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OSM Events: How to improve? Discussion of current ones!

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  • Majstor MattM Offline
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    Majstor Matt
    wrote on last edited by SUPERNOVA 8
    #6

    Pure and simple: If you need to use coins to achieve something then It's not for the BEST MANAGERS! It is sad that GB is doing this scam competitions for wealthy users who usually waste coins and make ridiculous teams in this competitions. But its always nice to see that even though they have tons of players rated over 120 they still lose games to managers with squad players rated around 85. THOSE MANAGERS ARE THE REAL MVP's and competitions should be built around them.

    Lets say: Win with biggest squad difference event, something like that, then, only then we can talk about fair and right competitions for BEST MANAGERS ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    • GalipCaliskan1907G GalipCaliskan1907

      @thebestmanagernl Don't be sorry to write in a bold way. As long as we have respect and don't insult each other feel free to write your concerns. You may not think so right now, but we are listening and do appreciate the feedback we get.

      These temporary events are also new for us, we are trying new things and continue to improve on the feedback managers like you give us. In that regard, I would like to thank you and @sergiu-il for letting us know what you think. I will be sure to pass it on.
      For example; the rise in rewards (now 10x (!) more than the last event, and rewards for places 4-10) is one of the things we changed based on the feedback from the previous event.

      I also want to emphasise that these events are completely optional. Nobody is forced to compete or spend BossCoins. If you don't feel like you have a chance to win, which you are free to feel, don't compete. Just play OSM like you normally would, and if you're really that good, you can even join the top10 without actively competing.

      But everything aside calling it a scam goes too far in my opinion. We are not out here looking for ways to scam our managers. The rules are clear and transparent, it's optional, you don't have to spend BossCoins to compete and the prize is nothing to joke about.

      Again, thanks for the feedback on these events. We will continue to improve them based on your (and others) messages.

      Majstor MattM Offline
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      Majstor Matt
      wrote on last edited by
      #7

      @galipcaliskan1907 Of course It's not pure scam. But putting trhe words "only best managers are asked to compete" Is kinda scamish, you must admit. I understand marketing and everything, but dont use words "best managers" for this lottery competitions, please ๐Ÿ˜‰

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      • Dhrubo IID Offline
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        Dhrubo II
        wrote on last edited by
        #8

        Lol agreed. It should be more like 'Only wealthy managers are asked to compete'. ๐Ÿ˜‚

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        • jeffro daviesJ Offline
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          jeffro davies
          wrote on last edited by jeffro davies
          #9

          6.3billion after one day. A 184 rated defender (worth 1.1billion alone) in his team๐Ÿ˜ณheโ€™s in twice, 6th with 2.8billion squad value! Wonder how many coins heโ€™s spent speeding timers up to get that squad values๐Ÿ˜‚

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          • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

            6.3billion after one day. A 184 rated defender (worth 1.1billion alone) in his team๐Ÿ˜ณheโ€™s in twice, 6th with 2.8billion squad value! Wonder how many coins heโ€™s spent speeding timers up to get that squad values๐Ÿ˜‚

            EdgarEAME Offline
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            EdgarEAM
            Spanish Users
            wrote on last edited by
            #10

            @jeffro-davies Impossible to believe, we need picture! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜

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            • EdgarEAME EdgarEAM

              @jeffro-davies Impossible to believe, we need picture! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜

              jeffro daviesJ Offline
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              jeffro davies
              wrote on last edited by
              #11

              @edgaream put his manager name in your friends, make sure youโ€™re logged in on one of your slots. Then you can look for yourself, go on his profile, then slots and click on โ€œinter Milanโ€ Iโ€™ve no reason to lie๐Ÿ˜‚Iโ€™m on my phone, screen shots are hard lol

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              • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                6.3billion after one day. A 184 rated defender (worth 1.1billion alone) in his team๐Ÿ˜ณheโ€™s in twice, 6th with 2.8billion squad value! Wonder how many coins heโ€™s spent speeding timers up to get that squad values๐Ÿ˜‚

                DatalcarD Offline
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                Datalcar
                Spanish Users
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                #12

                @jeffro-davies Definitely is insane...

