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  • Harry PoonH Harry Poon

    Thanks everyone for sharing their input and discontent with this feature update (I believe we weren't clear enough on when this is coming). It's coming soon.

    I just wanted to weigh in saying that we will not be charging anything for the avatars that we are offering. We might someday, but as with everything in OSM, the huge majority of content is free. So you would only use Boss Coins to pay for extra special ones for example. But again, this not even on the list for now. All avatars with this update will be free.

    And to explain a bit more about why we're doing this. We have over a million managers. Someone can upload inappropriate content every single second which is available to everyone to see. This is a serious problem because there are minors playing our game. And the sentiment around user generated content is changing everywhere. From governments, to Google, to games.

    Ideally, we would moderate the inappropriate avatars like some of you already suggested. This simply isn't possible due to the huge scale of avatars in OSM. There are no tools available for us that can easily detect inappropriate content for images. And we also can't check every avatar before it's uploaded.

    These things combined forced us to make this call. On one hand we're happy that OSM will be safer, on the other we also loved having custom avatars as it's a great way to add a piece of your own personality to OSM. But we also think that this new system can be cool too. We can easily add new ones, also based on what the community wants. I hope we can turn our attention to thinking about cool stuff we can add. ^Luuk

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    @harry-poon Nothing can replace creative avatars. With the moment of the update, a certain part of this game ends.

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    • Fear ForceF Fear Force

      @harry-poon Yes, I agree if some people use inappropriate Avatar it will be bad, but why do we need to pay BC to get avatars this is only to make people lose BC right?

      Why not make all the avatars that will be available free

      You are making two bad mistakes.

      1. You are stopping us from using custom Avatars
      2. You are making us pay BC to use Avatars that will be available

      Do you guys only know money and Boss Coins?

      Tell me on which date this update will be available, then i will know when i will stop OSM.

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      Harry Poon
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      #35

      @fear-force As I said, all avatars that will be available will be free in this update.

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      • maniek_56M maniek_56

        @harry-poon Nothing can replace creative avatars. With the moment of the update, a certain part of this game ends.

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        Harry Poon
        wrote on last edited by
        #36

        @maniek_56 I agree to some extent. We are as disappointed as you that this beautiful part of the game will be less creative. But still, we will be able to replace at least some of it's creativity if we manage to become creative ourselves in searching for new ones we can add.

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        • Harry PoonH Harry Poon

          Thanks everyone for sharing their input and discontent with this feature update (I believe we weren't clear enough on when this is coming). It's coming soon.

          I just wanted to weigh in saying that we will not be charging anything for the avatars that we are offering. We might someday, but as with everything in OSM, the huge majority of content is free. So you would only use Boss Coins to pay for extra special ones for example. But again, this not even on the list for now. All avatars with this update will be free.

          And to explain a bit more about why we're doing this. We have over a million managers. Someone can upload inappropriate content every single second which is available to everyone to see. This is a serious problem because there are minors playing our game. And the sentiment around user generated content is changing everywhere. From governments, to Google, to games.

          Ideally, we would moderate the inappropriate avatars like some of you already suggested. This simply isn't possible due to the huge scale of avatars in OSM. There are no tools available for us that can easily detect inappropriate content for images. And we also can't check every avatar before it's uploaded.

          These things combined forced us to make this call. On one hand we're happy that OSM will be safer, on the other we also loved having custom avatars as it's a great way to add a piece of your own personality to OSM. But we also think that this new system can be cool too. We can easily add new ones, also based on what the community wants. I hope we can turn our attention to thinking about cool stuff we can add. ^Luuk

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          Fear Force
          wrote on last edited by
          #37

          @harry-poon You said "So you would only use Boss Coins to pay for extra special ones" What is that? you wrote this am I right?

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          • Fear ForceF Fear Force

            @harry-poon You said "So you would only use Boss Coins to pay for extra special ones" What is that? you wrote this am I right?

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            Harry Poon
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            #38

            @fear-force You are right. But I also wrote "We might someday". Meaning that we could introduce avatars for Boss Coins in the future but aren't planning on that now. However that will go, all avatars in this update will be free. Sorry if I was being unclear.

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            • Fear ForceF Fear Force

              @harry-poon You said "So you would only use Boss Coins to pay for extra special ones" What is that? you wrote this am I right?

