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  • Dennis S BergkampD Dennis S Bergkamp

    @specialone said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

    Not really sure if this is the way to go. The only possibility I see here is to add another setting when requesting leagues, so league mods can enable/disable it. It will require also adjustments on signing up, because it will have to be clear that Medals are active or not. On the specific situation of crew battles, it will have to be ALL on or ALL off....

    On a personal opinion I think that if we change, we should go for a change on calculation of win/draw/loss medals according with managers division and also end of season medals calculation.

    I would say all off for crew battles, but I appreciate it's being considered.

    Are you saying that "The Force" crew league is an easy league ? How many did you won in the 9 seasons you played there 😛 ? And don't forget that I always play with the lowest goal team on crew league 😉
    You should play a few more to make me lose 4K (2 * 2K) on every season 😉
    In case someone wants to try it, just drop me a line 😉 This is the list of League and cup winners and also managers who did the double on the 138 seasons we already played 😉 (I know, I know.... I'm abusing my position and advertising my league)

    😂 no, I didn't say it was easy, only you win most of them (like your table shows 😉) I was close 1 or 2 times, but still suffer from it not winning once ☹😂 But always enjoyed playing it!
    If I have time and a free slot I will certainly come and play more leagues 👍
    See @jeffro-davies already applied for the next one 😉

    This is something that's already being considered 😉 No promises, but who knows what future will bring 👍

    Let's wait and see then

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    @dennis-s-bergkamp Albino won’t reply to me but I’m sure I could win it given the chance, that’s if it’s fair.

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    • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

      @dennis-s-bergkamp Albino won’t reply to me but I’m sure I could win it given the chance, that’s if it’s fair.

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      Dennis S Bergkamp
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      @jeffro-davies

      Force & Friends leagues are always fair. No ST and TC used and no abuse of BC 😉 ( but you cannot expect anything else from staff members 😂 )

      I know @woopertje did join once and he couldn't manage it either, Although he had difficulty of having a goal 1.

      You can either blame everybody else or you can take a look at yourself and determine where you can improve.

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      • Dennis S BergkampD Dennis S Bergkamp

        @jeffro-davies

        Force & Friends leagues are always fair. No ST and TC used and no abuse of BC 😉 ( but you cannot expect anything else from staff members 😂 )

        I know @woopertje did join once and he couldn't manage it either, Although he had difficulty of having a goal 1.

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        @dennis-s-bergkamp said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

        I know @woopertje did join once and he couldn't manage it either, Although he had difficulty of having a goal 1.

        We're playing now the 139th Season, we already had 104 different managers playing on it and only 36 different managers won it 🏆

        But let's get back on topic, otherwise I'll have to warn/ban myself 😄

        "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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        • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

          @dennis-s-bergkamp said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

          I know @woopertje did join once and he couldn't manage it either, Although he had difficulty of having a goal 1.

          We're playing now the 139th Season, we already had 104 different managers playing on it and only 36 different managers won it 🏆

          But let's get back on topic, otherwise I'll have to warn/ban myself 😄

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          @specialone said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

          @dennis-s-bergkamp said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

          I know @woopertje did join once and he couldn't manage it either, Although he had difficulty of having a goal 1.

          We're playing now the 139th Season, we already had 104 different managers playing on it and only 36 different managers won it 🏆

          But let's get back on topic, otherwise I'll have to warn/ban myself 😄

          Let’s make it 37😉I see 5 CPUs in the current one. Sure you could make room for me in the next one. Think this is like the 20th message you have ignored me now over the last few months😂least you’re talking to others and answering questions which is good. I won’t ask again, il take the hint and won’t talk about it anymore.

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          • V Vinayak Singh Mehra

            Guys I've come up with a survey, please check it and answer your opinions.
            https://forms.gle/zdr9FqoQCTVuQpJE7

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            Vinayak Singh Mehra
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            #227

            @vinayak-singh-mehra said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

            Guys I've come up with a survey, please check it and answer your opinions.
            https://forms.gle/zdr9FqoQCTVuQpJE7

            You can still use this guys.