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                • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                  @edgaream put his manager name in your friends, make sure youโ€™re logged in on one of your slots. Then you can look for yourself, go on his profile, then slots and click on โ€œinter Milanโ€ Iโ€™ve no reason to lie๐Ÿ˜‚Iโ€™m on my phone, screen shots are hard lol

                  DatalcarD Offline
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                  Datalcar
                  Spanish Users
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  @jeffro-davies said in Promotions/Campaigns:

                  put his manager name in your friends, make sure youโ€™re logged in on one of your slots. Then you can look for yourself, go on his profile, then slots and click on โ€œinter Milanโ€ Iโ€™ve no reason to lieIโ€™m on my phone, screen shots are hard

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                  Money, money!!!!! Madness!!

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                  • Hafti AbiH Offline
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                    Hafti Abi
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    Can we also expect any events where the smartest and most efficient players are able to win something instead of those guys who are willing to spend thousands of BCs and still end up losing against others? Would be nice to see ๐Ÿ™‚

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                    • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                      6.3billion after one day. A 184 rated defender (worth 1.1billion alone) in his team๐Ÿ˜ณheโ€™s in twice, 6th with 2.8billion squad value! Wonder how many coins heโ€™s spent speeding timers up to get that squad values๐Ÿ˜‚

                      DatalcarD Offline
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                      Datalcar
                      Spanish Users
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                      #15

                      @jeffro-davies said in Promotions/Campaigns:

                      6.3billion after one day. A 184 rated defender (worth 1.1billion alone) in his team๐Ÿ˜ณheโ€™s in twice, 6th with 2.8billion squad value! Wonder how many coins heโ€™s spent speeding timers up to get that squad values๐Ÿ˜‚

                      Only Skriniar 184, is greater in value than any of my current teams, jeje.

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                      • MenagerBLM Offline
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                        #16

                        What's the name of the manager? ๐Ÿ˜†

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                        • Majstor MattM Offline
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                          Majstor Matt
                          wrote on last edited by SpecialOne
                          #17

                          Wow, he is so GOOD! Must be the best manager ever. ******************** Text removed *************

                          Dont even try to put some competitions like :

                          • winning the most matches in certain period
                          • winning most Mp's
                          • scoring most goals
                          • conceeding least goals

                          Yeah, thats just not for the "best managers" ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                          • Majstor MattM Majstor Matt

                            Wow, he is so GOOD! Must be the best manager ever. ******************** Text removed *************

                            Dont even try to put some competitions like :

                            • winning the most matches in certain period
                            • winning most Mp's
                            • scoring most goals
                            • conceeding least goals

                            Yeah, thats just not for the "best managers" ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                            King_Jamiu_10
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #18

                            @majstor-matt Mate,
                            Do remember that as much as we can post our opinions we are to respect forum rules and shouldn't make insulting posts.

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                            • Majstor MattM Offline
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                              Majstor Matt
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #19

                              That's right, ban anyone who even tries to give some suggestion about competitions that would be fair for everyone. I dont see how I insulted anyone there. Clown is a funny person, persona who makes other laugh. I dont see how is that an insult or a bad thing.

                              But as I saId, I understand that due to marketing reasons you guys have to do things like this.

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                              ๐Ÿฅ‰ OSM Nations Cup 2021 - 3rd place (Croatia)
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                              • Casual1948C Offline
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                                #20

                                I was thinking that 'putting the fist in your mouth' strategy are applying just inside romanian community, but seems that exceeds the borders.

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                                • GalipCaliskan1907G GalipCaliskan1907

                                  @thebestmanagernl Don't be sorry to write in a bold way. As long as we have respect and don't insult each other feel free to write your concerns. You may not think so right now, but we are listening and do appreciate the feedback we get.

                                  These temporary events are also new for us, we are trying new things and continue to improve on the feedback managers like you give us. In that regard, I would like to thank you and @sergiu-il for letting us know what you think. I will be sure to pass it on.
                                  For example; the rise in rewards (now 10x (!) more than the last event, and rewards for places 4-10) is one of the things we changed based on the feedback from the previous event.

                                  I also want to emphasise that these events are completely optional. Nobody is forced to compete or spend BossCoins. If you don't feel like you have a chance to win, which you are free to feel, don't compete. Just play OSM like you normally would, and if you're really that good, you can even join the top10 without actively competing.

                                  But everything aside calling it a scam goes too far in my opinion. We are not out here looking for ways to scam our managers. The rules are clear and transparent, it's optional, you don't have to spend BossCoins to compete and the prize is nothing to joke about.

                                  Again, thanks for the feedback on these events. We will continue to improve them based on your (and others) messages.

