[AUTHORIZED] Balkan Winter Cup - Individual Championship of Balkan

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@IvanAndal

We want to be fair and we don't want to protect your manager who has made such a big mistake

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Danteus

And this, my friends, how Yugoslavia dissolved

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@IvanAndal said in [AUTHORIZED] Balkan Winter Cup - Individual Championship of Balkan:

@Danteus said in [AUTHORIZED] Balkan Winter Cup - Individual Championship of Balkan:

When is new championship going to start. Put me on the waiting list

Stack up as many manager points and battle points as you can and see you in the second edition arouns next Christmass

My dearest Ivan I have only respect for you personally.
I am well aware how much you wished for the Balkan event to become a success ( so did I buddy ) but I'm afraid ( as all of us have witnessed already ) that things are not going well on this topic. No positive vibes, neither any friendly interaction , nor civilized behavior as expected from full grown up fellow managers. It is just a game , supposed to bring fun , not only to each participant but also to the rest of the OSM Community which follows your news in here. Peace and pleasure are not part of this event guys. I must say I am deeply disappointed about it. I'm very sorry to say this to you and the rest of managers Ivan , but I don't see a second edition as an option for next winter.
Unless... people start immediately acting in a way that honors themselves, OSM and our International forum.

Note: I am not blaming you personally Ivan for any of these unfortunate situations which occured in here. You cannot control every single reaction on your own , I know that mate.
Each manager and event participant has his own free will , mind and responsibility of any decisions or actions.

SUPERNOVA 8

@JetonT said in [AUTHORIZED] Balkan Winter Cup - Individual Championship of Balkan:

Won first game, not sure If I should leave or stay and beat all of you just like your friends in semi finals? I think some of you don't deserve to play against manager like me.

Definitely not an example of a good old friendly banter... Right Jeton ? Even if you were the No 1 manager in skills and tactics on OSM , nothing whatsoever gives you the right to insult or provoke other managers in this rude and arrogant manner ! 🤨

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@Ado-Hackovic Ado tell me please mate. What am I supposed to do with your upvote? Does it help me as a Forum Mod ? Does it help the well being of this topic in any way? If I'm right , it was your wrong choice for a forum signature in the first place that fired up all these conflicts. Correct? Huge mistake if you ask me mate , even though you changed it ( thank you for that ), the damage was unfortunately already done!

SUPERNOVA 8

Guys seriously if you really like this game and wish to please me, yourselves and everyone else here , will you for goodness sake start enjoying this first Balkan event and have fun ?

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@Danteus said in [AUTHORIZED] Balkan Winter Cup - Individual Championship of Balkan:

And this, my friends, how Yugoslavia dissolved

Lmao, I agree with you.

JetonT.

@SUPERNOVA-8 Im sorry dear Supernova, Its just im just pissed how Ivan managed this situation. We could had great event if he would remove that guy. He all know that he started this...

SUPERNOVA 8

@JetonT Jeton as you can see I know the whole story. Ado apologized to me and to others for his signature and changed it for the sake of this event. I know you were pissed off mate but can we please leave all this behind and move on in a more positive way ?

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P.S Guys please stop blaming Ivan for everything ! He is only the event's organizer , not the legal guardian of every other participant in here. It is so unfair to attack him this way all the time. Both sides made mistakes , accept it and let's move on please !

IvanAndal

Hi @SUPERNOVA-8 . Thanks for your support and insight. I spent sp much time and energy while organising this, i hoped everything will go as smooth as possible, but as you can see there will always be people who will turn everything into politics.
What I've been saying all a long to all the 'sides', I'm a very apolitical person, I don't follow politics, I couldn't care less about political situations in any country and among anyone. It has nothing to do woth OSM and it has no place here. What I care about are the rules of the tournament. Anyone who doesnt want to follow the rules of the tournament cant be a part of it. On the other hand for those who argue about politics on this forum there are people who can take certain actions to make them follow the rules of the forum.
To be completely honest, this is exactly what I have expected of the first season. I knew there will be people who will not be willing to follow the rules, and i hoped to filter out those people in the forst season so that in the following editions the tournament could be played fairly and properly.
I must say that I've been under a lot of pressure from a group of people who kept threthening me from the very begining that they will bojkot the competition if I dont organise it in the way it suits them. I stood my ground and didnt allow them to extort anything pf me and now I know who are those people who are not to be allowed to compete in for the sake of all the others. If there will be another edition of the tournament, I'm positive that there will not be these kinds of incidents.

