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  • SpecialOneS SpecialOne
    -Community Survey | Status update
    

    Thanks again everyone for filling in the Community Survey. We wanted to give you all a status update since we are working on this.

    As promised, 5 managers are randomly selected for the Boss Coin prize (500 Boss Coins). The lucky managers are:

    • German Chester
    • NandΓ£o13
    • JAzevedo
    • TimoBauer
    • Chucky111 (Netherlands region)

    About the survey itself: we're analysing all the data. It's a lot since so many of you helped us out by filling it in. We will let you know when we have the results.

    Thanks again!

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    Majstor Matt
    wrote on last edited by Majstor Matt
    #19

    @SpecialOne Great. Thank you for the feedback and status report.

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      #20
      -Community Survey | Results/Actions
      

      Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

      Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

      Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

      Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

      1. Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)
      2. Return of Classic Battles (6%)
      3. Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

      What are we going to do about this?

      1. We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.
      2. We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.
      3. We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

      Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

      "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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      • SpecialOneS SpecialOne
        -Community Survey | Results/Actions
        

        Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

        Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

        Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

        Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

        1. Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)
        2. Return of Classic Battles (6%)
        3. Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

        What are we going to do about this?

        1. We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.
        2. We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.
        3. We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

        Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

        jeffro daviesJ Offline
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        jeffro davies
        wrote on last edited by jeffro davies
        #21

        @SpecialOne said in Community Survey:

        -Community Survey | Results/Actions
        

        Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

        Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

        Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

        Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

        1. Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)
        2. Return of Classic Battles (6%)
        3. Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

        What are we going to do about this?

        1. We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.
        2. We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.
        3. We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

        Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

        Excellent news, thank you @SpecialOne .

        Couple of questions about 2 and 3 please. What battle rules would be allowed with this concept, I know you say you are not certain just curious about your thoughts?

        Also what solution have you seen and will be working on that’s time consuming? Sure there are lots of suggestions so I’m not sure which GB and yourself think are good or bad ideas for OSM?

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        • SpecialOneS SpecialOne
          -Community Survey | Results/Actions
          

          Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

          Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

          Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

          Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

          1. Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)
          2. Return of Classic Battles (6%)
          3. Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

          What are we going to do about this?

          1. We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.
          2. We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.
          3. We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

          Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

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          Vincent Ado Kompany
          wrote on last edited by
          #22

          @SpecialOne said in Community Survey:

          -Community Survey | Results/Actions
          

          Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

          Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

          Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

          Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

          1. Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)
          2. Return of Classic Battles (6%)
          3. Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

          What are we going to do about this?

          1. We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.
          2. We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.
          3. We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

          Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

          Very good news. Bravo, you are the best

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          • SpecialOneS SpecialOne
            -Community Survey | Results/Actions
            

            Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

            Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

            Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

            Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

            1. Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)
            2. Return of Classic Battles (6%)
            3. Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

            What are we going to do about this?

            1. We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.
            2. We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.
            3. We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

            Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

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            Majstor Matt
            wrote on last edited by
            #23

            @SpecialOne Nice too see that our feedback is being taken into account in decision making. Thank you for the update. πŸ™‚

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            • SpecialOneS SpecialOne
              -Community Survey | Results/Actions
              

              Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

              Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

              Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

              Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

              1. Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)
              2. Return of Classic Battles (6%)
              3. Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

              What are we going to do about this?

              1. We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.
              2. We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.
              3. We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

              Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

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              reytinq
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              @SpecialOne niceπŸ‘πŸ‘

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              • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                @SpecialOne said in Community Survey:

                -Community Survey | Results/Actions
                

                Wow, thanks again for the massive feedback from the community, more than 1300 reactions!

                Since our last update - we told you we were still reading and analyzing all reactions - we've been doing even more reading and analyzing.

                Now, we wanted to share the results and of course the things we are going to do with the results.

                Analyzing all those reactions, answering the question What would you improve about OSM?, this was the top 3:

                1. Change something about the current advanced tools in Battles (25%)
                2. Return of Classic Battles (6%)
                3. Possibility to choose an opponent for a Friendly Battle (5%)

                What are we going to do about this?

                1. We will turn off the advanced tool for Instantly finishing timers in the upcoming Battle update. We will keep rotating the different tools in the future, based on feedback and data. You can expect this change within a month.
                2. We're working on a concept for a league where Battle rules are allowed. We're not certain about anything but we will update you all when we know more.
                3. We already got this suggestion from earlier feedback in a Battle survey. The solution is so time consuming and complex to create that this isn't an option for now.

                Thanks again everyone for participating and making OSM better!

                Excellent news, thank you @SpecialOne .

                Couple of questions about 2 and 3 please. What battle rules would be allowed with this concept, I know you say you are not certain just curious about your thoughts?

                Also what solution have you seen and will be working on that’s time consuming? Sure there are lots of suggestions so I’m not sure which GB and yourself think are good or bad ideas for OSM?

