in LFS-Cup Discussietopic:

                      I just want to say that in 8 days I was only able to sell 26 players via the transfer list, even though I always had 4 players on the list. The average sale in my league is 40-50 players over this period! So you can not build a competitive team. Thanks Engine, thanks OSM! So it was not possible for me to get a good base team.
                      If anyone in this competition has made less than 26 transfers, please report, then I would like to pass the fool's cap. So that's not a fair competition!Bild Text

                      After this message, I take a look at you team and notice something.
                      you have 2 players on the TL that are to expensive, so you take a gamble there.
                      this time they did not sell so you got stuck.

                      the second thing about this competition is that there are some of the best managers in it, who can build better then almost anybody in the world, therefor it is not a shame that they are better builders.

                      and next we are just begin the league 2 good sellings days can turn the tables around.

                      I am sorry if this sound a little bit cocky but just wanted to let you know that this is going to be a though league.

                      I wanted to wish you goodluck and hope you will sell some players tomorrow.

                      :100

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                      @dave-jansen_nl
                      First, many thanks for the good wishes, and I believe you, that you are serious.
                      But some things are not right:
                      For days, players in the price category, as I've set them, are sold. And I always had 4 players on the transfer list, at times only low-value players. And I play long enough to make good teams; but if you do not sell, you can not buy new players. My scout has been back for 3 days, but I can not trigger it because I have no money!
                      Even though I will be able to sell more players in the next few days, I can not catch up with the classement of managers. With 25 to 30 transfers more, I would certainly have a competitive team that has nothing to do with playing with the best managers in the world
                      I think there are teams in each league that are better off with the engine (just remember the discussion with Dandulk and Galway from the first round) and teams that are disadvantaged. And my team definitely belongs to the disadvantaged.
                      In addition, no one has reported that has made less than my 26 transfers.
                      But thanks again for your sympathy!
                      0_1519161320997_Transferliste.JPG

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                      • MaxMorlock_NLM MaxMorlock_NL

                        @dave-jansen_nl
                        First, many thanks for the good wishes, and I believe you, that you are serious.
                        But some things are not right:
                        For days, players in the price category, as I've set them, are sold. And I always had 4 players on the transfer list, at times only low-value players. And I play long enough to make good teams; but if you do not sell, you can not buy new players. My scout has been back for 3 days, but I can not trigger it because I have no money!
                        Even though I will be able to sell more players in the next few days, I can not catch up with the classement of managers. With 25 to 30 transfers more, I would certainly have a competitive team that has nothing to do with playing with the best managers in the world
                        I think there are teams in each league that are better off with the engine (just remember the discussion with Dandulk and Galway from the first round) and teams that are disadvantaged. And my team definitely belongs to the disadvantaged.
                        In addition, no one has reported that has made less than my 26 transfers.
                        But thanks again for your sympathy!
                        0_1519161320997_Transferliste.JPG

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                        @maxmorlock_nl Just analysed some transfers in your league. It's true that you sold the least amount of players (28 in total up to now, if I'm right). If I analyse @Dave-Jansen_NL his transfers, he only sold 36 players.

                        I believe that young players sell quicker than older players (tere are probably many more factors). Just looking at the prices of players you bought, it looks like you only have a few players from the scout. Reselling players you buy from the scout will give you the biggest profit (and it's the most expensive for your real bank account due to the amount of bosscoins you have to pay for it). The profit you made for buying and selling the same players you made a profit of around 45 million. Compared to @Dave-Jansen_NL (once again), he made a profit of over 85 million. Almost twice as much. And yes, that's a difference you will see in the teams.

                        It's partly bad luck, but it's also because you're not building your team like the others are doing.

                        alt text alt text

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                          Up to my post I could only sell 26 players, at 15.00 still 2 more, that's right; I know that I make the most profit from the fact that I have been buying and selling players through my scout. Since five days I've been selling a few players worth 3-5 million, and I'm not getting that much money can trigger my scout.
                          The manager Dave Jansen, as much as I appreciate him, is not the benchmark for me:
                          But the manager of Gangwon, because he is the first:
                          He has made a total of 45 transfers, alone 8 of them worth between 17 million and 22 million and several transfers between 10-20 million.
                          And I sell a few players for minimum amounts within 5 days: And as I said, there were always 4 players on the transfer list:
                          And that's exactly what makes the difference between 1st place and 12th place.

                          He has 45 transfers with 8 * 20 million sums and is first; I with 28 transfers of 5-10 million: I am last:

                          His current team value is 188 million, mine with 94 million exactly the half
                          It's such a simple game!

