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  • wrathfuloneW wrathfulone

    First of all, I got a message from Markez17 that I got a place to play World Cup 2020. One day later I got message from him that "I got a place in WC with a wrong list provided.
    After get the correct one and check differences... I lose my place and I am a sub now."

    So when I calculate again my manager points on my first slot :

    Between 1th December and 31st May

    I have 44.365 points

    Between 14th December and 31st May

    I have 37.350 points.

    As I know, minimum requirements to qualify was 35.000 manager points. How come did I lost my place and I am in sub position now ? Can you please explain me ? @Markez17

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    @wrathfulone said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:

    As I know, minimum requirements to qualify was 35.000 manager points. How come did I lost my place and I am in sub position now ? Can you please explain me ? @Markez17

    You are not into the 156 first managers with those points between 14/12/2019 and 31/05/2020.
    Minimum manager points to qualify in a WC edition depends of others managers and points they got in the same period.

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      Alright, did not know the minimum manager points to qualify depends on others managers's points. As you mentioned earlier, I thought minimum was the 35.000 points.

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      • wrathfuloneW wrathfulone

        Alright, did not know the minimum manager points to qualify depends on others managers's points. As you mentioned earlier, I thought minimum was the 35.000 points.

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        @wrathfulone Each year this minimum has increased because more managers got aware of this competition and the qualifying period so people are calculating better their finishing dates of the leagues. A few years ago I qualified to the WC with only 25-28k points, now with 37k we both are substitutions. Hopefully we will get there! πŸ™‚

        @Markez17 - please ignore the mean or the not very well educated people who don't understand your voluntary effort and the fact that you received a wrong list from the beginning. I think that people who don't understand that and continue to be mean should be excluded from the list because they are not fair-play and so they don't deserve to be in the competition.
        Your work is really appreciated Manuel! 🎩 #hatsoff

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        • raul_alessioR raul_alessio

          @wrathfulone Each year this minimum has increased because more managers got aware of this competition and the qualifying period so people are calculating better their finishing dates of the leagues. A few years ago I qualified to the WC with only 25-28k points, now with 37k we both are substitutions. Hopefully we will get there! πŸ™‚

          @Markez17 - please ignore the mean or the not very well educated people who don't understand your voluntary effort and the fact that you received a wrong list from the beginning. I think that people who don't understand that and continue to be mean should be excluded from the list because they are not fair-play and so they don't deserve to be in the competition.
          Your work is really appreciated Manuel! 🎩 #hatsoff

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          @raul_alessio said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:

          ..... I think that people who don't understand that and continue to be mean should be excluded from the list.....

          .... now with 37k we both are substitutions.....

          It looks to me that you just want to get your place on the competition πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„ πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰

          "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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          • raul_alessioR raul_alessio

            @wrathfulone Each year this minimum has increased because more managers got aware of this competition and the qualifying period so people are calculating better their finishing dates of the leagues. A few years ago I qualified to the WC with only 25-28k points, now with 37k we both are substitutions. Hopefully we will get there! πŸ™‚

            @Markez17 - please ignore the mean or the not very well educated people who don't understand your voluntary effort and the fact that you received a wrong list from the beginning. I think that people who don't understand that and continue to be mean should be excluded from the list because they are not fair-play and so they don't deserve to be in the competition.
            Your work is really appreciated Manuel! 🎩 #hatsoff

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            @raul_alessio Hopefully ! πŸ™‚

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            • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

              @raul_alessio said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:

              ..... I think that people who don't understand that and continue to be mean should be excluded from the list.....

              .... now with 37k we both are substitutions.....

              It looks to me that you just want to get your place on the competition πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„ πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰

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              @SpecialOne I would love to play especially because I missed the last two years I believe, but no...that's not why I said that.

              In the last 6 years I've been organizing or at least helped organize all Romanian competitions so I know how it feels like to be criticized without a real reason.

              Manuel is doing a fantastic job and those who don't see it or understand that, don't really deserve to be among the worlds best players. True characters are shown in difficult moments like these!

              It's like VAR support in football. You may have scored, but if the camera shows it wasn't correct (like the first list Manuel received), you have to accept the cancellation with dignity. Yes, we feel sorry for you, but we can't go on with a mistake.

