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  • giouzzzG Offline
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    giouzzz
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    @Serjio-T. said in Tugas Trophy 16/17:

    @mrtgll33 said in Tugas Trophy 16/17:

    @Serjio-T. Hi Sergio,

    Would you like to play with the semi final The Best of Turkey ? Without losing more time!

    no

    It will be very interesting to know the reasons of this denial:

    • It's a parsimony and it's a pity for you spending coins for Tugas? - i hope it's not a problem and you can make a deal with BoT not to buy players for 3 prep days or to play without TC's
    • You think that BoT is not deserved to play Semifinal against you? - That's why i think that your crew is not deserved to play Final against Alliance or Akincilar. You must respect all opponents to be respected yourself.
    • You are going to play a Friendly Battle with BoT soon? - so, why you can't combine it? You can play a battle with BoT now.
    • You want to make rest and happy that happens with Tugas?

    Please check the right reason from the list above or give us your own reason please.

    Regards

    Nobody is unbeatable

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      We will be in frienly battle soon. We can combine this as a semi-final battle.

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        #209

        @Serjio-T. Hi Sergio, This idea is not ethical at all :thinking: But, no need to talk more, good games!

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          Sosyokrat
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          #210
                                                  Tugas Trophy 16/17 (Semifinal)
          

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          A challenging process. :slight_smile: Good Luck..! #AKIN :flag_tr:

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                                                    Tugas Trophy 16/17 (Semifinal)
            

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            A challenging process. :slight_smile: Good Luck..! #AKIN :flag_tr:

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            giouzzz
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            #211

            @Sosyokrat

            Thank you for monitoring our battle with tables, mate. I wish Good Luck to your crew and i hope you can win us, because we don't want to play Final with undeserved crew. But it will be very difficult to do, so you need to gather all your power for it and give us all you can and impossible! I believe you can! 👍

            But if sh*t happens and Alliance will win this Semifinal, i ask to organizers allow us to make a replacement of Finalist and give Akincilar the right to play in Final instead of us. It's a Friendly Tournament, not official, so i think the organizers can accept our request. We are ready to renounce the title of champion or silver medallist, because we are here just because of playing battles with great crews, not for titles. The situation when one crew goes directly to the Final without playing a half battles especially in Semifinal is nonsense for us, and it's not fair to the other crews, who spend their time, power, coins to deserve such place of honor. To make it fair for all it must be made changes into the Regulation of the tournament with replacements of the eliminated crew.

            My crew is waiting for the decision of the organizers about our request.

            Best regards to all crews who deserved it by playing battles!

            Nobody is unbeatable

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            • giouzzzG giouzzz

              @Sosyokrat

              Thank you for monitoring our battle with tables, mate. I wish Good Luck to your crew and i hope you can win us, because we don't want to play Final with undeserved crew. But it will be very difficult to do, so you need to gather all your power for it and give us all you can and impossible! I believe you can! 👍

              But if sh*t happens and Alliance will win this Semifinal, i ask to organizers allow us to make a replacement of Finalist and give Akincilar the right to play in Final instead of us. It's a Friendly Tournament, not official, so i think the organizers can accept our request. We are ready to renounce the title of champion or silver medallist, because we are here just because of playing battles with great crews, not for titles. The situation when one crew goes directly to the Final without playing a half battles especially in Semifinal is nonsense for us, and it's not fair to the other crews, who spend their time, power, coins to deserve such place of honor. To make it fair for all it must be made changes into the Regulation of the tournament with replacements of the eliminated crew.

              My crew is waiting for the decision of the organizers about our request.

              Best regards to all crews who deserved it by playing battles!

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              @giouzzz

              Hi giouzzz!