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                          • MaxMorlock_NLM MaxMorlock_NL

                            @dave-jansen_nl
                            First, many thanks for the good wishes, and I believe you, that you are serious.
                            But some things are not right:
                            For days, players in the price category, as I've set them, are sold. And I always had 4 players on the transfer list, at times only low-value players. And I play long enough to make good teams; but if you do not sell, you can not buy new players. My scout has been back for 3 days, but I can not trigger it because I have no money!
                            Even though I will be able to sell more players in the next few days, I can not catch up with the classement of managers. With 25 to 30 transfers more, I would certainly have a competitive team that has nothing to do with playing with the best managers in the world
                            I think there are teams in each league that are better off with the engine (just remember the discussion with Dandulk and Galway from the first round) and teams that are disadvantaged. And my team definitely belongs to the disadvantaged.
                            In addition, no one has reported that has made less than my 26 transfers.
                            But thanks again for your sympathy!
                            0_1519161320997_Transferliste.JPG

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                            @maxmorlock_nl I agree with you that its clear that some teams have an adventage with the engine.
                            In my league im only 10th out of the 12 teams looking at the worth of my team. I have no idea how some managers already have a worth that is double of mine. The thing i can see happening is people scouting every day and using up 45 coins each day to buy the scouted players and then sell them very expensive. I don't pay money for the coins so i can't do that. Its very clear that people who do, have a big advantage here in this sort of competition.

                            Kan de moderator van onze competitie ook eens een tussenstandje posten?

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                            • Gilles Brunelos_NLG Gilles Brunelos_NL

                              @maxmorlock_nl I agree with you that its clear that some teams have an adventage with the engine.
                              In my league im only 10th out of the 12 teams looking at the worth of my team. I have no idea how some managers already have a worth that is double of mine. The thing i can see happening is people scouting every day and using up 45 coins each day to buy the scouted players and then sell them very expensive. I don't pay money for the coins so i can't do that. Its very clear that people who do, have a big advantage here in this sort of competition.

                              Kan de moderator van onze competitie ook eens een tussenstandje posten?

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                              @gilles-brunelos_nl said in LFS-Cup Discussietopic:

                              @maxmorlock_nl I agree with you that its clear that some teams have an adventage with the engine.
                              In my league im only 10th out of the 12 teams looking at the worth of my team. I have no idea how some managers already have a worth that is double of mine. The thing i can see happening is people scouting every day and using up 45 coins each day to buy the scouted players and then sell them very expensive. I don't pay money for the coins so i can't do that. Its very clear that people who do, have a big advantage here in this sort of competition.

                              Kan de moderator van onze competitie ook eens een tussenstandje posten?

                              Welcome to OSM!

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                              • The best manager in the world_NLT Offline
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                                SHEET LFS-CUP: https://ufile.io/554bu

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                                  Thanks @Harry Hirsch_NL for your clear words; also a thank you to @Gilles Brunelos_NL for the openness. I'm the same, I do not pay for coins, I do not have an app that I can use to earn coins, I just have the 4 coins a day the engine gives me. So I have to be very frugal , too and I can not afford 45 Coins a day. And if @ Dammy111_NL writes that his teambuilding is based on his good tactics and wins even with a low-value squad, that's nonsense! In a tournament with such good managers, you might win games with a low-value squad but not a tournament. Then please tell me why you have the second strongest squad with 194 million if you trust only in your good tactics. With such a squad of course you win against the team of Sangju Sangmu with 48 million. In a league of very good managers everybody can assume that everyone has a good tactic! Decisive is then only the high squad value. And everyone knows that! And everyone here, if he wants to get ahead in this tournament, has to invest a lot of coins, whether he likes it or not! I renounce it!
                                  When Harry asked me if I would take part in this tournament with him, I said: A tournament without training camps with timers turned off sounds good. I thought, finally, a tournament where you can participate with fun. I used to enjoy leagues with crazy guys in this Dutch version of OSM before the time of 3.0, when there was still a leagues chat. The game still had a lot of charm and spirit. That was also the reason why I enjoyed playing beside the world version here with a lot of fun. After switching to 3.0, the focus is now to invest as many coins, and the charm and spirit were suddenly gone. So I totally agree with @Memphis United_NL when he says: Welcome to OSM; this is a completely different world than before 3.0! I wanted a tournament with cool and crazy managers, as I know from earlier times; is obviously just a wishful dream!
                                  But nevertheless: I wish all participants a nice and successful tournament!

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                                    @dammy111_nl said in LFS-Cup Discussietopic:

                                    As an example, some teams have the same value than you but still are in top 6."

                                    Let's talk about after the end of the saison, which taem with a lower squad value will reach the top 6; and plaese don't forget to make a screenshot of that team! Bild Text

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                                      @dammy111_nl said in LFS-Cup Discussietopic:

                                      However, I think that a good manager can handle it in highs as in lows 👍

                                      And why do you hide behind your 194 million squad and do not play like the manager of Sangju Sangmu with 48 million who plays in your league? Either because you are not a good manager or because you know that what you wrote is nonsense! I beleave so, the latter is the reason! Bild Text

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                                        @the-best-manager-in-the-world_nl said in LFS-Cup Discussietopic:

                                        SHEET LFS-CUP: https://ufile.io/554bu

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                                          Ik doe het morgenochtend wel even voor groep 5.

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