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  • Vincent Ado KompanyV Vincent Ado Kompany

    I have to praise @SpecialOne. After all the criticism that was directed after the "famous" poll on the crew battle, where most managers did not receive notification about it, he posted this poll publicly on the forum and on social networks.

    Well done ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

    Hans Dieter Hansi FlickH Offline
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    Hans Dieter Hansi Flick
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    #14

    @Ado-Hackovic said in Community Survey:

    I have to praise @SpecialOne. After all the criticism that was directed after the "famous" poll on the crew battle, where most managers did not receive notification about it, he posted this poll publicly on the forum and on social networks.

    Well done ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

    This is really great. They showed that their users 'comments are important to them. I hope they still respect their users' comments.
    This is a great success in the hope of achieving it

    #Democracy ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ‘

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    • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

      -> Community Survey.jpg <-

      Dear managers, as you know your opinion is very important to us.
      Because we need it to keep improving, we ask you to fill in this survey. It will take about 5 minutes of your time. The survey is available from June 16 to June 21.
      Thanks in advance!

      ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง For English speaking managers: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/32RR59X
      ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ท For Turkish speaking managers: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/79QPBL3
      ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฆ For Arabic speaking managers: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/79YLXDZ
      ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น For Italian speaking managers: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/79R6GW9
      ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ For Dutch speaking managers: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/799CQ3X
      ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท For Persian speaking managers: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/79SX5X8
      ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ For Spanish speaking managers: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/79WF7DF
      ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡น For Portuguese speaking managers: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/792JQLL
      ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท For French speaking managers: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/79CSFNH
      ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช For German speaking managers: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/79JGSS5

      NOTE: We're sorry, but unfortunately we can't provide it on ALL available languages, so we picked the ones that cover the big majority of OSM users. If your language is not present, please feel free to pick the one in which you're the most comfortable with.

      If you have any questions, please ask.

      Hafti AbiH Offline
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      Hafti Abi
      wrote on last edited by
      #15

      @SpecialOne Nice to see that our requests got appreciated, big up for this, Albino!

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      • Majstor MattM Online
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        Majstor Matt
        wrote on last edited by Majstor Matt
        #16

        Yes, I have to say as well. IT is nice to see that forum users opinion matters too. Its nice that we have a way to express our views oficially in a survey as well ๐Ÿ™‚ Thanks @SpecialOne

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        • HBlauzahnH Offline
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          wrote on last edited by
          #17

          I think this survey is the best way to get an opinion from the community. Thanks a lotโœ‹

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          • SpecialOneS Offline
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            SpecialOne
            wrote on last edited by
            #18
            -Community Survey | Status update
            

            Thanks again everyone for filling in the Community Survey. We wanted to give you all a status update since we are working on this.

            As promised, 5 managers are randomly selected for the Boss Coin prize (500 Boss Coins). The lucky managers are:

            • German Chester
            • Nandรฃo13
            • JAzevedo
            • TimoBauer
            • Chucky111 (Netherlands region)

            About the survey itself: we're analysing all the data. It's a lot since so many of you helped us out by filling it in. We will let you know when we have the results.

            Thanks again!

            "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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            • SpecialOneS SpecialOne
              -Community Survey | Status update
              

              Thanks again everyone for filling in the Community Survey. We wanted to give you all a status update since we are working on this.

              As promised, 5 managers are randomly selected for the Boss Coin prize (500 Boss Coins). The lucky managers are:

              • German Chester
              • Nandรฃo13
              • JAzevedo
              • TimoBauer
              • Chucky111 (Netherlands region)

              About the survey itself: we're analysing all the data. It's a lot since so many of you helped us out by filling it in. We will let you know when we have the results.

              Thanks again!

              Majstor MattM Online
              Majstor MattM Online
              Majstor Matt
              wrote on last edited by Majstor Matt
              #19

              @SpecialOne Great. Thank you for the feedback and status report.

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              Crew: Proud to be Croat

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              • SpecialOneS Offline
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                SpecialOne
                wrote on last edited by
                #20
                -Community Survey | Results/Actions
                

                Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

                Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

                Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

                Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

                1. Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)
                2. Return of Classic Battles (6%)
                3. Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

                What are we going to do about this?

                1. We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.
                2. We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.
                3. We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

                Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

                "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                • SpecialOneS SpecialOne
                  -Community Survey | Results/Actions
                  

                  Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

                  Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

                  Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

                  Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

                  1. Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)
                  2. Return of Classic Battles (6%)
                  3. Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

                  What are we going to do about this?

