the game engine is broken
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@Bahadır-K Since when that's a garantee for a win?
Having 15 shots on goal doesn't mean that they are going in the goal.
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@Suleman____f I said only 1 loss in their last 50 premier league games, not including Uefa champions league since those are against teams from other leagues. I mentioned the 1 loss because you said "Do you see any other team winning every single game in the prem"
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@uchenna-a - Still can be compared to english teams tho. For example Barcelona is Man City etc
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@Suleman____f I really understand what you mean. What do you mean by Barcelona is Man City?
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@uchenna-a said in the game engine is broken:
Also, I lost 4-0 at home to Zenit St Petersburg while playing with Dynamo Moscow. My team had almost 200 million more squad value and I had won the first match 1-0 at their home. I used the same tactics I used in the first game but I lost 4-0 even though Zenit did not have a training camp and their tactics hadn't changed since I had won 1-0 against them. They were a managed team, and My morale and fitness were all 95 and higher. ABSOLUTELY unrealistic.
@uchenna-a - You can't just say that's an instant win, anything can happen in the game.
Online Soccer Manager is my game but don't worry I'll get the fame you'll burn in flames
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@uchenna-a if you compare a foreign club to an english club, they're on similar levels tbh
Online Soccer Manager is my game but don't worry I'll get the fame you'll burn in flames
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@Suleman____f I didn't say it was an instant win tho.
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@Suleman____f I guess it depends on what English team and foreign team you are comparing.
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@uchenna-a said in the game engine is broken:
@Suleman____f I didn't say it was an instant win tho.
@uchenna-a - Its cuz you said 'absolutely unrealistic' so i assumed you thought you'd get an instant win.
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@Suleman____f I was talking about my example of my 4-0 loss against Zenit St Petersburg when managing Dynamo Moscow and I listed why it was unrealistic.
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@uchenna-a - Tbh just cuz you beat someone in a league once, doesn't mean you'd beat em again. I beat my mate 5-0 in a league match and when we met again, i lost 4-1 but had 2 players sent off. BUT i get your point.
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@Suleman____f It just really pissed me off because the other team hadn't gotten better or used new tactics from the game I beat them at their home. They didn't have a training camp or any new players, and I didn't get any bookings and I lost 4-0
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@uchenna-a said in the game engine is broken:
@Suleman____f It just really pissed me off because the other team hadn't gotten better or used new tactics from the game I beat them at their home. They didn't have a training camp or any new players, and I didn't get any bookings and I lost 4-0
this is my major issue with the game. the managers don't have, in theory, anything that can boost them up and still they end up beating bigger teams with ridiculous scorelines, in real life that just does not happen as often as it does in this game. the engine has this rock-paper-scissors thing where some tactics are just useless against others, regardless of the team's value. it's a joke
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@peenagees Yeah I agree. Sometimes small teams beat big teams, but it just happens so much in OSM that it is ridiculous. The game engine is so random, and I know this may be hard to improve, but I think something needs to be changed with this absolute trash, terrible, and broken game engine.
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@peenagees Also I think tactics impact on whether you win or get trashed is just too big and ridiculous in OSM. Even though tactics have a large impact in real life when two teams of similar quality play, I don't think tactics have as much as an impact in real life as they do in OSM when a big team plays a small team. It still remains that even when a small team has better tactics than a big team, the scorelines that a small team wins by in OSM is just stupid. The impact of tactics is just ridiculous and unrealistic in OSM, and I think the objective for OSM should be realism, and I don't think they are reaching that objective with their absolute trash, terrible, and broken game engine.
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@uchenna-a said in the game engine is broken:
@peenagees Also I think tactics impact on whether you win or get trashed is just too big and ridiculous in OSM. Even though tactics have a large impact in real life when two teams of similar quality play, I don't think tactics have as much as an impact in real life as they do in OSM when a big team plays a small team. It still remains that even when a small team has better tactics than a big team, the scorelines that a small team wins by in OSM is just stupid. The impact of tactics is just ridiculous and unrealistic in OSM, and I think the objective for OSM should be realism, and I don't think they are reaching that objective with their absolute trash, terrible, and broken game engine.
You keep repeating the same words over and over again ( and not just you mate ) , so let me ask you a couple things.
If the game engine is a complete failure then how come you got this kind of winning ratio?
How did you get 20 championships and 19 Cups? Why do we get to see 1256 winning matches on your game profile instead of lost ones?
And what are you trying to achieve by blaming the OSM engine for every loss that you get? After all it is the same engine that every manager on OSM is using therefore we all get the same chances for wins or losses. Am I right?
Why do you guys keep using this forum in such a negative way, throwing meaningless accusations on this topic about the game engine instead of trying to benefit and interact with each other by for instance presenting actual examples of lost matches with screen shots of those matches's results.
You could have a real discussion here, a creative conversation about your match results, your tactics and maybe just maybe this way you could exchange your ideas and thoughts about them, learn new things, get inspired by fellow managers , get improved and eventually try a different approach for goodness sake on your future settings and tactics.“Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
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@Acantha If my tactics bad, i have worse istatistic than other team. Tactics are good but luck isnt good. I dont agree with you. I said this game has %40 tactic and %60 luck. But nowadays; %20 tactic and %80 luck. Really broken game engine, please nobody defend this system.
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@Bahadır-K Remember that even that if you'll think that your team has a better tactic, doesn't mean other teams can't counter your tactic.
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@uchenna-a said in the game engine is broken:
Sometimes small teams beat big teams, but it just happens so much in OSM that it is ridiculous
Why is it ridiculous when small teams beat a big team. This is a game and not a real game. Don't compare it to the real game because there is nothing in common. If you have a good tactic does not mean you will win. When you put the tactic, you should be careful what tactic will use the opponent and to find this ( of course not the tactic) you have to spy the opponent, to see his lineup and how he has put the players in the lineup. So in this way, you can counter him and maybe you win the match.
@Bahadır-K said in the game engine is broken:
If my tactics bad, I have worse statistics than another team. Tactics are good but luck isn't good
The statistics don't tell you that your tactic was better than the opponent tactic. If you had a better statistics that the opponent and you lost, that means that the opponent countered your tactic and to do that it's easy, because the opponent may be used the spy and he saw your lineup and see how you set the players up, made him counter your tactic.
No one is defending the system but is not god when you lose to create such a topic and blaming the engine. (Why someone doesn't create such topic when he wins the matches, I guess that then the engine is not broken, because you win the matches)
I play OSM for more than 7 years and I had these problems, for example, couple weeks ago I had this problem and got 6 draws of them I got 3 draws with CPU and I lost the league. So what should I do, blaming the engine? The engine is random and so everything can happen. It just a game and doesn't compare it to the real game because there is nothing in common.
Kind Regards
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@Bahadır-K said in the game engine is broken:
@peenagees 15(me) vs 4 shot, 72(me) vs 28 possesion. But i lost 2-0?? Game engine is broken i think with last uptade(s)
@Bahadır-K said in the game engine is broken:
@Acantha If my tactics bad, i have worse istatistic than other team. Tactics are good but luck isnt good. I dont agree with you. I said this game has %40 tactic and %60 luck. But nowadays; %20 tactic and %80 luck. Really broken game engine, please nobody defend this system.I honestly find it so hard to understand this kind of statements , especially coming from a experienced manager like yourself. I have been reading all your posts and advices on the Tactics Requests topic and I was really very glad about it and thank you for your support. But now I'm confused... If you actually believe that 80% of the game engine's results are based on pure luck then how come you spend time on explaining and giving tactical advices to other managers about their matches? You could just tell them : Best of luck mate, that's all you need!