And as for this edition, I hope, moreover, I'm pretty certain that everything will go according to plan

Danteus

I wouldn't try to deny anyone of making their comments here, some solid discussion would be "healthy" for future sake of this event. It would be complete disaster to ban this certain event because of the political matter that has occurred. What I would propose to people that organize these kind of events is to put clear, strict rules about using, discussing political subjects that are flamable in Balkans nations, including any kind of controversial historic persona, event, motto, historical iconography that promotes fascism, nationalism, that calls or was being used to call for extermination, killing, bashing, discriminating people, or group of people etc. You get the point here. Personal opinions on some current and past political events at the Balkans should stay PERSONAL. Anyone not complying to those rules should be cut off in the start. If someone here would dare to defend controversial events - on forums of sport game - these a line should be made, and everything about this halted. Politics ruin sport. Thank you @SUPERNOVA-8 for being good sport, and politely moderating this topic. I'm sure next event would be even better. People learn on their mistakes.

Alexandar Blumenshtil

@Danteus said in [AUTHORIZED] Balkan Winter Cup - Individual Championship of Balkan:

I wouldn't try to deny anyone of making their comments here, some solid discussion would be "healthy" for future sake of this event. It would be complete disaster to ban this certain event because of the political matter that has occurred. What I would propose to people that organize these kind of events is to put clear, strict rules about using, discussing political subjects that are flamable in Balkans nations, including any kind of controversial historic persona, event, motto, historical iconography that promotes fascism, nationalism, that calls or was being used to call for extermination, killing, bashing, discriminating people, or group of people etc. You get the point here. Personal opinions on some current and past political events at the Balkans should stay PERSONAL. Anyone not complying to those rules should be cut off in the start. If someone here would dare to defend controversial events - on forums of sport game - these a line should be made, and everything about this halted. Politics ruin sport. Thank you @SUPERNOVA-8 for being good sport, and politely moderating this topic. I'm sure next event would be even better. People learn on their mistakes.

Bravo!!! I completely agree with you .. no need to mix politics and sports (in our case a game called 'OSM').
And I agree that anyone in their profile (by the rules of the forum, which I understand, may write in their own language) has something political, fascist and similar, should immediately react, warn and eliminate a potential problem that may turn out ...
In general, @IvanAndal is put here to shoot from all sides, and he is neither a mom nor a dad to all these people so that he can educate them how to behave, or how to be raised, and some are obviously raised in hatred, and that's not the place here , at least not participate in the BWC they applied for.
Everything can be solved, the normal way .. but only if there is a positive desire from all sides ... but yes, I agree, the first is the tournament, a lot of things are not working properly, but everything was fine until the policy was included in the all this, the stubbornness of the players and, above all, the disrespect for the forum, the organization and @IvanAndal himself who started all this on his own, and this is his gratitude for everything he started ?! But I know it will get better and better next season if those who need to allow it allow it. And my suggestion, of course, is that some of the administrators might be more actively involved in all of this, so that they have the correct insight into the regularity and fair competition that we plan to be.
Sports greetings!

bearded conte

I didn't want to reply haha but cmon guys don't create melodrama here, some of the guys here writing how situation should be are exactly these guys who up-voted people who offended here so please stop talking how is should be cuz I think we are all grown ups to know how we have to react on situation like this. Politics shouldn't have place here and the organised should have reacted on it and disqualify him. We are not talking here to take care about someone or something so move on. Hope the best one will win this tournament. Peace dudes.

festimi17

@bearded-conte I see that now they are trying to victimized theirself and protect their player but the mod knows exactly who was the responsible for this, so i hope this not will repeated again in next event. See you in next battle champ

Alexandar Blumenshtil

@bearded-conte Dude...
please ... we all know here that your reaction was deliberate and this had nothing to do with BWC and the competition ... he wrote what he wrote on HIS PROFILE and it had nothing to do with the competition .. .we, because of your 'stuff', were supposed to ignore you all and boycott you all, looking at your profiles and crews ... so please don't act innocent to me and you could start growing up by yourself..

bearded conte

@Alexandar-Blumenshtil hahahaha why so nervous dude! Calm down and chillout

Markez17

Ok, we have a lot of posts with penalties and offtopic but...
How is running the final league? Any update of league table?

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@Markez17 Yeap, here it is.