OSM WC 2020 Edition
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@KoningCo I understand you viewpoint, at the moment nobody who got WC invitation let me know that this new date it's a problem for him/her.
Managers who are fighting for a place usually save a slot for this event, anyway I sent the invitation 8/6 and 1st Round starts 25/6... You all have more than two weeks to have a free slot if you want to play WC and receive the invitation!
If someone consider that four leagues he/she is playing at this moment is more important that play WC... They can refuse the invitation, it's not a problem. -
WC 2020 qualification period
Some managers are asking me about a crewmate or friend who got more or less same points than him/her and the crewmate got a place but he/she didn't.
Just to inform you all, I find in the WC list was provided to me in order to check accounts, points are the sum between 1st December (Not 14th December) and 31st May.
It means that those manager who end a league between 1st December and 14th December counts too for them in order to qualify to WC 2020 edition.First of all, of course... SORRY! I just find 7-8 cases of managers who have those "extra points", most of them got a place with or without that. Not a huge impact on the list but of course I'm going to adjust it and talk with affected managers if it's needed to let them know the situation and procedure.
Thank you to those manager who contacted with me and, after discuss it, we find the "issue". Let's keep working and I'm going to find a solution to not prejudice nobody.
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@Markez17 said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:
156 WC invitations
How many points were required to qualify for this top 156? I see that there were less than 150 applications in this topic.
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@Markez17 said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:
WC 2020 qualification period
Some managers are asking me about a crewmate or friend who got more or less same points than him/her and the crewmate got a place but he/she didn't.
Just to inform you all, I find in the WC list was provided to me in order to check accounts, points are the sum between 1st December (Not 14th December) and 31st May.
It means that those manager who end a league between 1st December and 14th December counts too for them in order to qualify to WC 2020 edition.First of all, of course... SORRY! I just find 7-8 cases of managers who have those "extra points", most of them got a place with or without that. Not a huge impact on the list but of course I'm going to adjust it and talk with affected managers if it's needed to let them know the situation and procedure.
Thank you to those manager who contacted with me and, after discuss it, we find the "issue". Let's keep working and I'm going to find a solution to not prejudice nobody.
Update
Gamebasics provided me a new list, we try to compare both and see the impact.
Because I understand someone can say this is an unfair thing if we keep using the 1st list...During today/tomorrow:
- WC invitation message will be send to those managers who appear in the 152 first places who didn't receive it yesterday.
- Manager who receive the invitation with the 1st list, confirm the place and now they keep having the place, will receive one message to confirm it and they don't need to do nothing.
- Manager who receive the invitation with the 1st list but now are in sub places with the correct list, will receive a message too to inform about the situation and give them my apologies, they can accep the sub role or decline the invitation, I understand it.
During this week:
- Subs places who didn't receive yet a message, will get it!
If someone isn't agree about get the correct list and use it in order to play WC edition or just want to criticize me due to his/her routine... Please, let me know and I give you my Events Manager place.
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I don't understand much about your communication. Why did we have to post our results here? I thought you would select the best managers who posted here, but apparently you receive a list from OSM and approach the best 156 managers in the game and ask them if they want to play the World Cup?
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@KoningCo said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:
Why did we have to post our results here?
this is a forum, so the aim is to create a kind of dialogue between users
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@KoningCo OSM always had lists infront in order to see who were the managers who collected the most points in certain period. Why would only people who post be able to play? Not everyone uses the forum so It would not be fair that only those ones who post can play.
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Good morning!
Just some points to clarify more the situation:
- 1st list seems to get points recollected from 1/12/2019 to 31/05/2020, something wrong. At first point, I think about keep wroking with the list and make minor changes.
- I can't get the WC manager list without help, Gamebasics must provide me always.
- Looking that some managers weren't agree (I understand it) and after receive the correct list, with points from 14/12/2019 to 31/05/2020, I spend all my time to compare both list, fix it and have the list 100% checked and send messages to all managers affected and new entries. (208 private messages if you want to know the number)
At this moment, everything is fine but some people keep pushing me and criticizing because they (Or a friend) don't have a place. We have the correct list, we have the same WC period and everyone wants to play but we have limited places.
Please, think twice before spamming or insulting me because I organize events for all of you, I don't win nothing with it and each time I feel I'm wasting my time because nobody recognize the effort and they think can do it better but I don't see no one prove it.PS: Yes, I read WC local topics in different communities too
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@Markez17 hello manuel, every year you do a great job .. and i know the effort it takes behind a tournament! it is exhausting. a "little mistake / inattention" (which is human!) cannot judge your punctuality and professionalism.
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First of all, I got a message from Markez17 that I got a place to play World Cup 2020. One day later I got message from him that "I got a place in WC with a wrong list provided.
After get the correct one and check differences... I lose my place and I am a sub now."So when I calculate again my manager points on my first slot :
Between 1th December and 31st May
I have 44.365 points
Between 14th December and 31st May
I have 37.350 points.
As I know, minimum requirements to qualify was 35.000 manager points. How come did I lost my place and I am in sub position now ? Can you please explain me ? @Markez17
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@wrathfulone said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:
As I know, minimum requirements to qualify was 35.000 manager points. How come did I lost my place and I am in sub position now ? Can you please explain me ? @Markez17
You are not into the 156 first managers with those points between 14/12/2019 and 31/05/2020.
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Alright, did not know the minimum manager points to qualify depends on others managers's points. As you mentioned earlier, I thought minimum was the 35.000 points.
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@wrathfulone Each year this minimum has increased because more managers got aware of this competition and the qualifying period so people are calculating better their finishing dates of the leagues. A few years ago I qualified to the WC with only 25-28k points, now with 37k we both are substitutions. Hopefully we will get there!
@Markez17 - please ignore the mean or the not very well educated people who don't understand your voluntary effort and the fact that you received a wrong list from the beginning. I think that people who don't understand that and continue to be mean should be excluded from the list because they are not fair-play and so they don't deserve to be in the competition.
Your work is really appreciated Manuel!
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@raul_alessio said in OSM WC 2020 Edition:
..... I think that people who don't understand that and continue to be mean should be excluded from the list.....
.... now with 37k we both are substitutions.....
It looks to me that you just want to get your place on the competition
"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill
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@raul_alessio Hopefully !
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@SpecialOne I would love to play especially because I missed the last two years I believe, but no...that's not why I said that.
In the last 6 years I've been organizing or at least helped organize all Romanian competitions so I know how it feels like to be criticized without a real reason.
Manuel is doing a fantastic job and those who don't see it or understand that, don't really deserve to be among the worlds best players. True characters are shown in difficult moments like these!
It's like VAR support in football. You may have scored, but if the camera shows it wasn't correct (like the first list Manuel received), you have to accept the cancellation with dignity. Yes, we feel sorry for you, but we can't go on with a mistake.
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@raul_alessio I know, was just teasing you.
In fact I'm the one to blame for the wrong list. Completely forgot to adjust the filter to 14th December.
I've picked 4/5 random users from the list and manually checked the totals, they matched. all fine. I didn't selected anyone with leagues that ended before 14th.
"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill
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@SpecialOne #hatsoff for owning the blame and taking the responsibility!