                                  SpecialOneS Offline
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                                  SpecialOne
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #21

                                  @galipcaliskan1907 said in Promotions/Campaigns:

                                  @thebestmanagernl Don't be sorry to write in a bold way. As long as we have respect and don't insult each other feel free to write your concerns. You may not think so right now, but we are listening and do appreciate the feedback we get.

                                  These temporary events are also new for us, we are trying new things and continue to improve on the feedback managers like you give us. In that regard, I would like to thank you and @sergiu-il for letting us know what you think. I will be sure to pass it on.
                                  For example; the rise in rewards (now 10x (!) more than the last event, and rewards for places 4-10) is one of the things we changed based on the feedback from the previous event.

                                  I also want to emphasise that these events are completely optional. Nobody is forced to compete or spend BossCoins. If you don't feel like you have a chance to win, which you are free to feel, don't compete. Just play OSM like you normally would, and if you're really that good, you can even join the top10 without actively competing.

                                  But everything aside calling it a scam goes too far in my opinion. We are not out here looking for ways to scam our managers. The rules are clear and transparent, it's optional, you don't have to spend BossCoins to compete and the prize is nothing to joke about.

                                  Again, thanks for the feedback on these events. We will continue to improve them based on your (and others) messages.

                                  I would like to point you all to this post from my colleague.

                                  Feel free to discuss and point the things you don't agree on the event. We're still starting and learning while doing it.

                                  Discuss doesn't mean that you should be blind and assume things. It's impossible to build a squad to that point on a single day, no matter how much money you put on the game. Both leagues are already way ahead on the schedule (one on week 36 and the other on week 27), so this user was building up this squad for quite some time.

                                  Also commenting something doesn't mean you're allowed to insult other users (doing that will make you join Majstor Matt on his holidays) and also trying to create riots on forums will take you on same way!

                                  @Casual1948 and @Maryka7 if you guys are trying to do same thing you did recently on Romanian forums/community, this will lead you guys to a straight lock of the accounts! Just take your time to go out, chill down and think carefully before post again.
                                  Take also some time to read forum rules and even OSM terms. Keep in mind that there's freedom of speach as long as you observe the rules of the space where you're speaking (writing).

                                  "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                                  • EdgarEAME Offline
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                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    OSM need still improve their events. Its clear, there are a lot people that is a bit obfuscated by that. I some of them already write in this thread. Ur managers, ur people are talking OSM!

                                    I remember events in the past. Referring only to awards, before was like derision to all users those awards. Osm improve that ranking and number of Boss Coins awarded., like said @GalipCaliskan1907 . But I think and have the sensation that a lot people here want a more FAIR, ENGAGING award system. For example why only 10? ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ U say that have millons and millons of users, and u only reward in a event to only TOP10? Think about urself (admin, moderators, OSM).

                                    CHanging that to Top 100 will be more reasonable, and more engaging event. Because u will be not have chances to get into top 10, but get in top100? Is a lot more probable.

                                    Try to make a number of Boss Coins awarded reasonable.

                                    Like said @Majstor-Matt why U dont make also events like that?

                                    Dont even try to put some competitions like :

                                    winning the most matches in certain period
                                    winning most Mp's
                                    scoring most goals
                                    conceeding least goals
                                    

                                    WHy NOT? I never see a event like that.

                                    Thats all. Listen to people OSM, not fool us like kids : )
                                    Its not the first riot concerning to events, if OSM dont fix, improve this will happen again.๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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                                    • EdgarEAME EdgarEAM

                                      OSM need still improve their events. Its clear, there are a lot people that is a bit obfuscated by that. I some of them already write in this thread. Ur managers, ur people are talking OSM!

                                      I remember events in the past. Referring only to awards, before was like derision to all users those awards. Osm improve that ranking and number of Boss Coins awarded., like said @GalipCaliskan1907 . But I think and have the sensation that a lot people here want a more FAIR, ENGAGING award system. For example why only 10? ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ U say that have millons and millons of users, and u only reward in a event to only TOP10? Think about urself (admin, moderators, OSM).

                                      CHanging that to Top 100 will be more reasonable, and more engaging event. Because u will be not have chances to get into top 10, but get in top100? Is a lot more probable.

                                      Try to make a number of Boss Coins awarded reasonable.

                                      Like said @Majstor-Matt why U dont make also events like that?

                                      Dont even try to put some competitions like :

                                      winning the most matches in certain period
                                      winning most Mp's
                                      scoring most goals
                                      conceeding least goals
                                      

                                      WHy NOT? I never see a event like that.

