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    Vinayak Singh Mehra
    English Users
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    #116

    Removal of manager points= More resignations from clubs. Why? Because many managers are unable to stay on their objectives but they still play to get manager points.

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    Be the one who thinks for all, just not for himself! #SaveOSM

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    • ParatonerrP Paratonerr

      @AlyssaGB I don't support you to introduce a medal system instead of manager points, as the efforts of former players will be ignored.

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      Vinayak Singh Mehra
      English Users
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      #117

      @paratonerr
      True.

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        Vinayak Singh Mehra
        English Users
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        #118

        Just see @AlyssaGB's post in which he tells about removal of manager points. Surely the most disvoted post ever😂😂 Looks like everyone is sad with it☹️☹️ If you check more info in the same post, there was written they asked the top 10,000 managers. I don't think so that's true🕵️🕵️

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        • BVBPeregrinus_NLB Offline
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          BVBPeregrinus_NL
          Dutch Users
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          #119

          And what about the 'Top-100' Achievement (and its 7500 BossCoins reward)?
          Once the ManagerPoints will be omitted, will this Achievement also cease to exist?

          If this is the case, this isn't fair, because some Managers have been rewarded those 7500 BC and others will never be able to.

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          • BVBPeregrinus_NLB BVBPeregrinus_NL

            And what about the 'Top-100' Achievement (and its 7500 BossCoins reward)?
            Once the ManagerPoints will be omitted, will this Achievement also cease to exist?

            If this is the case, this isn't fair, because some Managers have been rewarded those 7500 BC and others will never be able to.

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            Pagno7
            wrote on last edited by
            #120

            In any case, I read that this new classification is a real success ... 🤣
            Everyone looks very happy.

            It would take the opinion of the "best medal players", too bad they probably do not know the forum ...

            good day to all.

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            • BVBPeregrinus_NLB BVBPeregrinus_NL

              And what about the 'Top-100' Achievement (and its 7500 BossCoins reward)?
              Once the ManagerPoints will be omitted, will this Achievement also cease to exist?

              If this is the case, this isn't fair, because some Managers have been rewarded those 7500 BC and others will never be able to.

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              Majstor Matt
              wrote on last edited by
              #121

              @bvbperegrinus_nl
              Why wouldnt there be a chance? Ranking will still be there and you will still be able to get into top-100. Only thing is, you will have to stop play competitive leagues and start playing with noobs only 😄

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              • Majstor MattM Majstor Matt

                @bvbperegrinus_nl
                Why wouldnt there be a chance? Ranking will still be there and you will still be able to get into top-100. Only thing is, you will have to stop play competitive leagues and start playing with noobs only 😄

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                timilic7
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                #122

                @majstor-matt no versus bot in lock champ. It s more easy again.. And less expansive.. No transfert, no training camp, no friendly game... Top medals classement and no coins...

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                • HBlauzahnH HBlauzahn

                  @ado-hackovic
                  Then take a look at this league of him. Active managers, almost no transfers. Why don't they check that?

                  https://de.onlinesoccermanager.com/League/Standings/101295071#standings-list

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                  #123

                  @hblauzahn said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                  @ado-hackovic
                  Then take a look at this league of him. Active managers, almost no transfers. Why don't they check that?

                  https://de.onlinesoccermanager.com/League/Standings/101295071#standings-list

                  Because no time to check...need to check first classic battles...fair play....terms of OSM....

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                  • Majstor MattM Majstor Matt

                    @bvbperegrinus_nl
                    Why wouldnt there be a chance? Ranking will still be there and you will still be able to get into top-100. Only thing is, you will have to stop play competitive leagues and start playing with noobs only 😄

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                    Vincent Ado Kompany
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                    #124

                    @majstor-matt said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                    Only thing is, you will have to stop play competitive leagues and start playing with noobs only

                    ... "sleep" on OSM and play with 4 slots

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                    • Vincent Ado KompanyV Vincent Ado Kompany

                      @majstor-matt said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                      Only thing is, you will have to stop play competitive leagues and start playing with noobs only

                      ... "sleep" on OSM and play with 4 slots

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                      Rafelmaz
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #125

                      Not a single positive comment. I would like to read someone who says...Old system is shit...new system is better. Just to understand why...

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                      • Márcio Girilim SantosM Offline
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                        Márcio Girilim Santos
                        Portuguese Users
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #126

                        Good morning to all.

                        I already read all post about this decision to remove Manager Points and it is obvious that 99.9% doesn´t agreed with that.

                        I posted a comment in Portuguese Forum first about this situation where i gave the example here before explained by @HBlauzahn.

                        The actual top Medal Ranking Player villooti despite he is a OSM player since January 2020, he is at the top of the ranking ...
                        If we analyze this 4 slots, this player has the 4 leagues created by him.
                        ➡ SLOT H: There are 10 coaches in a league of 12, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 28M team.
                        ➡ SLOT 1: There are 14 coaches in a league of 14, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 25M team.
                        ➡ SLOT 2: There are 8 coaches in a league of 10, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 27M team.
                        ➡ SLOT 3: There are 12 coaches in a league of 12, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 29M team.