                  1. We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.
                  2. We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.
                  3. We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

                  Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

                  jeffro daviesJ Offline
                  jeffro daviesJ Offline
                  jeffro davies
                  wrote on last edited by jeffro davies
                  #21

                  @SpecialOne said in Community Survey:

                  -Community Survey | Results/Actions
                  

                  Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

                  Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

                  Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

                  Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

                  1. Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)
                  2. Return of Classic Battles (6%)
                  3. Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

                  What are we going to do about this?

                  1. We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.
                  2. We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.
                  3. We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

                  Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

                  Excellent news, thank you @SpecialOne .

                  Couple of questions about 2 and 3 please. What battle rules would be allowed with this concept, I know you say you are not certain just curious about your thoughts?

                  Also what solution have you seen and will be working on thatโ€™s time consuming? Sure there are lots of suggestions so Iโ€™m not sure which GB and yourself think are good or bad ideas for OSM?

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                  • SpecialOneS SpecialOne
                    -Community Survey | Results/Actions
                    

                    Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

                    Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

                    Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

                    Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

                    1. Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)
                    2. Return of Classic Battles (6%)
                    3. Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

                    What are we going to do about this?

                    1. We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.
                    2. We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.
                    3. We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

                    Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

                    Vincent Ado KompanyV Offline
                    Vincent Ado KompanyV Offline
                    Vincent Ado Kompany
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #22

                    @SpecialOne said in Community Survey:

                    -Community Survey | Results/Actions
                    

                    Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

                    Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

                    Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

                    Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

                    1. Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)
                    2. Return of Classic Battles (6%)
                    3. Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

                    What are we going to do about this?

                    1. We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.
                    2. We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.
                    3. We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

                    Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

                    Very good news. Bravo, you are the best

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                    • SpecialOneS SpecialOne
                      -Community Survey | Results/Actions
                      

                      Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

                      Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

                      Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

                      Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

                      1. Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)
                      2. Return of Classic Battles (6%)
                      3. Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

                      What are we going to do about this?

                      1. We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.
                      2. We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.
                      3. We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

                      Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

                      Majstor MattM Online
                      Majstor MattM Online
                      Majstor Matt
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #23

                      @SpecialOne Nice too see that our feedback is being taken into account in decision making. Thank you for the update. ๐Ÿ™‚

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                      Crew: Proud to be Croat

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                      • SpecialOneS SpecialOne
                        -Community Survey | Results/Actions
                        

                        Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

                        Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

                        Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

                        Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

                        1. Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)
                        2. Return of Classic Battles (6%)
                        3. Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

                        What are we going to do about this?

                        1. We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.
                        2. We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.
                        3. We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

                        Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

                        reytinqR Offline
                        reytinqR Offline
                        reytinq
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                        #24

                        @SpecialOne nice๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

                        ู†ุงู†ุณูŠ ุนุฌุฑู…

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                        • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                          @SpecialOne said in Community Survey:

                          -Community Survey | Results/Actions
                          

                          Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

                          Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

                          Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

                          Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

                          1. Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)
                          2. Return of Classic Battles (6%)
                          3. Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

                          What are we going to do about this?

                          1. We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.
                          2. We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.
                          3. We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

                          Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

                          Excellent news, thank you @SpecialOne .

                          Couple of questions about 2 and 3 please. What battle rules would be allowed with this concept, I know you say you are not certain just curious about your thoughts?

                          Also what solution have you seen and will be working on thatโ€™s time consuming? Sure there are lots of suggestions so Iโ€™m not sure which GB and yourself think are good or bad ideas for OSM?

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                          #25

                          @jeffro-davies Both points 2 and 3 are 'linked'

                          As was said several times over the past years, to lose on purpose is something that goes against all fair play, and the OSM Terms. This was the reason why we implemented Battles created with a specific schedule to avoid playing against your crew mates.

                          The implementation turned out to be much more complex than originally thought. That is why other options, like picking your league or playing friendlies were left out for a later date.

                          Since then we've been trying to find a workable solution that will make the battles more interesting for our old school/hardcore users in a tournament format. Unfortunately thus far we have been unable to come up with a solution that fits. Other solutions we have discussed turned out to require too much time or are too complex to implement (point 3).

                          Recently we have been looking at different options (point 2). We're evaluating the community requests and how we could implement them without hurting fair play for ALL users and/or the OSM Terms.

                          This is still in a very early stage and we are still not entirely sure it's possible, so for now we prefer to keep the specifics private. Of course as soon as we have something tangible to share we will! Until then we ask for your patience.