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              @fear-force You're right, I wanted to comment on that too

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              • Harry PoonH Harry Poon

                @fear-force You are right. But I also wrote "We might someday". Meaning that we could introduce avatars for Boss Coins in the future but aren't planning on that now. However that will go, all avatars in this update will be free. Sorry if I was being unclear.

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                @harry-poon Ok, but why will we need to pay to have an avatar while all these years it was free, and everyone had custom Avatars. That means you are planning to make us pay BC to get good avatars in the future๐Ÿ˜• ๐Ÿ˜ž ๐Ÿ˜ž

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                • Harry PoonH Harry Poon

                  @maniek_56 I agree to some extent. We are as disappointed as you that this beautiful part of the game will be less creative. But still, we will be able to replace at least some of it's creativity if we manage to become creative ourselves in searching for new ones we can add.

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                  @harry-poon Now everything can interfere with avatars. Color, symbol, pattern, shape. Maybe there will be cool, nice avatars. However, this will not make any impression on adult players

                  ๐ŸŽ–๏ธ๐ŸŽ–๏ธPOLISH PATRIOTS๐ŸŽ–๏ธ๐ŸŽ–๏ธ
                  Musisz nauczyฤ‡ siฤ™ zasad gry. A potem โ€“ graฤ‡ lepiej niลผ wszyscy inni. [Albert Einstein]

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                  • maniek_56M maniek_56

                    @harry-poon Now everything can interfere with avatars. Color, symbol, pattern, shape. Maybe there will be cool, nice avatars. However, this will not make any impression on adult players

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                    #42

                    Anyway, complaining won't make them step back on their decision, so i will stop complaining and think as if nothing happen. Having no custom avatar won't stop me playing OSM as before, I will forget that there is avatar that can be added on your profile

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                    • maniek_56M maniek_56

                      @harry-poon Now everything can interfere with avatars. Color, symbol, pattern, shape. Maybe there will be cool, nice avatars. However, this will not make any impression on adult players

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #43

                      @maniek_56 I think that's a good point and one of the negative effects of this update. But let's see how it plays out.

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                      • Harry PoonH Harry Poon

                        @maniek_56 I think that's a good point and one of the negative effects of this update. But let's see how it plays out.

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                        #44

                        @harry-poon What about usernames? When will you remove that as well as words can be offensive ans inappropriate as well? Crew names as well? When are you removing that?
                        Just give us User IDs and Crew IDs. We must be safe!

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                        • Harry PoonH Harry Poon

                          @maniek_56 I think that's a good point and one of the negative effects of this update. But let's see how it plays out.

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                          English Users
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                          @harry-poon Hi! As on all good games, the tool is the possibility for the community to report inappropriate content. This "update avatar" just shows the main problem on OSM : no customer service. My experience in one month : 3 mails and no answer, I report a mistake about a squad on world forum, no change after one month and on French forum a guy is waiting for someone to solve a bug since three months... lol The true is that you choose this option because you don't have enough people to manage avatar reports. User experience is not your priority.

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                          • Harry PoonH Harry Poon

                            Thanks everyone for sharing their input and discontent with this feature update (I believe we weren't clear enough on when this is coming). It's coming soon.

                            I just wanted to weigh in saying that we will not be charging anything for the avatars that we are offering. We might someday, but as with everything in OSM, the huge majority of content is free. So you would only use Boss Coins to pay for extra special ones for example. But again, this not even on the list for now. All avatars with this update will be free.

                            And to explain a bit more about why we're doing this. We have over a million managers. Someone can upload inappropriate content every single second which is available to everyone to see. This is a serious problem because there are minors playing our game. And the sentiment around user generated content is changing everywhere. From governments, to Google, to games.

                            Ideally, we would moderate the inappropriate avatars like some of you already suggested. This simply isn't possible due to the huge scale of avatars in OSM. There are no tools available for us that can easily detect inappropriate content for images. And we also can't check every avatar before it's uploaded.

                            These things combined forced us to make this call. On one hand we're happy that OSM will be safer, on the other we also loved having custom avatars as it's a great way to add a piece of your own personality to OSM. But we also think that this new system can be cool too. We can easily add new ones, also based on what the community wants. I hope we can turn our attention to thinking about cool stuff we can add. ^Luuk

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                            #46

                            @harry-poon It would be better to implement an option to report an offensive profile or photo, but this would be a bit more work and would not bring money... which is more important than listening to the OSM Players who bring the game to life...

