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  • jeffro daviesJ Offline
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    We been searching for a battle since Sunday the 20th October. It’s now Thursday 24th! Eagles of Kosovo (in 9th) started 2 battles today, Luso (in 7th and TURK (in 6th). How do we miss all these crews? We’ve only looked at the crews near us that have been ending and sure we missed loads more. I don’t really think it’s fair being punished for being in 2nd and having played less battles than loads of crews round us

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      Very impressive @bearded-conte
      Especially the bit where we’re waiting for 2 battles (one 10days and one 4days) and 4th in the ranking gets a battle against 23rd with 2,412 medals/battlepoints difference.

      IDAS in 2nd and the 4th rank crew difference in medals is only 1328 and we was searching when they got matched. How is this fair matching?

      Who sorts these battles out because this is just one valid point out of many that these battles are not being matched fair? Could someone who knows how the matching works please PM me or post on here. I feel our crew isn’t getting a fair roll of the dice and these statistics prove that.

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      • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

        We been searching for a battle since Sunday the 20th October. It’s now Thursday 24th! Eagles of Kosovo (in 9th) started 2 battles today, Luso (in 7th and TURK (in 6th). How do we miss all these crews? We’ve only looked at the crews near us that have been ending and sure we missed loads more. I don’t really think it’s fair being punished for being in 2nd and having played less battles than loads of crews round us

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        @jeffro-davies 😅😅😅

        نانسي عجرم

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        • نااانسي عجرمن نااانسي عجرم

          @jeffro-davies 😅😅😅

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          @نااانسي-عجرم 😂whats that about?

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          • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

            @نااانسي-عجرم 😂whats that about?

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            @jeffro-davies
            You said that you are punished by being on top 😂😂
            I like you description 💔

            نانسي عجرم

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            • نااانسي عجرمن نااانسي عجرم

              @jeffro-davies
              You said that you are punished by being on top 😂😂
              I like you description 💔

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              @نااانسي-عجرم thank you👍🏻

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                I stumbled upon this topic and now I'm a bit intrigued too. My crew regularely get opponents from top 20 (my last opponents are 15th), while we are around 70th place, that 2000+ bp difference. It doesn't seem like an equal level to me, unless everyone in the 3000bp range is equal, in that case seems like most of top 100 can play randomly. 🤔 Just a piece of my mind, thats all.

                🇭🇷Captain of the CROATIA national team and 3rd placed on the first ever Nations Cup tournament 🇭🇷

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                • IvanAndalI IvanAndal

                  I stumbled upon this topic and now I'm a bit intrigued too. My crew regularely get opponents from top 20 (my last opponents are 15th), while we are around 70th place, that 2000+ bp difference. It doesn't seem like an equal level to me, unless everyone in the 3000bp range is equal, in that case seems like most of top 100 can play randomly. 🤔 Just a piece of my mind, thats all.

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                  @IvanAndal it’s really is shockingly bad, we only have 2 battles at the minute. One of our teams has been searching for over a week! Another ready to search soon as they find one. Nobody could care less about trying to give an explanation how it works. Sophie has tried (thank you btw)but obviously doesn’t know. Me and Ermal have proven that these battles are not getting matched up fairly, we are seeing crews just below us getting crews lower ranked while we have been searching. It’s not just the odd battle, it’s loads now and very laughable. I wouldn’t mind but we’re not even 1st and don’t have a big lead on other crews! Nobody can or will tell us

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                  • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                    @IvanAndal it’s really is shockingly bad, we only have 2 battles at the minute. One of our teams has been searching for over a week! Another ready to search soon as they find one. Nobody could care less about trying to give an explanation how it works. Sophie has tried (thank you btw)but obviously doesn’t know. Me and Ermal have proven that these battles are not getting matched up fairly, we are seeing crews just below us getting crews lower ranked while we have been searching. It’s not just the odd battle, it’s loads now and very laughable. I wouldn’t mind but we’re not even 1st and don’t have a big lead on other crews! Nobody can or will tell us

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                    @jeffro-davies @HBlauzahn @bearded-conte @نااانسي-عجرم @IvanAndal

                    Hello everybody . 🙂 First of all I would like to thank you all for your posts.

                    Jeffy like you said already and thank you for that, I have tried to help you guys out with everything there is known about the CB matching. I believe though I missed mentioning one detail about it.
                    You have to know that only one battle team at a time should be set on search for a match making.
                    For example : if your crew has already 2 battles ongoing then you should start searching for a third battle with only one team, wait for the engine to find your 3rd opponent and afterwards proceed to your 4th attempt.

                    As for the exact ranges of the match making , could you guys make your suggestions about them ?
                    Because Jeffy as you could see from Ivan's post while you find it hard to have 4 crew battles at the same time, others complain about the range difference of their own battles and find the match making unfair.
                    So could we please talk about it and share opinions and thoughts about this matter here ?

                    Question : Which range do you guys think would be ideal , fair and work best for all crews ? Meaning difference in Medals ( +/- ) between crews to be matched for an upcoming battle.

                    “Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
                    Sophia ~ Salonica ~ Greece ~ 💙🤍💙

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                      @jeffro-davies @HBlauzahn @bearded-conte @نااانسي-عجرم @IvanAndal

                      Hello everybody . 🙂 First of all I would like to thank you all for your posts.

                      Jeffy like you said already and thank you for that, I have tried to help you guys out with everything there is known about the CB matching. I believe though I missed mentioning one detail about it.
                      You have to know that only one battle team at a time should be set on search for a match making.
                      For example : if your crew has already 2 battles ongoing then you should start searching for a third battle with only one team, wait for the engine to find your 3rd opponent and afterwards proceed to your 4th attempt.