              You strongly agree with you. 👍 There is an unfair situation. I hope the organizers of the tournament can find a solution as soon as possible. :slight_smile:

              In the meantime, as Akıncılar we believe in ourselves full. We will win this war and show the power of the Turks. 💪 :flag_tr:

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              • giouzzzG giouzzz

                @Sosyokrat

                Thank you for monitoring our battle with tables, mate. I wish Good Luck to your crew and i hope you can win us, because we don't want to play Final with undeserved crew. But it will be very difficult to do, so you need to gather all your power for it and give us all you can and impossible! I believe you can! 👍

                But if sh*t happens and Alliance will win this Semifinal, i ask to organizers allow us to make a replacement of Finalist and give Akincilar the right to play in Final instead of us. It's a Friendly Tournament, not official, so i think the organizers can accept our request. We are ready to renounce the title of champion or silver medallist, because we are here just because of playing battles with great crews, not for titles. The situation when one crew goes directly to the Final without playing a half battles especially in Semifinal is nonsense for us, and it's not fair to the other crews, who spend their time, power, coins to deserve such place of honor. To make it fair for all it must be made changes into the Regulation of the tournament with replacements of the eliminated crew.

                My crew is waiting for the decision of the organizers about our request.

                Best regards to all crews who deserved it by playing battles!

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                @giouzzz You and your crew are certainly a respectful crew and you deserve respect until the end :peace:

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                  @Serjio-T. Hi Sergio, This idea is not ethical at all :thinking: But, no need to talk more, good games!

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                  @mrtgll33 Hahahaaaa!!! Murat you are a very funny man, about what ethics you are talking about my friend??? I just want to remind you about your decision that you made in WCC round 2 regarding one of the strongest Russian crews "THE 1ST", 2 managers of that crew we banned without any proper reason and later on were found not guilty, so the ban was removed. THE 1 ST have sent one manager to replace one of those 2 banned managers, but the captain of opposition crew didn't accept the request before the simulation, he had 4 hours to do that, Lusitanos captain was online but he intentionally didn't accept request because he was hoping for penalties, it was clear because right after the simulation he has sent penalties to members of THE 1ST. It was against all fair play and ethics it is clear as the sky. Managers from THE 1ST were at a loss and one of them who was not a captain without consulting other members accepted WO defeat. What Lusitanos did and your decision were not ethical, THE 1 ST gave you all screens with clear evidence of what has happened. If you were ethical, you would allow to schedule a rematch between those crews where THE 1ST would simply destroy Lusitanos crew. They were leading 400+ points when this bans have appeared. YOUR DECISION WAS 100% UNETHICAL!!! And now they don't have any chance to qualify for knockout stage.

                  Regarding our battle now. AKINCILAR who are now screaming that we are undeserved finalists have lost 1st battle to Italians Do it Better crew. Later after 1st round Italians Do it Better decided to leave Tugas Trophy, organizers decided to give AKINCILAR 1000-0 win even though they have lost to Italians Do it Better. We didn't even say anything, because we respect organizers and we respect fair play. We have won the rest battles in our group with huge differences, we were simply superior. We qualified to semifinal, and we got very strong opponent Tugas, we were preparing for that battle for some time cause we know that Tugas are one of the strongest crews in the world at the moment. We were waiting for very hard and fair battle, but then I guess something similar with what happened to THE 1ST crew happened to Tugas and unfortunately they had to accept WO, that means we are advancing to the final. We didn't break any rules and regulations, we have deserved this final by all rights, we are not scared of any crew in the final, we will play the crew who will win in the other semifinal. We respect all crews and we are demanding respect from other crews too. But what we see is that Best of Turkey still can't accept their elimination and trying to fill the gap, even though they have not qualified from their group. AKINCILAR who most probably would be out of this semifinal if Italians Do it Better crew stayed in the Tugas Trophy are yelling that we Born in the USSR (a crew who beat all others in the group) does not deserve a place in the final. Lastly I want to say we are ready to play any crew in the FINAL, whether it is The Alliance or AKINCILAR, provided they are not scared to play with us. Thanks all for your attention.