            Boss at Pro Manager Guiders
            Be the one who thinks for all, just not for himself! #SaveOSM

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              @somrob
              Now playing with teams with low objectives means loss of more medals. And most of all, you lose thrice the number of medals (which you get when you win a match) when you lose a match. I agree your point 👍

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              • V Vinayak Singh Mehra

                @somrob
                Now playing with teams with low objectives means loss of more medals. And most of all, you lose thrice the number of medals (which you get when you win a match) when you lose a match. I agree your point 👍

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                @vinayak-singh-mehra said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                Now playing with teams with low objectives means loss of more medals

                If you are a bad manager, you are sure to lose more medal points.
                The only difference is that you get the same number of medal points when you take a club with obj 16 and obj 1, while with manager points it is not so. And if you want to be on top, you have to play with 4 slots

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                • V Vinayak Singh Mehra

                  Guys I've come up with a survey, please check it and answer your opinions.
                  https://forms.gle/zdr9FqoQCTVuQpJE7

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                  Vinayak Singh Mehra
                  English Users
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                  @vinayak-singh-mehra said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                  Guys I've come up with a survey, please check it and answer your opinions.
                  https://forms.gle/zdr9FqoQCTVuQpJE7

                  Hello everyone! The results of this survey will be given after this month ends. If you haven't have your opinion, then check it out!

                  Boss at Pro Manager Guiders
                  Be the one who thinks for all, just not for himself! #SaveOSM

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                    @SpecialOne said:

                    There will never be a perfect system that please all users

                    ...so we decided to create a system that almost everyone will hate

                    there was also a lot of cheating with old ranking, but that didn't ended up in such a fast climb in rankings which make it difficult to spot them, now with 4 slots adding together, it's easier to spot them and they will be caught/punished faster.

                    ladies and gentlemen, i want to introduce you to @фаркоп_1, Russia top-1 since the beginning of spring
                    if you wish, you can check the style of his play
                    фаркопчик дорогой.png

                    On the technical side, old ranking system is becoming way too heavy for engines with the increase of number of users (keep in mind that every user have up to 4 entries on MP ranking system)

                    it's 2021... can anyone believe in this?
                    and my favorite:

                    Just give it some time and you'll find out that medals will be more balanced and according to the manager level/skills

                    the winner of the strongest CIS league received a negative bonus according to its results 🙂
                    жо банди.png

                    playing against a manager with a much stronger lineup, the system considers such a balance of points to be fair
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                    maybe I'm wrong, but having the status of admin and forum moderator, one of your missions is to convey a message from the community to the developers
                    39.png
                    Based on the all-time low rating message, have you decided that everything is ok? I think you are useless to the community, but only contribute to the transformation of a good game (which is an important part of the lives of thousands of people around the world) into another casual shit from the playmarket. Bon Appetit.

                    Just give it some time and you'll find out that medals will be more balanced and according to the manager level/skills.

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                    • Wenger WiseW Wenger Wise

                      @SpecialOne said:

                      There will never be a perfect system that please all users

                      ...so we decided to create a system that almost everyone will hate

                      there was also a lot of cheating with old ranking, but that didn't ended up in such a fast climb in rankings which make it difficult to spot them, now with 4 slots adding together, it's easier to spot them and they will be caught/punished faster.

                      ladies and gentlemen, i want to introduce you to @фаркоп_1, Russia top-1 since the beginning of spring
                      if you wish, you can check the style of his play
                      фаркопчик дорогой.png

                      On the technical side, old ranking system is becoming way too heavy for engines with the increase of number of users (keep in mind that every user have up to 4 entries on MP ranking system)

                      it's 2021... can anyone believe in this?
                      and my favorite:

                      Just give it some time and you'll find out that medals will be more balanced and according to the manager level/skills

                      the winner of the strongest CIS league received a negative bonus according to its results 🙂
                      жо банди.png

                      playing against a manager with a much stronger lineup, the system considers such a balance of points to be fair
                      sss.png

                      maybe I'm wrong, but having the status of admin and forum moderator, one of your missions is to convey a message from the community to the developers
                      39.png
                      Based on the all-time low rating message, have you decided that everything is ok? I think you are useless to the community, but only contribute to the transformation of a good game (which is an important part of the lives of thousands of people around the world) into another casual shit from the playmarket. Bon Appetit.

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                      @wenger-wise This is the case, the game has become boring with the classification of medals

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                      • wakil iscoW wakil isco

                        @wenger-wise This is the case, the game has become boring with the classification of medals

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                        I do not know what to add I have already said everything, or passed on the information and examples by the staff of my country ... It was however so simple to limit the ranking of medals to a single account and not to the 4, and to count that the open championships ....