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              • raul_alessioR raul_alessio

                @SpecialOne I would love to play especially because I missed the last two years I believe, but no...that's not why I said that.

                In the last 6 years I've been organizing or at least helped organize all Romanian competitions so I know how it feels like to be criticized without a real reason.

                Manuel is doing a fantastic job and those who don't see it or understand that, don't really deserve to be among the worlds best players. True characters are shown in difficult moments like these!

                It's like VAR support in football. You may have scored, but if the camera shows it wasn't correct (like the first list Manuel received), you have to accept the cancellation with dignity. Yes, we feel sorry for you, but we can't go on with a mistake.

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                @raul_alessio I know, was just teasing you.

                In fact I'm the one to blame for the wrong list. Completely forgot to adjust the filter to 14th December.

                I've picked 4/5 random users from the list and manually checked the totals, they matched. all fine. I didn't selected anyone with leagues that ended before 14th.

                "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                  @raul_alessio I know, was just teasing you.

                  In fact I'm the one to blame for the wrong list. Completely forgot to adjust the filter to 14th December.

                  I've picked 4/5 random users from the list and manually checked the totals, they matched. all fine. I didn't selected anyone with leagues that ended before 14th.

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                  @SpecialOne #hatsoff for owning the blame and taking the responsibility!

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                  • raul_alessioR raul_alessio

                    @SpecialOne #hatsoff for owning the blame and taking the responsibility!

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                    @raul_alessio said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:

                    @SpecialOne #hatsoff for owning the blame and taking the responsibility!

                    Only the ones that do something can make mistakes πŸ˜‰

                    It's not an excuse, but to collect the info for this event, I have to get info from several tables and two of them are just the biggest ones on the whole OSM.

                    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                      WC list update

                      At this exactly moment, we have:

                      • 129 managers confirmed .
                      • 0 managers refused the WC invitation.
                      • We have 33 reserves.
                      • 16 managers have no problem about being league moderator and send invitations if it's needed.

                      Deadline is 18/06 around 18:00 UTC Time. Then, all free places are automatically assigned to reserves who confirmed his/her place, by manager points recollected order. I will send a message to those managers who get a place due to this reason.

                      ES Mod - (19/05/12 - 31/01/13) || ES Staff - (31/01/13 - 31/03/15) || Spanish CM - (01/04/15 - 24/05/16)
                      General Manager - (24/05/2016 - 11/2021) || Events Manager - (27/09/2017 - 11/2021)
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                        @Markez17 Is it exist an Hall Of Fame of WC where to see all the winners? (And The 2nd, etc...)

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                        • Alexitojr94A Alexitojr94

                          @Markez17 Is it exist an Hall Of Fame of WC where to see all the winners? (And The 2nd, etc...)

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                          @Alexitojr94 there isn't but here you have all winners!

                          Winners from 2007 to 2016

                          spoiler

                          2017 - RuiSilenoz πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Ή
                          2018 - The Jocker_10 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡¬
                          2019 - MenagerBL πŸ‡·πŸ‡Έ

                          ES Mod - (19/05/12 - 31/01/13) || ES Staff - (31/01/13 - 31/03/15) || Spanish CM - (01/04/15 - 24/05/16)
                          General Manager - (24/05/2016 - 11/2021) || Events Manager - (27/09/2017 - 11/2021)
                          https://www.twitch.tv/MMarquez92

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                            @Alexitojr94 there isn't but here you have all winners!

                            Winners from 2007 to 2016

                            spoiler

                            2017 - RuiSilenoz πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Ή
                            2018 - The Jocker_10 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡¬
                            2019 - MenagerBL πŸ‡·πŸ‡Έ

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                            @Markez17 said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:

                            @Alexitojr94 there isn't but here you have all winners!

                            Winners from 2007 to 2016

                            spoiler

                            2017 - RuiSilenoz πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Ή
                            2018 - The Jocker_10 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡¬
                            2019 - MenagerBL πŸ‡·πŸ‡Έ

                            Thanks, mate! πŸ™‚

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                            • Alexitojr94A Alexitojr94

                              @Markez17 said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:

                              @Alexitojr94 there isn't but here you have all winners!