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                  • Batyr MyadysoyunovB Batyr Myadysoyunov

                    @mrtgll33 Hahahaaaa!!! Murat you are a very funny man, about what ethics you are talking about my friend??? I just want to remind you about your decision that you made in WCC round 2 regarding one of the strongest Russian crews "THE 1ST", 2 managers of that crew we banned without any proper reason and later on were found not guilty, so the ban was removed. THE 1 ST have sent one manager to replace one of those 2 banned managers, but the captain of opposition crew didn't accept the request before the simulation, he had 4 hours to do that, Lusitanos captain was online but he intentionally didn't accept request because he was hoping for penalties, it was clear because right after the simulation he has sent penalties to members of THE 1ST. It was against all fair play and ethics it is clear as the sky. Managers from THE 1ST were at a loss and one of them who was not a captain without consulting other members accepted WO defeat. What Lusitanos did and your decision were not ethical, THE 1 ST gave you all screens with clear evidence of what has happened. If you were ethical, you would allow to schedule a rematch between those crews where THE 1ST would simply destroy Lusitanos crew. They were leading 400+ points when this bans have appeared. YOUR DECISION WAS 100% UNETHICAL!!! And now they don't have any chance to qualify for knockout stage.

                    Regarding our battle now. AKINCILAR who are now screaming that we are undeserved finalists have lost 1st battle to Italians Do it Better crew. Later after 1st round Italians Do it Better decided to leave Tugas Trophy, organizers decided to give AKINCILAR 1000-0 win even though they have lost to Italians Do it Better. We didn't even say anything, because we respect organizers and we respect fair play. We have won the rest battles in our group with huge differences, we were simply superior. We qualified to semifinal, and we got very strong opponent Tugas, we were preparing for that battle for some time cause we know that Tugas are one of the strongest crews in the world at the moment. We were waiting for very hard and fair battle, but then I guess something similar with what happened to THE 1ST crew happened to Tugas and unfortunately they had to accept WO, that means we are advancing to the final. We didn't break any rules and regulations, we have deserved this final by all rights, we are not scared of any crew in the final, we will play the crew who will win in the other semifinal. We respect all crews and we are demanding respect from other crews too. But what we see is that Best of Turkey still can't accept their elimination and trying to fill the gap, even though they have not qualified from their group. AKINCILAR who most probably would be out of this semifinal if Italians Do it Better crew stayed in the Tugas Trophy are yelling that we Born in the USSR (a crew who beat all others in the group) does not deserve a place in the final. Lastly I want to say we are ready to play any crew in the FINAL, whether it is The Alliance or AKINCILAR, provided they are not scared to play with us. Thanks all for your attention.

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                    #215

                    @Batyr-Myadysoyunov hahaha, I will not read your message for a very long time, @Serjio-T. if you are really good, why did you pull the friendly battle? I invite you to a real brave battle when you want.

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                      @Serjio-T. We are always ready!!!
                      But get earlier.

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                      • Batyr MyadysoyunovB Batyr Myadysoyunov

                        @mrtgll33 Hahahaaaa!!! Murat you are a very funny man, about what ethics you are talking about my friend??? I just want to remind you about your decision that you made in WCC round 2 regarding one of the strongest Russian crews "THE 1ST", 2 managers of that crew we banned without any proper reason and later on were found not guilty, so the ban was removed. THE 1 ST have sent one manager to replace one of those 2 banned managers, but the captain of opposition crew didn't accept the request before the simulation, he had 4 hours to do that, Lusitanos captain was online but he intentionally didn't accept request because he was hoping for penalties, it was clear because right after the simulation he has sent penalties to members of THE 1ST. It was against all fair play and ethics it is clear as the sky. Managers from THE 1ST were at a loss and one of them who was not a captain without consulting other members accepted WO defeat. What Lusitanos did and your decision were not ethical, THE 1 ST gave you all screens with clear evidence of what has happened. If you were ethical, you would allow to schedule a rematch between those crews where THE 1ST would simply destroy Lusitanos crew. They were leading 400+ points when this bans have appeared. YOUR DECISION WAS 100% UNETHICAL!!! And now they don't have any chance to qualify for knockout stage.

