the game engine is broken
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@Majstor-Matt said in the game engine is broken:
@SUPERNOVA-8 With the experience I ahve in countering TC's defensive style does not help a lot because they are too OP. When I use defensive stats I have lest shots and less chances to score as well. If I have played my 451 SOS here result would be even worse for me.
Best way to counter TC against a team that is still weaker in ratings vs you is to play agressive and attacking as u play usual.
What does too OP mean Matty?
For the TC scenario, I would go with a 4231 - SOS or with a 5311, 532 or even 631 with CA. Depending on my best possible combination of players.
I am surprised mate! But I respect your own experience. But then again , are you sure that in the past matches you had to face a 433 B and a camp and you beat your opponent with your offensive 343 B and without a counter camp ?
@SUPERNOVA-8 OP means overpowered
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@SUPERNOVA-8 OP means overpowered
@Suleman____f Haha, thanks Sully !
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@SUPERNOVA-8 With the experience I ahve in countering TC's defensive style does not help a lot because they are too OP. When I use defensive stats I have lest shots and less chances to score as well. If I have played my 451 SOS here result would be even worse for me.
Best way to counter TC against a team that is still weaker in ratings vs you is to play agressive and attacking as u play usual.
@Majstor-Matt And another thought... If you are positive about this strategy vs Camps ... Again I can't help but wonder what would the result be if you had used a 433B instead of a 343 B , and while having the Home advantage and probably an upgraded Pitch
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@Majstor-Matt And another thought... If you are positive about this strategy vs Camps ... Again I can't help but wonder what would the result be if you had used a 433B instead of a 343 B , and while having the Home advantage and probably an upgraded Pitch
@SUPERNOVA-8 As far as I saw so far, no use of playing defensive. And I had plenty of success defeating camps before with 343. For example, this was title fight match where he camped me and I did not use it as I had to save for Chelsea in this league :
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@SUPERNOVA-8 As far as I saw so far, no use of playing defensive. And I had plenty of success defeating camps before with 343. For example, this was title fight match where he camped me and I did not use it as I had to save for Chelsea in this league :
@Majstor-Matt But in the 442oons league, DVD was a weak club - Managers FC was the most overpowered team in the universe but i still understand your point
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@Majstor-Matt And another thought... If you are positive about this strategy vs Camps ... Again I can't help but wonder what would the result be if you had used a 433B instead of a 343 B , and while having the Home advantage and probably an upgraded Pitch
@SUPERNOVA-8 But there is no point in all this. This game becomes more and more luck orientated as every day passes. And that is a fact. And this pay to win stuff is also increasing with every day. They have chosen that path for the game and we managers cannot do anything about it, no wonder many legends that had such superior tactics in past left the game. There is simply no point in playing this game competitively anymore.
New ranking system is cherry on top of the cake for my statement. Basically you can open account, boost it with plenty of coins and you will enter top 100 managers in world in 6 months If you have enough IQ in your head. Thats a sad fact.
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@Majstor-Matt But in the 442oons league, DVD was a weak club - Managers FC was the most overpowered team in the universe but i still understand your point
@Suleman____f I had same quality advantage in both other cases. I always do because my main forte is squad building and as long as the opponents do not use ridiculous amount of BC's they cannot keep up easilly with me.
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@SUPERNOVA-8 - I think you have a point, going all out attack or offensive every game is risky. I'd either use a training camp against a training camp or go super defensive tbh. Also, I myself, don't expect to win every game and if i lose a game or draw an easy game against a weak club , I take the advice from commentators or stats themself from the match and improve them. It's not a big deal if you lose! You learn from your mistakes and/or failures!
@Suleman____f It is a big deal if you lose to a computer in the cup semi-final and freakin MESSI'S missed penalty in the penalty shootout loses you the game, when you are the only manger left in the cup and the cup is literally being handed to you and you already are in first place in the league!
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@SUPERNOVA-8 But there is no point in all this. This game becomes more and more luck orientated as every day passes. And that is a fact. And this pay to win stuff is also increasing with every day. They have chosen that path for the game and we managers cannot do anything about it, no wonder many legends that had such superior tactics in past left the game. There is simply no point in playing this game competitively anymore.
New ranking system is cherry on top of the cake for my statement. Basically you can open account, boost it with plenty of coins and you will enter top 100 managers in world in 6 months If you have enough IQ in your head. Thats a sad fact.
My English is not very good, I use a translator, so I don't usually write in this forum, so excuse me.
I completely agree with Majstor Matt, the game evolves in a way and that has led to the abandonment of many people, some very good managers ... others we follow for friendships.
I have been eight years, I have been in several groups of the Spanish Community and in the Spanish Staff, and I think I know the game and the forums. I think that managers should be able to express our discomfort in the forum and be able to say what changes we like and which we don't. And if we do not like to eliminate the symbol of the game (doerak) or the modifications in the engine, which have been made, we can do it without being questioned. They are constructive criticisms, because the game had more personality with doerak, and the difficulty in winning was adequate, it did not depend so much on the luck factor, or on the time you have been using a tactic. Earlier you lost because the opponent found how to counter you, not by engine decision.Thanks.
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@SUPERNOVA-8 As far as I saw so far, no use of playing defensive. And I had plenty of success defeating camps before with 343. For example, this was title fight match where he camped me and I did not use it as I had to save for Chelsea in this league :
@Majstor-Matt said in the game engine is broken:
@SUPERNOVA-8 As far as I saw so far, no use of playing defensive. And I had plenty of success defeating camps before with 343. For example, this was title fight match where he camped me and I did not use it as I had to save for Chelsea in this league :
I thought you were going to show us a screen shot of a winning match with your 343. What is the ( minus ) - 1 that I see here Matty?