                                      Thats all. Listen to people OSM, not fool us like kids : )
                                      Its not the first riot concerning to events, if OSM dont fix, improve this will happen again.๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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                                      @edgaream said in Promotions/Campaigns:

                                      Like said @Majstor-Matt why U dont make also events like that?

                                      Dont even try to put some competitions like :

                                      winning the most matches in certain period
                                      winning most Mp's
                                      scoring most goals
                                      conceeding least goals
                                      

                                      WHy NOT? I never see a event like that.

                                      Thats all. Listen to people OSM, not fool us like kids : )
                                      Its not the first riot concerning to events, if OSM dont fix, improve this will happen again.๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ

                                      This won't happen because someone can actually win events like most goals scored just by being good without using thousands of BCs ๐Ÿค 

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                                      • SpecialOneS Offline
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                                        Let me just give you some notes for you guys to think and maybe you guys can come up with a really good idea for us to make FAIR events.

                                        At least I think that's what we all aim for. Events to reward those that help OSM to grow, correct?

                                        Top 100 ยป Do you know how many users cheat their way up to win events or any other thing? How easy you think that the job to catch cheaters is?

                                        All the other options you provided for events ยป I could use exactly same argument, but I'll use a different one. Get more MPs on a league? That depends only on the manager? And what about score most goals? It depends only on a manager?
                                        So how fair it is for managers if your result on the event depends on type of managers you get on your league?

                                        If you guys have a good and Fair idea for an event, please share it with us. If not... well, if you don't like the ones we've, you're not forced to take part on the events. It's up to you to decide if you join it or not!

                                        "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                                        • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                                          Let me just give you some notes for you guys to think and maybe you guys can come up with a really good idea for us to make FAIR events.

                                          At least I think that's what we all aim for. Events to reward those that help OSM to grow, correct?

                                          Top 100 ยป Do you know how many users cheat their way up to win events or any other thing? How easy you think that the job to catch cheaters is?

                                          All the other options you provided for events ยป I could use exactly same argument, but I'll use a different one. Get more MPs on a league? That depends only on the manager? And what about score most goals? It depends only on a manager?
                                          So how fair it is for managers if your result on the event depends on type of managers you get on your league?

                                          If you guys have a good and Fair idea for an event, please share it with us. If not... well, if you don't like the ones we've, you're not forced to take part on the events. It's up to you to decide if you join it or not!

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                                          wrote on last edited by EdgarEAM
                                          #25

                                          @specialone REally?

                                          I dont know how many user cheat in events.
                                          I dont how easy is the job of catch cheaters.

                                          @specialone said in Promotions/Campaigns:

                                          All the other options you provided for events ยป I could use exactly same argument, but I'll use a different one. Get more MPs on a league? That depends only on the manager? And what about score most goals? It depends only on a manager?

                                          ๐Ÿคจ๐Ÿ™ƒ

                                          What? I understand u now. Are u saying like managers dont purchase a lot Boss Coin (OSM win less) so, there is not point to make all of suggested events? like most goals? more MP? :l Really? ofc that OSM will win much less, but for getting a good place in that events u neeed building a squad quickly u need scouter, train fast, friendlies, in all of those situation managers spend BC, OSM WIN.

                                          @specialone said in Promotions/Campaigns:

                                          So how fair it is for managers if your result on the event depends on type of managers you get on your league?

                                          Im surprised. DO u want that managers solve ur problems (admin, osm). Well, I will do that. EASY. U will make some kind of factor, that consider things like

                                          at least 70% managers/teams active in that league
                                          add factor difficult (see this https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2837113-golden-shoe-2018-19-top-goalscorers-in-europe-latest-standings-on-may-20) that is a example for something like goals

                                          Ofc It will be not MOst goals, insted it should be TOP GOALSCORER MANAGER

                                          That factor will be for elmost everything, MP, goals, conceding, unbeatable, always win. (One funny called Manchester Manager , the team with consecutive draws ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜œ)

                                          That factor will be decided by a comparison of managers points, more managers points in the average of the league, more HIGHER the FACTOR.With that u also ensure less probability of cheaters. U will think that this only benefit to TOP RANKED managers and that is right. But u can adjust that factor for give more opportunities to people that arent in top rankings.

                                          Summary,

                                          Active leagues with at least 70% of team occupied and manager active.
                                          Factor difficult (see the link)

                                          And we can enjoy and love to OSM : )

                                          wait, Something else

                                          About cheaters, we can report them the traditional ways without problem, email or though the game

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