                        Regarding our battle now. AKINCILAR who are now screaming that we are undeserved finalists have lost 1st battle to Italians Do it Better crew. Later after 1st round Italians Do it Better decided to leave Tugas Trophy, organizers decided to give AKINCILAR 1000-0 win even though they have lost to Italians Do it Better. We didn't even say anything, because we respect organizers and we respect fair play. We have won the rest battles in our group with huge differences, we were simply superior. We qualified to semifinal, and we got very strong opponent Tugas, we were preparing for that battle for some time cause we know that Tugas are one of the strongest crews in the world at the moment. We were waiting for very hard and fair battle, but then I guess something similar with what happened to THE 1ST crew happened to Tugas and unfortunately they had to accept WO, that means we are advancing to the final. We didn't break any rules and regulations, we have deserved this final by all rights, we are not scared of any crew in the final, we will play the crew who will win in the other semifinal. We respect all crews and we are demanding respect from other crews too. But what we see is that Best of Turkey still can't accept their elimination and trying to fill the gap, even though they have not qualified from their group. AKINCILAR who most probably would be out of this semifinal if Italians Do it Better crew stayed in the Tugas Trophy are yelling that we Born in the USSR (a crew who beat all others in the group) does not deserve a place in the final. Lastly I want to say we are ready to play any crew in the FINAL, whether it is The Alliance or AKINCILAR, provided they are not scared to play with us. Thanks all for your attention.

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                        @Batyr-Myadysoyunov
                        Exactly bro, I agree 1000%. Today I wanted to write a similar post but I don't had time, I was bussy. Now I don't need. Excellent post. 👏

                        Right now, Murat is the last person in the entire world who has to speak about ethics. I can not believe he write such a rubbish.
                        Our situation (THE 1ST crew) was even worse! Tugas managers were suspended.
                        In our case, we were suspended (without reason) + there was luck of respect from our opponents! And? Murat made a shameful decision even if he wasn't the main organizator!
                        Now he speaks about ethics??? LOL 😄

                        Good luck USSR! You deserved the trophy.
                        If other crews don't want play in the final it's their problem. They have to deal with their business in own battles and not to look at other battles.
                        Best regards.

                        OSM World Champion 2019&2020/WNT Winner 17/18
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                          @Batyr-Myadysoyunov
                          Exactly bro, I agree 1000%. Today I wanted to write a similar post but I don't had time, I was bussy. Now I don't need. Excellent post. 👏

                          Right now, Murat is the last person in the entire world who has to speak about ethics. I can not believe he write such a rubbish.
                          Our situation (THE 1ST crew) was even worse! Tugas managers were suspended.
                          In our case, we were suspended (without reason) + there was luck of respect from our opponents! And? Murat made a shameful decision even if he wasn't the main organizator!
                          Now he speaks about ethics??? LOL 😄

                          Good luck USSR! You deserved the trophy.
                          If other crews don't want play in the final it's their problem. They have to deal with their business in own battles and not to look at other battles.
                          Best regards.

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                          @MenagerBL I really wondered where you really stayed 🙂 I do not want to talk more, Born USSR may be a good team but it is not a team that has a reputation for us ✌

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                            @MenagerBL I really wondered where you really stayed 🙂 I do not want to talk more, Born USSR may be a good team but it is not a team that has a reputation for us ✌

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                            @mrtgll33 Man listen!!!