                          "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                            GB could create a league of 10 specific teams for these battles where no coaching points would be awarded
                            It would be a training league, a league where all the resources are available, cup, etc.
                            With this league created just for these battles, there is no more favor for anyone, it is just a training league with no coach points, the rules would be respected because there is no advantage or loss for any coach
                            Winning this league will not contribute any points to the personal ranking, thus rendering any kind of cheating useless and following the GB terms.

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                            • nelson6111N nelson6111

                              GB could create a league of 10 specific teams for these battles where no coaching points would be awarded
                              It would be a training league, a league where all the resources are available, cup, etc.
                              With this league created just for these battles, there is no more favor for anyone, it is just a training league with no coach points, the rules would be respected because there is no advantage or loss for any coach
                              Winning this league will not contribute any points to the personal ranking, thus rendering any kind of cheating useless and following the GB terms.

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                              jeffro davies
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                              #27

                              @nelson6111 said in Community Survey:

                              GB could create a league of 10 specific teams for these battles where no coaching points would be awarded
                              It would be a training league, a league where all the resources are available, cup, etc.
                              With this league created just for these battles, there is no more favor for anyone, it is just a training league with no coach points, the rules would be respected because there is no advantage or loss for any coach
                              Winning this league will not contribute any points to the personal ranking, thus rendering any kind of cheating useless and following the GB terms.

                              This is why I suggested โ€œmanager points removedโ€ option in the moderator tools when creating a league. I really hope GB and staff are working on this ๐Ÿคž

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                              • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                                @jeffro-davies Both points 2 and 3 are 'linked'

                                As was said several times over the past years, to lose on purpose is something that goes against all fair play, and the OSM Terms. This was the reason why we implemented Battles created with a specific schedule to avoid playing against your crew mates.

                                The implementation turned out to be much more complex than originally thought. That is why other options, like picking your league or playing friendlies were left out for a later date.

                                Since then we've been trying to find a workable solution that will make the battles more interesting for our old school/hardcore users in a tournament format. Unfortunately thus far we have been unable to come up with a solution that fits. Other solutions we have discussed turned out to require too much time or are too complex to implement (point 3).

                                Recently we have been looking at different options (point 2). We're evaluating the community requests and how we could implement them without hurting fair play for ALL users and/or the OSM Terms.

                                This is still in a very early stage and we are still not entirely sure it's possible, so for now we prefer to keep the specifics private. Of course as soon as we have something tangible to share we will! Until then we ask for your patience.

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                                Apocalipse4
                                Portuguese Users
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #28

                                Dear @SpecialOne,

                                After quite some time, since the annoucement of the end of the classic/forum battles, finally we have good news related to this issue. At least, we can assume, that youยดve been working on a solution, and the matter is definitely not closed. I think, that for the community, reversing the changes in app battles ( point 1 ) is a positive signal, and will allow balance and competitiveness among all. Regarding point 2, there will certainly be many applicable ideas that allow, the continuity of the classic/forum battles, maintaining respect for fair play and OSM terms. It was important that the dialogue between the GB and the community was resumed, and that common sense will be imperative for a future solution.
                                Thank You

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                                  I heard from some people that there is some surway in the app version about battle.

                                  I checked the inbox, I don't have it at the moment, and I will check every day, so that I don't miss the survey.

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                                  • Vincent Ado KompanyV Vincent Ado Kompany

                                    I heard from some people that there is some surway in the app version about battle.

                                    I checked the inbox, I don't have it at the moment, and I will check every day, so that I don't miss the survey.

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                                    Bruninho12almeida
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                                    @Ado-Hackovic I think it only appears for those who have not been in battle for some time.

                                    Sintra Crew Moderator

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #31

                                      It looks like it's hard for some users to understand what's the intention of these surveys.

                                      Surveys are targeted to a specific group of users, so we can understand what can be made to improve OSM in a way that this specific group of users change the way they play.

                                      Actual survey is to find out why users that are in a crew doesn't play battles. So if you share the link to survey for others, it won't serve the purpose and results will be ignored!

                                      I deleted previous link and no punishment was given. If you chose to insist, then harsher measures will be taken!

                                      "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                                        #32

                                        But why is there this link to the survey in the Dutch forum?
                                        https://forum.onlinesoccermanager.com/topic/53162/vraag-aan-jullie-over-crewduels/27

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                                        • HBlauzahnH HBlauzahn

                                          But why is there this link to the survey in the Dutch forum?
                                          https://forum.onlinesoccermanager.com/topic/53162/vraag-aan-jullie-over-crewduels/27

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #33

                                          @HBlauzahn Because we all are humans and OSM players, so we make mistakes like all other OSM managers.

                                          Tks for letting us know. Post deleted!

                                          "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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