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  • Majstor MattM Offline
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    Its nice to see we are finally getting some answers and explanations. Always nice to see that our "complaints" and suggestions are being at least looked in to and taken into consideration.

    Anyway, I would like that all of us focus more on suggestions to improve the medal system in order that we have as much as possible fair system that will award competitiveness and activity. Focusing only on cheaters and focusing only on the fact that we dont like medal system will surelly not help to improve much.

    So lets think about it and give some great suggestion, some people already tried to give some awesome feedback and suggestions, and there are some really great ideas here, lets keep it up! ๐Ÿ˜„

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    Crew: Proud to be Croat

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  • Dennis S BergkampD Offline
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    @specialone said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

    Not really sure if this is the way to go. The only possibility I see here is to add another setting when requesting leagues, so league mods can enable/disable it. It will require also adjustments on signing up, because it will have to be clear that Medals are active or not. On the specific situation of crew battles, it will have to be ALL on or ALL off....

    On a personal opinion I think that if we change, we should go for a change on calculation of win/draw/loss medals according with managers division and also end of season medals calculation.

    I would say all off for crew battles, but I appreciate it's being considered.

    Are you saying that "The Force" crew league is an easy league ? How many did you won in the 9 seasons you played there ๐Ÿ˜› ? And don't forget that I always play with the lowest goal team on crew league ๐Ÿ˜‰
    You should play a few more to make me lose 4K (2 * 2K) on every season ๐Ÿ˜‰
    In case someone wants to try it, just drop me a line ๐Ÿ˜‰ This is the list of League and cup winners and also managers who did the double on the 138 seasons we already played ๐Ÿ˜‰ (I know, I know.... I'm abusing my position and advertising my league)

    ๐Ÿ˜‚ no, I didn't say it was easy, only you win most of them (like your table shows ๐Ÿ˜‰) I was close 1 or 2 times, but still suffer from it not winning once โ˜น๐Ÿ˜‚ But always enjoyed playing it!
    If I have time and a free slot I will certainly come and play more leagues ๐Ÿ‘
    See @jeffro-davies already applied for the next one ๐Ÿ˜‰

    This is something that's already being considered ๐Ÿ˜‰ No promises, but who knows what future will bring ๐Ÿ‘

    Let's wait and see then

    You can either blame everybody else or you can take a look at yourself and determine where you can improve.

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  • jeffro daviesJ Offline
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    replied to Dennis S Bergkamp on last edited by
    #223

    @dennis-s-bergkamp Albino wonโ€™t reply to me but Iโ€™m sure I could win it given the chance, thatโ€™s if itโ€™s fair.

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  • Dennis S BergkampD Offline
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    @jeffro-davies

    Force & Friends leagues are always fair. No ST and TC used and no abuse of BC ๐Ÿ˜‰ ( but you cannot expect anything else from staff members ๐Ÿ˜‚ )

    I know @woopertje did join once and he couldn't manage it either, Although he had difficulty of having a goal 1.

    You can either blame everybody else or you can take a look at yourself and determine where you can improve.

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  • SpecialOneS Offline
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    @dennis-s-bergkamp said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

    I know @woopertje did join once and he couldn't manage it either, Although he had difficulty of having a goal 1.

    We're playing now the 139th Season, we already had 104 different managers playing on it and only 36 different managers won it ๐Ÿ†

    But let's get back on topic, otherwise I'll have to warn/ban myself ๐Ÿ˜„

    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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  • jeffro daviesJ Offline
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    @specialone said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

    @dennis-s-bergkamp said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

    I know @woopertje did join once and he couldn't manage it either, Although he had difficulty of having a goal 1.

    We're playing now the 139th Season, we already had 104 different managers playing on it and only 36 different managers won it ๐Ÿ†

    But let's get back on topic, otherwise I'll have to warn/ban myself ๐Ÿ˜„

    Letโ€™s make it 37๐Ÿ˜‰I see 5 CPUs in the current one. Sure you could make room for me in the next one. Think this is like the 20th message you have ignored me now over the last few months๐Ÿ˜‚least youโ€™re talking to others and answering questions which is good. I wonโ€™t ask again, il take the hint and wonโ€™t talk about it anymore.

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    replied to Vinayak Singh Mehra on last edited by Vinayak Singh Mehra
    #227

    @vinayak-singh-mehra said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

    Guys I've come up with a survey, please check it and answer your opinions.
    https://forms.gle/zdr9FqoQCTVuQpJE7

    You can still use this guys.