                            1. We really don't need your reputation!!!
                            2. You can't accept defeat, you lost to The Alliance and Tugas (You don't deserve a place in the semifinals)!!! You are just 3rd place. That's why we don't want to play with a team who has 0% rights to play in the semifinal with us.
                            3. AKINCILAR lost to Italians Do it Better and were destroyed by us!!!! AKINCILAR also don't deserve to play in the semifinals. But The Alliance still okay playing with the fake semifinalist and we also don't have anything against it.
                            4. The Alliance play semifinal with team which didn't deserve to play in it and they refuse to play us ( a crew that deserves final by all means ) in the final if they can pass AKINCILAR!!!! WHY??? Because they are scared of us!!!
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                              I see you are talking ironically.
                              That speaks about you and shows how much you are/were interested about our case. (although you were some kind of organizator/arbiter) Funny. 😄

                              USSR ''don't have reputation for you'' but before 1h you are begging for a battle vs them...
                              ahahahaha 😄

                              Remember, KARMA IS A B*TCH!
                              In the life you always pay for your deeds in the past!
                              That's happening to you right now.

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                                @Batyr-Myadysoyunov @Serjio-T Okay mate calm down, the biggest Born USSR 😉 ✌

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                                  @giouzzz @Serjio-T @will337 After this time, this tournament has no meaning for us. There are rules in the official tournaments and normally second crew should continues to tournament. If this rule doesn't apply here, we wish best to The Alliance at final.
                                  And we're glad for The Alliance's attitude to this situation.

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                                    After discussing the current situation with the captain of Akincilar when both crews didn't want to play Final no matter who will win from us, and after the decision of organizers to leave the situation with the Finalist who won his Semifinal by WO, we decided to stop our current battle and agree to a draw. After that we'll leave the Tournament.

                                    I am very sorry the organizers for all that situation. Of course I got excited with the decision and it was made in the feelings when i saw that 1st Finalist already did it without a lot of costs that we already have and will have in Semifinal. It's not fair to us and other crews who played all battles. But i said a word and i must keep this word. No way back.

                                    Thank you Tugas for the accepting us to this Event! We played very good battles and receive here good experience! Thanks to all participants! In this awkward situation with tugas members i don't know if it will be possible to organize next editions, but you can always count on us in participation, only with one condition - to be fair and make equal conditions to all participant.

                                    Also i want to Congratulate USSR with the 1st main title of the good Tournament with such strong teams! No matter what i think it was deserved or not it will stay in your shelf with trophies, you want it more than just playing.

                                    Serjio T and Batyr, guys, of course you have a strong crew, we all seen your results in the World Crew Arena, and maybe some crews really scares to play against you, but it's not about us. We never ran from the strong opponents. And it's easy to check who scared or not. I officially challenge you a Friendly battle on 12 January, as soon my team mates will leave the current battle league against Akincilar. And please, don't find a bunch of reasons why you can't accept our invitation 😉

                                    Regards!

                                    Nobody is unbeatable

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                                      @Serjio-T.

                                      We will discuss all details in PM, let's don't flood this topic with other kind of discussions.

                                      Nobody is unbeatable

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                                        @will337 Just saw your post mate ( about USSR ) . It was edited. :ok_hand_tone2:

                                        “Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
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                                          Good afeternoon! I'm back, but still dismayed by what happened. So, I'm just going to speak you a little about what happened here. I did not like the positions taken by AKINCILAR and The Alliance. As will337 said, The Born of USSR were not to blame for what happened. What happened to the USSR would have happened to any other case the draw put them in group A. I was very disappointed. If the tournament were yours, and the Tugas were in AKINCILAR's place or The Alliance, we would never leave the tournament. When we confirm participation we are assuming a responsibility. But sadly, AKINCILAR and The Alliance did not take on this responsibility. I'm sad about this attitude. Anyway, think about what you did and put yourself in our shoes. 😞

                                          Regardless, I want to say that the tournament had great battles and thank everyone for their participation. Thus, I finish the 4th Edition of the Tugas Trophy. Born in the USSR will be the winners of this edition.

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                                          Can close the topic, please. :thumbsup_tone2:

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