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                            • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                              Avatar update

                              We have bad and good news.

                              • Let's start with the bad news.
                                We will no longer support uploading custom avatars for your manager or your Crew.
                                Custom avatars are great, we all love uploading football images that suit us best. But there's a big downside and that's inappropriate content.
                                Everyone can upload inappropriate images that will be shown to over a million managers right away.
                                Of course, there's only a very small percentage of managers who would think of doing this. But still, it's dangerous and unsafe. And it happens.

                              • In with the good news.
                                We will be adding new avatars to OSM to choose from. So with this update, coming soon, every manager will get the same default avatar but can pick a new one from a cool selection. We thought of some cool stuff but we also want your input to create new avatars.
                                Let us know which avatars you would like to have!

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                              #47

                              @specialone @harry-poon

                              Is it perhaps possible to integrate a generator for crew emblems into the game? Where we can maybe choose a text, numbers, colors, logos etc. ourselves?

                              So the crews would at least have the possibility to create something personal, with which we can identify a little.

                              Of course this wouldn't be comparable to the existing crew logos, but at least it would be better than just being able to choose a standard logo.

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                              • Harry PoonH Harry Poon

                                Thanks everyone for sharing their input and discontent with this feature update (I believe we weren't clear enough on when this is coming). It's coming soon.

                                I just wanted to weigh in saying that we will not be charging anything for the avatars that we are offering. We might someday, but as with everything in OSM, the huge majority of content is free. So you would only use Boss Coins to pay for extra special ones for example. But again, this not even on the list for now. All avatars with this update will be free.

                                And to explain a bit more about why we're doing this. We have over a million managers. Someone can upload inappropriate content every single second which is available to everyone to see. This is a serious problem because there are minors playing our game. And the sentiment around user generated content is changing everywhere. From governments, to Google, to games.

                                Ideally, we would moderate the inappropriate avatars like some of you already suggested. This simply isn't possible due to the huge scale of avatars in OSM. There are no tools available for us that can easily detect inappropriate content for images. And we also can't check every avatar before it's uploaded.

                                These things combined forced us to make this call. On one hand we're happy that OSM will be safer, on the other we also loved having custom avatars as it's a great way to add a piece of your own personality to OSM. But we also think that this new system can be cool too. We can easily add new ones, also based on what the community wants. I hope we can turn our attention to thinking about cool stuff we can add. ^Luuk

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                                @harry-poon Will Julian Nagelsmanns avatar be avaiable in OSM?

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                                • Vincent Ado KompanyV Vincent Ado Kompany

                                  @harry-poon Will Julian Nagelsmanns avatar be avaiable in OSM?

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                                  @ado-hackovic Yes, there will also be a Madonna.

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                                  • maniek_56M maniek_56

                                    @ado-hackovic Yes, there will also be a Madonna.

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                                    #50

                                    Hi I would like to ask, is it OSM that allows Alibaba to put this ad?20220908_173313.jpg ๐Ÿ˜–๐Ÿ˜ฑ

                                    Sorry to put this on the forum but I thought OSM was trying to throw away inappropriate thingsโ˜น๏ธ

                                    FEAR THE FORCE OF FOOTBALL

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                                    • Fear ForceF Fear Force

                                      Hi I would like to ask, is it OSM that allows Alibaba to put this ad?20220908_173313.jpg ๐Ÿ˜–๐Ÿ˜ฑ

                                      Sorry to put this on the forum but I thought OSM was trying to throw away inappropriate thingsโ˜น๏ธ

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                                      @fear-force this is different ๐Ÿ˜

                                      Just give it some time and you'll find out that medals will be more balanced and according to the manager level/skills.

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                                      • Fear ForceF Fear Force

                                        Hi I would like to ask, is it OSM that allows Alibaba to put this ad?20220908_173313.jpg ๐Ÿ˜–๐Ÿ˜ฑ

                                        Sorry to put this on the forum but I thought OSM was trying to throw away inappropriate thingsโ˜น๏ธ

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                                        @fear-force this depends on your cookies... i recommend to watch porn in browsers "private mode" ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                        • MarkusRW5M MarkusRW5

                                          @fear-force this depends on your cookies... i recommend to watch porn in browsers "private mode" ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                          @markusrw5 What is porn??

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