                              Winners from 2007 to 2016

                              spoiler

                              2017 - RuiSilenoz πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Ή
                              2018 - The Jocker_10 πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡¬
                              2019 - MenagerBL πŸ‡·πŸ‡Έ

                              Thanks, mate! πŸ™‚

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                              @Markez17

                              Hi friend
                              We must be proud because you are in front of the events. You have been very professional and understanding.
                              I came here to give you strength at this point because I know how much you dedicate yourself to this competition.
                              You know, if you need anything you can count on me.

                              Big hug.

                              NinguΓ©m avanΓ§a isolado, ninguΓ©m fica para trΓ‘s. Staff OSM RuiSilenoz

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                                Just a remind while we wait...

                                WC 2020 Schedule

                                Accept/Decline: Until 18/6/2020
                                Make groups: Between 22/6/2020 and 23/6/2020

                                1st round: 25/6/2020 - End 1st round: 21/7/2020
                                Semifinal: 24/7/2020 (Provisional) - End Semifinal: 19/8/2020
                                Final 21/8/2020 (Provisional) - End Final 16/9/2020

                                WC leagues - Main rules

                                • All OSM Rules must be followed.
                                • Break rules can be punished with lost of league points, be disqualified from competition or be suspended/locked, depends on the seriousness of the matter.
                                • You can set a player in different position (Except GKs and GK position) but never do it in order to benefit other manager.
                                • Features like friendlies are up to each manager to decide how many they do per round.
                                • If you find another manager breaking any rule, just let me know (Markez17) by private message.

                                ES Mod - (19/05/12 - 31/01/13) || ES Staff - (31/01/13 - 31/03/15) || Spanish CM - (01/04/15 - 24/05/16)
                                General Manager - (24/05/2016 - 11/2021) || Events Manager - (27/09/2017 - 11/2021)
                                https://www.twitch.tv/MMarquez92

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                                  Any chance we will be able to see the looks of the teams (number of players, quality of players) couple days before start? Would be nice If we could tactically prepare if there will be some weird teams as they used to be sometimes in past (defense and midfield players rated around 60, and attackers rated over 90) πŸ˜„

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                                  • Majstor MattM Majstor Matt

                                    Any chance we will be able to see the looks of the teams (number of players, quality of players) couple days before start? Would be nice If we could tactically prepare if there will be some weird teams as they used to be sometimes in past (defense and midfield players rated around 60, and attackers rated over 90) πŸ˜„

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                                    @Majstor-Matt Unfortunately there is no chance.

                                    It's always a surprise and nobody know (Except the one who set those random ratings and it's not me) until leagues will be created!

                                    ES Mod - (19/05/12 - 31/01/13) || ES Staff - (31/01/13 - 31/03/15) || Spanish CM - (01/04/15 - 24/05/16)
                                    General Manager - (24/05/2016 - 11/2021) || Events Manager - (27/09/2017 - 11/2021)
                                    https://www.twitch.tv/MMarquez92

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                                      @Majstor-Matt Unfortunately there is no chance.

                                      It's always a surprise and nobody know (Except the one who set those random ratings and it's not me) until leagues will be created!

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                                      @Markez17 said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:

                                      Except the one who set those random ratings

                                      the only certainty in the life is that he is malefic πŸ˜„

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                                      • M Markez17

                                        @Majstor-Matt Unfortunately there is no chance.

                                        It's always a surprise and nobody know (Except the one who set those random ratings and it's not me) until leagues will be created!

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                                        @Markez17 Okay, I understand, thanks for the quick reply πŸ™‚

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                                        • Daniele BenjiaminD Daniele Benjiamin

                                          @Markez17 said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:

                                          Except the one who set those random ratings

                                          the only certainty in the life is that he is malefic πŸ˜„

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                                          @Daniele-Benjiamin said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:

                                          @Markez17 said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:

                                          Except the one who set those random ratings

                                          the only certainty in the life is that he is malefic πŸ˜„

                                          This time I'm not the one to blaim πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„

                                          Edit: But I agree with him πŸ˜‰ The best manager is not the one that always play with same tactic. The best manager is the one that is able to cope with any challenge that can be presented at him. That's also the reason why OSM WC doesn't have transfers, so users can't change teams to the style they are used to play with. Some are luckier than others, because squads go into their managing style.... But at the end the manager quality should prevail!

                                          "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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