                        💁‍♂️ Recipe:: Just create the 4 leagues in the 4 slots, invite inactive coaches and you will be great! 🤷‍♂️

                        Shame...

                        If Medal Ranking is a ranking to stay, please do not remove Coach Point ranking. Let the 2 co-exist...🙏

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                        • Márcio Girilim SantosM Márcio Girilim Santos

                          Good morning to all.

                          I already read all post about this decision to remove Manager Points and it is obvious that 99.9% doesn´t agreed with that.

                          I posted a comment in Portuguese Forum first about this situation where i gave the example here before explained by @HBlauzahn.

                          The actual top Medal Ranking Player villooti despite he is a OSM player since January 2020, he is at the top of the ranking ...
                          If we analyze this 4 slots, this player has the 4 leagues created by him.
                          ➡ SLOT H: There are 10 coaches in a league of 12, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 28M team.
                          ➡ SLOT 1: There are 14 coaches in a league of 14, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 25M team.
                          ➡ SLOT 2: There are 8 coaches in a league of 10, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 27M team.
                          ➡ SLOT 3: There are 12 coaches in a league of 12, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 29M team.

                          💁‍♂️ Recipe:: Just create the 4 leagues in the 4 slots, invite inactive coaches and you will be great! 🤷‍♂️

                          Shame...

                          If Medal Ranking is a ranking to stay, please do not remove Coach Point ranking. Let the 2 co-exist...🙏

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                          Rafelmaz
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #127

                          @márcio-girilim-santos

                          It's a shame. A real injustice against all of us that puts time and efforts to improve legally during these years.

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                          • Márcio Girilim SantosM Márcio Girilim Santos

                            Good morning to all.

                            I already read all post about this decision to remove Manager Points and it is obvious that 99.9% doesn´t agreed with that.

                            I posted a comment in Portuguese Forum first about this situation where i gave the example here before explained by @HBlauzahn.

                            The actual top Medal Ranking Player villooti despite he is a OSM player since January 2020, he is at the top of the ranking ...
                            If we analyze this 4 slots, this player has the 4 leagues created by him.
                            ➡ SLOT H: There are 10 coaches in a league of 12, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 28M team.
                            ➡ SLOT 1: There are 14 coaches in a league of 14, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 25M team.
                            ➡ SLOT 2: There are 8 coaches in a league of 10, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 27M team.
                            ➡ SLOT 3: There are 12 coaches in a league of 12, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 29M team.

                            💁‍♂️ Recipe:: Just create the 4 leagues in the 4 slots, invite inactive coaches and you will be great! 🤷‍♂️

                            Shame...

                            If Medal Ranking is a ranking to stay, please do not remove Coach Point ranking. Let the 2 co-exist...🙏

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                            timilic7
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #128

                            @márcio-girilim-santos your text is perfect...

                            I would like to hear the opinion of the staffs of the different countries. They are also players

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                            • Márcio Girilim SantosM Márcio Girilim Santos

                              Good morning to all.

                              I already read all post about this decision to remove Manager Points and it is obvious that 99.9% doesn´t agreed with that.

                              I posted a comment in Portuguese Forum first about this situation where i gave the example here before explained by @HBlauzahn.

                              The actual top Medal Ranking Player villooti despite he is a OSM player since January 2020, he is at the top of the ranking ...
                              If we analyze this 4 slots, this player has the 4 leagues created by him.
                              ➡ SLOT H: There are 10 coaches in a league of 12, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 28M team.
                              ➡ SLOT 1: There are 14 coaches in a league of 14, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 25M team.
                              ➡ SLOT 2: There are 8 coaches in a league of 10, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 27M team.
                              ➡ SLOT 3: There are 12 coaches in a league of 12, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 29M team.

                              💁‍♂️ Recipe:: Just create the 4 leagues in the 4 slots, invite inactive coaches and you will be great! 🤷‍♂️

                              Shame...

                              If Medal Ranking is a ranking to stay, please do not remove Coach Point ranking. Let the 2 co-exist...🙏

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                              Vincent Ado Kompany
                              wrote on last edited by Vincent Ado Kompany
                              #129

                              @márcio-girilim-santos said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                              Good morning to all.

                              I already read all post about this decision to remove Manager Points and it is obvious that 99.9% doesn´t agreed with that.

                              I posted a comment in Portuguese Forum first about this situation where i gave the example here before explained by @HBlauzahn.

                              The actual top Medal Ranking Player villooti despite he is a OSM player since January 2020, he is at the top of the ranking ...
                              If we analyze this 4 slots, this player has the 4 leagues created by him.
                              ➡ SLOT H: There are 10 coaches in a league of 12, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 28M team.
                              ➡ SLOT 1: There are 14 coaches in a league of 14, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 25M team.
                              ➡ SLOT 2: There are 8 coaches in a league of 10, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 27M team.
                              ➡ SLOT 3: There are 12 coaches in a league of 12, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 29M team.

                              💁‍♂️ Recipe:: Just create the 4 leagues in the 4 slots, invite inactive coaches and you will be great! 🤷‍♂️

                              Shame...