                      As for the exact ranges of the match making , could you guys make your suggestions about them ?
                      Because Jeffy as you could see from Ivan's post while you find it hard to have 4 crew battles at the same time, others complain about the range difference of their own battles and find the match making unfair.
                      So could we please talk about it and share opinions and thoughts about this matter here ?

                      Question : Which range do you guys think would be ideal , fair and work best for all crews ? Meaning difference in Medals ( +/- ) between crews to be matched for an upcoming battle.

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                      @SUPERNOVA-8

                      Answer to your example:-
                      We’re only searching one at a time Sophie mate. Soon as one is found out our last team will start searching ASAP. That’s how we have been doing it, I even booted someone yesterday and started searching again with just the one team as we didn’t find a crew in over a week.

                      As for examples to search I’m unsure, we only watch crews in the top 10 when their battles reset hoping we get one of them and haven’t looked past the top 10ranked and somehow they’re missing us and playing lower ranked crews. I’m sure they would love to play us instead and a chance to catch up.

                      Think the top 10 should be done slightly different to be honest. For example 2k medals difference to lower ranked crews can get a lot higher ranked and jump lots of places in searching. But 2k difference in the top 10 is isn’t much at all between the higher ranked crews. So maybe top 10 searching could be done differently (from 1st to 10th is over 2.5k battlepoints difference at the minute.

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                        I would really like other lower ranked crews opinions on this. I’m sure they would like to play higher ranked crews? Or would they rather play crews close to them?

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                        • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                          I would really like other lower ranked crews opinions on this. I’m sure they would like to play higher ranked crews? Or would they rather play crews close to them?

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                          @jeffro-davies So would I mate... You just hit the nail with your 1 M. 💵 question. 😉 The more opinions we'll get from managers from each crew level , the merrier.

                          “Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
                          Sophia ~ Salonica ~ Greece ~ 💙🤍💙

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                          • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                            I would really like other lower ranked crews opinions on this. I’m sure they would like to play higher ranked crews? Or would they rather play crews close to them?

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                            @jeffro-davies Our view is to match the battles by taking into account the rankings of the teams instead of the medal difference in team battles.

                            For example; Teams between the first and tenth place should be able to easily match each other when they seek a battle.

                            If the teams between the first and tenth places do not have a seek a battle, then there may be a match, taking into account the difference in medals with the other teams.

                            While we were in the first place in my old team, we had problems in this regard.

                            Osm Volunteer (27.03.2020 - 19.05.2022)

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                              Another idea is to forget about the medals completely and have searching done on rank

                              1st-25th get matched together
                              26th- 50th etc....

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                                @jeffro-davies Our view is to match the battles by taking into account the rankings of the teams instead of the medal difference in team battles.

                                For example; Teams between the first and tenth place should be able to easily match each other when they seek a battle.

                                If the teams between the first and tenth places do not have a seek a battle, then there may be a match, taking into account the difference in medals with the other teams.

                                While we were in the first place in my old team, we had problems in this regard.

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                                @RevengeisComing completely agree, I posted before reading this

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                                • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                                  Another idea is to forget about the medals completely and have searching done on rank

                                  1st-25th get matched together
                                  26th- 50th etc....

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                                  @jeffro-davies said in Official battles searching......:

                                  Another idea is to forget about the medals completely and have searching done on rank

                                  1st-25th get matched together
                                  26th- 50th etc....

                                  Good at that idea.

                                  Osm Volunteer (27.03.2020 - 19.05.2022)

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                                  • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                                    Another idea is to forget about the medals completely and have searching done on rank

                                    1st-25th get matched together
                                    26th- 50th etc....

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                                    @jeffro-davies I don't think that this should be the only factor which decides about one's upcoming opponent. If we want to have a fair and reasonable matchmaking, we have to consider the current win streak of a crew. Crews with equal or almost equal win streaks (+/- 1 or 2) should be able to play against each other WITHIN an extended medal range, e.g. 5k.

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                                    • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                                      Another idea is to forget about the medals completely and have searching done on rank

                                      1st-25th get matched together
                                      26th- 50th etc....

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                                      @jeffro-davies agree 😉

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                                      • Hafti AbiH Hafti Abi

                                        @jeffro-davies I don't think that this should be the only factor which decides about one's upcoming opponent. If we want to have a fair and reasonable matchmaking, we have to consider the current win streak of a crew. Crews with equal or almost equal win streaks (+/- 1 or 2) should be able to play against each other WITHIN an extended medal range, e.g. 5k.

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                                        @Hafti-Abi I really like that idea Angus. Might be abit complicated for whoever sorts the matching crew battles though mate

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                                        • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                                          Another idea is to forget about the medals completely and have searching done on rank

                                          1st-25th get matched together
                                          26th- 50th etc....

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                                          On the one hand i oftenly use the saying 'to be the best you need to best the best', meaning I personally like playing against tougher opponents, but on the other hand I must say that a lot of my teammates disagree with that, they get demotivated when we constantly get matched with higher placed team (out of our last 6 battles at least 4 of them have been against top 20 crews, we are around 70th place). I agree with the matchmsking system which @jeffro-davies proposed (1st-25th, 26th - 50th etc) or something similar. It would be similar to Nations League groups in real life.

                                          P.S. Unrelated to the topic, but I'll ask anyway. Are there any plans to introduce official crew competitions such as unnofficial WCC or like Nations League in real life. I find this current battle system a bit monotonus, it's just one battle after another, endlessly and always the same, people get complecent with time...

                                          🇭🇷Captain of the CROATIA national team and 3rd placed on the first ever Nations Cup tournament 🇭🇷

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