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@Majstor-Matt said in the game engine is broken:
@SUPERNOVA-8 As far as I saw so far, no use of playing defensive. And I had plenty of success defeating camps before with 343. For example, this was title fight match where he camped me and I did not use it as I had to save for Chelsea in this league :
I thought you were going to show us a screen shot of a winning match with your 343. What is the ( minus ) - 1 that I see here Matty?
@SUPERNOVA-8 - Matty won 3-1 its scrolled sideways to show the training camp pic
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@SUPERNOVA-8 - Matty won 3-1 its scrolled sideways to show the training camp pic
@Suleman____f ahhh, you're right Sully. I saw it now, on his results. Thanks mate!
@Majstor-Matt Thanks Matty !
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@Suleman____f It is a big deal if you lose to a computer in the cup semi-final and freakin MESSI'S missed penalty in the penalty shootout loses you the game, when you are the only manger left in the cup and the cup is literally being handed to you and you already are in first place in the league!
(That's what happened to me)@uchenna-a said in the game engine is broken:
@Suleman____f It is a big deal if you lose to a computer in the cup semi-final and freakin MESSI'S missed penalty in the penalty shootout loses you the game, when you are the only manger left in the cup and the cup is literally being handed to you and you already are in first place in the league!
(That's what happened to me)@uchenna-a - You win some you lose some. I don't understand why you believe you would win every game! The Computer isn't stupid tbh, If im honest, i wouldn't underestimate AI.
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@uchenna-a said in the game engine is broken:
@Suleman____f It is a big deal if you lose to a computer in the cup semi-final and freakin MESSI'S missed penalty in the penalty shootout loses you the game, when you are the only manger left in the cup and the cup is literally being handed to you and you already are in first place in the league!
(That's what happened to me)@uchenna-a - You win some you lose some. I don't understand why you believe you would win every game! The Computer isn't stupid tbh, If im honest, i wouldn't underestimate AI.
@Suleman____f I never did say I believe I should win every game. No one wins every game. The computer isn't stupid, but if you look back at my post you will see why I was frustrated.
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My English is not very good, I use a translator, so I don't usually write in this forum, so excuse me.
I completely agree with Majstor Matt, the game evolves in a way and that has led to the abandonment of many people, some very good managers ... others we follow for friendships.
I have been eight years, I have been in several groups of the Spanish Community and in the Spanish Staff, and I think I know the game and the forums. I think that managers should be able to express our discomfort in the forum and be able to say what changes we like and which we don't. And if we do not like to eliminate the symbol of the game (doerak) or the modifications in the engine, which have been made, we can do it without being questioned. They are constructive criticisms, because the game had more personality with doerak, and the difficulty in winning was adequate, it did not depend so much on the luck factor, or on the time you have been using a tactic. Earlier you lost because the opponent found how to counter you, not by engine decision.Thanks.
@jacobs I'm sorry but what does the Doerak have to do with our conversation here? Do not worry about your English mate and you are always free to express your personal opinion. Everybody is and must do this as long as we talk with respect to each other.
But your post belongs to the other topic, not on this one.
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@jacobs I'm sorry but what does the Doerak have to do with our conversation here? Do not worry about your English mate and you are always free to express your personal opinion. Everybody is and must do this as long as we talk with respect to each other.
But your post belongs to the other topic, not on this one.@SUPERNOVA-8 I think he was providing an example (doerak) for his reasoning.
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@SUPERNOVA-8 I think he was providing an example (doerak) for his reasoning.
@uchenna-a Guess you're right, but guys please let's not mix things up. We have a different topic about Doerak or the new Staff characters.
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@uchenna-a said in the game engine is broken:
@Suleman____f It is a big deal if you lose to a computer in the cup semi-final and freakin MESSI'S missed penalty in the penalty shootout loses you the game, when you are the only manger left in the cup and the cup is literally being handed to you and you already are in first place in the league!
(That's what happened to me)@uchenna-a - You win some you lose some. I don't understand why you believe you would win every game! The Computer isn't stupid tbh, If im honest, i wouldn't underestimate AI.
@Suleman____f said in the game engine is broken:
@uchenna-a - You win some you lose some. I don't understand why you believe you would win every game! The Computer isn't stupid tbh, If im honest, i wouldn't underestimate AI.
Sully I couldn't agree more with you. I always use my Spy , even when facing the CPU as my next opponent. Sometimes it uses ridiculous tactics but there were times that it used brilliant ones and was a teaching lesson for me.
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@jacobs I'm sorry but what does the Doerak have to do with our conversation here? Do not worry about your English mate and you are always free to express your personal opinion. Everybody is and must do this as long as we talk with respect to each other.
But your post belongs to the other topic, not on this one.@SUPERNOVA-8
The topic engine is discussed here, the last modification of the engine is a change that was made by surprise, like that of doerak, which I used here as another example.I can repeat the part related to the engine, but I think it is better to read it in the previous post.
The fact is that the engine values too much outside the tactics, such as luck or the time you have been using your tactics. And that I think should be corrected.
But what has made me write here has been rather to see how it seems that such opinions are not accepted and seeks to divert the criticism with some impairment to the creator of the subject. I don't think it's necessary to chase someone for expressing their opinion and criticizing, in a polite and constructive way, something about the game.
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@SUPERNOVA-8
The topic engine is discussed here, the last modification of the engine is a change that was made by surprise, like that of doerak, which I used here as another example.I can repeat the part related to the engine, but I think it is better to read it in the previous post.
The fact is that the engine values too much outside the tactics, such as luck or the time you have been using your tactics. And that I think should be corrected.
But what has made me write here has been rather to see how it seems that such opinions are not accepted and seeks to divert the criticism with some impairment to the creator of the subject. I don't think it's necessary to chase someone for expressing their opinion and criticizing, in a polite and constructive way, something about the game.