                              If Medal Ranking is a ranking to stay, please do not remove Coach Point ranking. Let the 2 co-exist...🙏

                              "Managers" in his leagues:

                              Screenshot_20210311-132639_Chrome.jpg
                              Screenshot_20210311-132717_Chrome.jpg
                              Screenshot_20210311-132802_Chrome.jpg
                              Screenshot_20210311-132824_Chrome.jpg

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                              Nagelsmann on fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥
                              Tari Gamad 🔞📌💦

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                              • Vincent Ado KompanyV Vincent Ado Kompany

                                @márcio-girilim-santos said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                                Good morning to all.

                                I already read all post about this decision to remove Manager Points and it is obvious that 99.9% doesn´t agreed with that.

                                I posted a comment in Portuguese Forum first about this situation where i gave the example here before explained by @HBlauzahn.

                                The actual top Medal Ranking Player villooti despite he is a OSM player since January 2020, he is at the top of the ranking ...
                                If we analyze this 4 slots, this player has the 4 leagues created by him.
                                ➡ SLOT H: There are 10 coaches in a league of 12, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 28M team.
                                ➡ SLOT 1: There are 14 coaches in a league of 14, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 25M team.
                                ➡ SLOT 2: There are 8 coaches in a league of 10, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 27M team.
                                ➡ SLOT 3: There are 12 coaches in a league of 12, all inactive coaches (except Villooti). Villoti manages to lead the league with 0 draws and 0 losses with a 29M team.

                                💁‍♂️ Recipe:: Just create the 4 leagues in the 4 slots, invite inactive coaches and you will be great! 🤷‍♂️

                                Shame...

                                If Medal Ranking is a ranking to stay, please do not remove Coach Point ranking. Let the 2 co-exist...🙏

                                "Managers" in his leagues:

                                Screenshot_20210311-132639_Chrome.jpg
                                Screenshot_20210311-132717_Chrome.jpg
                                Screenshot_20210311-132802_Chrome.jpg
                                Screenshot_20210311-132824_Chrome.jpg

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                                #130

                                @ado-hackovic
                                If you check some other leagues from people in top 10 situation is the same. 4 leagues with completelly same opponents and most of them are active just when needed. Looks like we simply do not know the right way to play this game, these guys have cracked it and I guess we should learn form them. They are "the best" after all 😉

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                                  #131

                                  Very disappointing. I've been playing leagues for a long time to score and climb the ranking to simply throw our management points in the trash. Some work hard to earn those points. I'm almost reaching the Global Top 100 and would win the achievement of 7500 coins. This is a joke.

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                                    Never realized we have handball servers as well on OSM 😄 😄

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                                      I believe that many accounts will be banned

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                                      • GuilhermeOliveira12G GuilhermeOliveira12

                                        Very disappointing. I've been playing leagues for a long time to score and climb the ranking to simply throw our management points in the trash. Some work hard to earn those points. I'm almost reaching the Global Top 100 and would win the achievement of 7500 coins. This is a joke.

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                                        rubber84
                                        Italian Users
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                                        #134

                                        Buongiorno,anche io vorrei dire la mia al riguardo,questa decisione di togliere i punti manager mi sembra sbagliata.Questi sondaggi di cui parli,non li ho visti da nessuna parte quindi presumo che non siano veri.Prima di fare una scelta del genere mi sembra opportuno ascoltare prima l'opinione della community e decidere tutti insieme, perché credo che a nessuno piaccia questa idea.
                                        Manager che giocano da anni vedranno il susseguirsi dell'eliminazione dei punti dopo lo sforzo per raggiungere l'alta classifica quindi mi sembra assurdo.
                                        Per non parlare di questa classificazione delle medaglie che la trovo al quanto imbarazzante,ci sono manager che giocano da pochi mesi e si ritrovano alti in classifica ma presumo che non siano fenomeni,forse sarebbe meglio sistemare prima questo problema.
                                        Spero che dopo tutte queste lamentele di tutti noi possiate tornare sui vostri passi.

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                                          #135

                                          Looking at the majority of the posts we see in here, all should be fine if we lock the cheaters, is that it?

                                          There will never be a perfect system that please all users. There were several reasons for us to look for a different ranking system (gameplay and technical reasons).

                                          This new ranking is in place for 6 months and I didn't saw a single complaint/suggestion to improve it.... and now that we announce that we'll remove old one, suddenly it's all bad?

                                          As far as I'm aware, there was also a lot of cheating with old ranking, but that didn't ended up in such a fast climb in rankings which make it difficult to spot them, now with 4 slots adding together, it's easier to spot them and they will be caught/punished faster.

                                          Our main goal is not punish users, we aim to 'educate' users and make it harder to cheat. That's why we don't go on chase cheaters via ranking otherwise we wouldn't be doing anything else.

                                          So... my suggestion is:

                                          • Let's work together on solutions to improve this medal ranking instead of just repeat yourselves saying this ranking is a bad idea?

                                          NOTE: If you guys want me to be active providing answers where possible and discuss it with you, you first have to read, give it some thought and think before post!

                                          "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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