                        8 years of the game going up in smoke .... more fun ... thank you

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                        • timilic7T timilic7

                          I do not know what to add I have already said everything, or passed on the information and examples by the staff of my country ... It was however so simple to limit the ranking of medals to a single account and not to the 4, and to count that the open championships ....

                          8 years of the game going up in smoke .... more fun ... thank you

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                          @timilic7 Now the coaches will cut the game because of the non-existent justice and the game just wants to make money

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                          • wakil iscoW wakil isco

                            @timilic7 Now the coaches will cut the game because of the non-existent justice and the game just wants to make money

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                            @wakil-isco No need to even spend money ... 4 closed championships, against the computer, all the time .. No recruitments no friends no training camp ..... So no need to even give up money

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                              @wakil-isco No need to even spend money ... 4 closed championships, against the computer, all the time .. No recruitments no friends no training camp ..... So no need to even give up money

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                              @timilic7 But what is the goal of the game against a computer and not playing against experienced coaches? Is this because of a stupid, ignorant arrangement that has no benefit?

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                              • wakil iscoW wakil isco

                                @timilic7 But what is the goal of the game against a computer and not playing against experienced coaches? Is this because of a stupid, ignorant arrangement that has no benefit?

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                                @wakil-isco No interest, but in any case that no longer allows me to be at the top of the ranking while playing osm duels with my crew or championships against a good manager ... And leaves room at the top representing the eh we likes to the majority of average players ...
                                Who have a division and a ranking above mine in 6 months

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                                • timilic7T timilic7

                                  @wakil-isco No interest, but in any case that no longer allows me to be at the top of the ranking while playing osm duels with my crew or championships against a good manager ... And leaves room at the top representing the eh we likes to the majority of average players ...
                                  Who have a division and a ranking above mine in 6 months

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                                  @timilic7 Unfortunately, this is the reality. Now we will see what will happen when the training points are deducted, and whether the medal system will be modified

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                                  • wakil iscoW wakil isco

                                    @timilic7 Unfortunately, this is the reality. Now we will see what will happen when the training points are deducted, and whether the medal system will be modified

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                                    @wakil-isco
                                    i like the new medal system, higher ranking is harder to hold on. just the top 100 ranking gives opportunity to play private leagues in order to manipulate your ranking by easy winning your own league cause there is no competition. top 100 manager should forced to play competition tournaments or leagues by osm system randomly once per month and up to 4 slots. 🦿⚽️ so beat the AI …

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                                      A suggestion
                                      When we are defeated, the medallion points decrease, but this is not so. Isn't it too much to lose more than 1500 medal points, even if we lose 3 times what we earn from the points won against the manager, but you lose more than 10 times the winnings, when we win against a manager, we give us 88 medallion points against the team without a manager. 8 -12 points it's not fair, we can't always play against the manager team so we can win the points we lost

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                                        @kloppindakop Sure, it‘s harder to stay on top by higher degressing than progressing. i have level 10 and a loss costs me over 1500 points. you have to play constantly better to rise up and to do this you should get more variable not using just one or two formations. managers who feel better to manipulate their ranking by playing private leagues withoutcompetitioned teams you can not prevent, also when you invest money they have advantage but this is ok cause osm can not live just by advertising.
                                        the transfersystem is now harder too, of course not realistic but for gameplay more balanced. survival of the fittest forced managers to adapt their strategy, new rules, new challenge.

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                                          @kloppindakop Sure, it‘s harder to stay on top by higher degressing than progressing. i have level 10 and a loss costs me over 1500 points. you have to play constantly better to rise up and to do this you should get more variable not using just one or two formations. managers who feel better to manipulate their ranking by playing private leagues withoutcompetitioned teams you can not prevent, also when you invest money they have advantage but this is ok cause osm can not live just by advertising.
                                          the transfersystem is now harder too, of course not realistic but for gameplay more balanced. survival of the fittest forced managers to adapt their strategy, new rules, new challenge.

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                                          @tagovailoa said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                                          managers who feel better to manipulate their ranking by playing private leagues withoutcompetitioned teams you can not prevent,

                                          Yes you can prevent that. You want to play private league? You can, but no manager medals/points for that league. Also a simple fix by giving more value for beating higher ranked managers. A win vs lvl 1 or 2 manager cannot be valued the same as a win vs.lvl 9 or 10 manager. And thos bots that are used in private leagues are mainly always max lvl 5.

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