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Twilight of a Legend: Is Online Soccer Manager at the End of the Road?

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  • SpecialOneS Offline
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    SpecialOne
    wrote on last edited by
    #6

    The deals made with crews... well, there's nothing we can do.

    It's a matter of moral values. I would never sell something I earned with so much sacrifice, but this is our world these days...

    We saw recently the winner of peace Nobel prize handing it to someone else....

    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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    • JAY ZOJ Offline
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      JAY ZO
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      #7

      @SpecialOne i understand. There is only one question, regarding the players who are cheating. Why can’t you lock their accounts?

      By day: professional osm player (former member & admin of gns crew, now member of ufn), and professional 3rd half player
      By night: worker in the osm xi research department of the soccer/football research department of the sports research department of the supa top secret un detectable un destroyable research centre.

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      • SpecialOneS Offline
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        SpecialOne
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        #8

        How do you know accounts belong to them?
        If you can't prove he's the real owner, which rule did they broke?
        ....

        I won't go further to not teach them even more

        "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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        • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

          How do you know accounts belong to them?
          If you can't prove he's the real owner, which rule did they broke?
          ....

          I won't go further to not teach them even more

          Matija MD DujanM Offline
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          Matija MD Dujan
          wrote on last edited by Matija MD Dujan
          #9

          @SpecialOne When there were old crew battles accounts did not belong to same people in crew, yet we were not allowed to fix matches.. old battle system had to be stopped and changed with threats of account bans. Why cant match fixing be enough for this cheaters to be deleted or banned? Or is it normal that someone has 100:2 goal difference after 7-8 games and all teams in their league goal difference like its handball league and not a football league (after 7-8 games goal diff's in style: 55:43, 34:67 etc...)?

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          🥉 OSM World Nations Cup 2021 - 3rd place (Croatia)
          Crew: Proud to be Croat

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          • Matija MD DujanM Offline
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            Matija MD Dujan
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            #10

            One quick look at guy at number 1 in world/global ranking (his Tajikistan league + in Africa finals same opponents) and just by looking everything is clear.

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            🥉 OSM World Nations Cup 2021 - 3rd place (Croatia)
            Crew: Proud to be Croat

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            • Matija MD DujanM Offline
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              Matija MD Dujan
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              #11

              Oh yeah, Im being bit annoying with replies now but I just noticed something as well. Last couple years OSM has system where you are allocated in leagues depending on your level, so if I am level 10 manager I am mostly being thrown in league filled with level 10, 9 mangers, rarely lvl 8 ones. Yet these "professionals" on global ranking all are playing leagues filled with level 1-3 managers? How come I cannot play against such managers unless I specifically invite them in my league?

              All in all, enough proofs for those who want to tackle the situation properly 😉

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              🥉 OSM World Nations Cup 2021 - 3rd place (Croatia)
              Crew: Proud to be Croat

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              • SpecialOneS Offline
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                SpecialOne
                wrote on last edited by
                #12

                Old Crew battles: Different times, different Internet policies and more...

                If there's match fixing, rules are broken, so punishments are applied... but again, not easy to prove...
                There're out there places where cheating is taught as well as the justifications, leaving us with hands tied to apply punishments

                We need to find the moment when they make a mistake and get caught, but we can't be 24/7 on top of those users

                "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  Sorry... Won't be discussing this any further. Need to disclose things to explain and that will be just extra info for cheaters...

                  "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                    Sorry... Won't be discussing this any further. Need to disclose things to explain and that will be just extra info for cheaters...

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                    #14

                    @SpecialOne

                    Do not misunderstand me; if OSM were just an ordinary mobile app to me, I would have simply pressed the "uninstall" button and moved on with my life. However, this platform, which has been a part of my life for exactly 15 years since 2009, which stays in the back of my mind even during the busy pace of my work, and which I have made financial and emotional sacrifices to support, is more than just a game to me.
                    I thank those who built this game and those who have given us this excitement for years for their past efforts. Mine is not just a complaint, but also a call for hope. I hope these criticisms reach the right places and we can return to those green fields with our old excitement.

                    neversaynever.

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                      No misundestanding sin here and your 'complaints' are legit

                      This is what the community is here for, to enjoy the game, have fun with other players and suggest changes, provide feedback.

                      If it was non sense, I would just let it go and not react!

                      Same way as we grown all these years, OSM and everything around also grown. While everything was 'allowed' when we were a small game, nowadays being OSM this big and part of an way bigger company, every small thing is checked by hundreds of people on internet and we've to follow tons of rules we just ignored before because no one cared with that small game... Not the same anymore!

                      "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                      • JAY ZOJ Offline
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                        #16

                        @SpecialOne absolutely.
                        However let me just say @Majstor-Matt was correct. It’s fine that you don’t want to talk about it but there should be something done,
                        If you look in detail you’ll find the cheaters.

                        By day: professional osm player (former member & admin of gns crew, now member of ufn), and professional 3rd half player
                        By night: worker in the osm xi research department of the soccer/football research department of the sports research department of the supa top secret un detectable un destroyable research centre.

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                          #17

                          What if I join your league, with tons of suspicious accounts where everything will point to those accounts belong to you and are being used for you to farm medals?

                          "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                            #18

                            is there anyone here like that?!?!?!

                            By day: professional osm player (former member & admin of gns crew, now member of ufn), and professional 3rd half player
                            By night: worker in the osm xi research department of the soccer/football research department of the sports research department of the supa top secret un detectable un destroyable research centre.

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