    Boss at Pro Manager Guiders
    Be the one who thinks for all, just not for himself! #SaveOSM

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    @somrob
    Now playing with teams with low objectives means loss of more medals. And most of all, you lose thrice the number of medals (which you get when you win a match) when you lose a match. I agree your point ๐Ÿ‘

    Boss at Pro Manager Guiders
    Be the one who thinks for all, just not for himself! #SaveOSM

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  • Vincent Ado KompanyV Offline
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    @vinayak-singh-mehra said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

    Now playing with teams with low objectives means loss of more medals

    If you are a bad manager, you are sure to lose more medal points.
    The only difference is that you get the same number of medal points when you take a club with obj 16 and obj 1, while with manager points it is not so. And if you want to be on top, you have to play with 4 slots

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    @vinayak-singh-mehra said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

    Guys I've come up with a survey, please check it and answer your opinions.
    https://forms.gle/zdr9FqoQCTVuQpJE7

    Hello everyone! The results of this survey will be given after this month ends. If you haven't have your opinion, then check it out!

    Boss at Pro Manager Guiders
    Be the one who thinks for all, just not for himself! #SaveOSM

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  • Wenger WiseW Offline
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    @SpecialOne said:

    There will never be a perfect system that please all users

    ...so we decided to create a system that almost everyone will hate

    there was also a lot of cheating with old ranking, but that didn't ended up in such a fast climb in rankings which make it difficult to spot them, now with 4 slots adding together, it's easier to spot them and they will be caught/punished faster.

    ladies and gentlemen, i want to introduce you to @ั„ะฐั€ะบะพะฟ_1, Russia top-1 since the beginning of spring
    if you wish, you can check the style of his play
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    On the technical side, old ranking system is becoming way too heavy for engines with the increase of number of users (keep in mind that every user have up to 4 entries on MP ranking system)

    it's 2021... can anyone believe in this?
    and my favorite:

    Just give it some time and you'll find out that medals will be more balanced and according to the manager level/skills

    the winner of the strongest CIS league received a negative bonus according to its results ๐Ÿ™‚
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    playing against a manager with a much stronger lineup, the system considers such a balance of points to be fair
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    maybe I'm wrong, but having the status of admin and forum moderator, one of your missions is to convey a message from the community to the developers
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    Based on the all-time low rating message, have you decided that everything is ok? I think you are useless to the community, but only contribute to the transformation of a good game (which is an important part of the lives of thousands of people around the world) into another casual shit from the playmarket. Bon Appetit.

    Just give it some time and you'll find out that medals will be more balanced and according to the manager level/skills.

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  • wakil iscoW Offline
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    @wenger-wise This is the case, the game has become boring with the classification of medals

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    I do not know what to add I have already said everything, or passed on the information and examples by the staff of my country ... It was however so simple to limit the ranking of medals to a single account and not to the 4, and to count that the open championships ....

    8 years of the game going up in smoke .... more fun ... thank you

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    @timilic7 Competitive players will leave the game if it stays "balanced" This is not real balance. So only casuals will be left in the game, and soon, it will jsut get boring, and the game will die off. To quote the great Winston Churchill, "Now is not the end. Nor is it the beginning of the end. But, perhaps it is the end of the beginning." It's t he end of the beginning of this game. It's been going strong-ish for years, now the player drop off, soon to come, then the game being down to the casuals only, dying off, with all of us going to the almost as broken FIFA, shell out the bucks for Football Manager, or switch to Top 11. If nothing happens, this game is doomed.

    "Normal people have normal dreams. Extraordinary people have Extraordinary dreams." - KloppInDaKop
    "If you didn't get the cuts, scrapes, and bruises, did you even do it?" - KloppInDaKop
    "Just wait and the Medals will get balanced"

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  • wakil iscoW Offline
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    @timilic7 Now the coaches will cut the game because of the non-existent justice and the game just wants to make money

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    @wakil-isco No need to even spend money ... 4 closed championships, against the computer, all the time .. No recruitments no friends no training camp ..... So no need to even give up money

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    @timilic7 But what is the goal of the game against a computer and not playing against experienced coaches? Is this because of a stupid, ignorant arrangement that has no benefit?

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    @wakil-isco No interest, but in any case that no longer allows me to be at the top of the ranking while playing osm duels with my crew or championships against a good manager ... And leaves room at the top representing the eh we likes to the majority of average players ...
    Who have a division and a ranking above mine in 6 months

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    @timilic7 Unfortunately, this is the reality. Now we will see what will happen when the training points are deducted, and whether the medal system will be modified

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    @wakil-isco
    i like the new medal system, higher ranking is harder to hold on. just the top 100 ranking gives opportunity to play private leagues in order to manipulate your ranking by easy winning your own league cause there is no competition. top 100 manager should forced to play competition tournaments or leagues by osm system randomly once per month and up to 4 slots. ๐Ÿฆฟโšฝ๏ธ so beat the AI โ€ฆ

    Eric Cantona vs Bruce Lee

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