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                #25

                @jeffro-davies Both points 2 and 3 are 'linked'

                As was said several times over the past years, to lose on purpose is something that goes against all fair play, and the OSM Terms. This was the reason why we implemented Battles created with a specific schedule to avoid playing against your crew mates.

                The implementation turned out to be much more complex than originally thought. That is why other options, like picking your league or playing friendlies were left out for a later date.

                Since then we've been trying to find a workable solution that will make the battles more interesting for our old school/hardcore users in a tournament format. Unfortunately thus far we have been unable to come up with a solution that fits. Other solutions we have discussed turned out to require too much time or are too complex to implement (point 3).

                Recently we have been looking at different options (point 2). We're evaluating the community requests and how we could implement them without hurting fair play for ALL users and/or the OSM Terms.

                This is still in a very early stage and we are still not entirely sure it's possible, so for now we prefer to keep the specifics private. Of course as soon as we have something tangible to share we will! Until then we ask for your patience.

                "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                  GB could create a league of 10 specific teams for these battles where no coaching points would be awarded
                  It would be a training league, a league where all the resources are available, cup, etc.
                  With this league created just for these battles, there is no more favor for anyone, it is just a training league with no coach points, the rules would be respected because there is no advantage or loss for any coach
                  Winning this league will not contribute any points to the personal ranking, thus rendering any kind of cheating useless and following the GB terms.

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                  • nelson6111N nelson6111

                    GB could create a league of 10 specific teams for these battles where no coaching points would be awarded
                    It would be a training league, a league where all the resources are available, cup, etc.
                    With this league created just for these battles, there is no more favor for anyone, it is just a training league with no coach points, the rules would be respected because there is no advantage or loss for any coach
                    Winning this league will not contribute any points to the personal ranking, thus rendering any kind of cheating useless and following the GB terms.

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                    jeffro davies
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                    #27

                    @nelson6111 said in Community Survey:

                    GB could create a league of 10 specific teams for these battles where no coaching points would be awarded
                    It would be a training league, a league where all the resources are available, cup, etc.
                    With this league created just for these battles, there is no more favor for anyone, it is just a training league with no coach points, the rules would be respected because there is no advantage or loss for any coach
                    Winning this league will not contribute any points to the personal ranking, thus rendering any kind of cheating useless and following the GB terms.

                    This is why I suggested β€œmanager points removed” option in the moderator tools when creating a league. I really hope GB and staff are working on this 🀞

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                    • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                      @jeffro-davies Both points 2 and 3 are 'linked'

                      As was said several times over the past years, to lose on purpose is something that goes against all fair play, and the OSM Terms. This was the reason why we implemented Battles created with a specific schedule to avoid playing against your crew mates.

                      The implementation turned out to be much more complex than originally thought. That is why other options, like picking your league or playing friendlies were left out for a later date.

                      Since then we've been trying to find a workable solution that will make the battles more interesting for our old school/hardcore users in a tournament format. Unfortunately thus far we have been unable to come up with a solution that fits. Other solutions we have discussed turned out to require too much time or are too complex to implement (point 3).

                      Recently we have been looking at different options (point 2). We're evaluating the community requests and how we could implement them without hurting fair play for ALL users and/or the OSM Terms.

                      This is still in a very early stage and we are still not entirely sure it's possible, so for now we prefer to keep the specifics private. Of course as soon as we have something tangible to share we will! Until then we ask for your patience.

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                      Apocalipse4
                      Portuguese Users
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                      Dear @SpecialOne,

                      After quite some time, since the annoucement of the end of the classic/forum battles, finally we have good news related to this issue. At least, we can assume, that youΒ΄ve been working on a solution, and the matter is definitely not closed. I think, that for the community, reversing the changes in app battles ( point 1 ) is a positive signal, and will allow balance and competitiveness among all. Regarding point 2, there will certainly be many applicable ideas that allow, the continuity of the classic/forum battles, maintaining respect for fair play and OSM terms. It was important that the dialogue between the GB and the community was resumed, and that common sense will be imperative for a future solution.
                      Thank You

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                        Vincent Ado Kompany
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                        #29

                        I heard from some people that there is some surway in the app version about battle.

                        I checked the inbox, I don't have it at the moment, and I will check every day, so that I don't miss the survey.

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                        • Vincent Ado KompanyV Vincent Ado Kompany

                          I heard from some people that there is some surway in the app version about battle.

                          I checked the inbox, I don't have it at the moment, and I will check every day, so that I don't miss the survey.

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                          @Ado-Hackovic I think it only appears for those who have not been in battle for some time.

                          Sintra Crew Moderator

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                            It looks like it's hard for some users to understand what's the intention of these surveys.

                            Surveys are targeted to a specific group of users, so we can understand what can be made to improve OSM in a way that this specific group of users change the way they play.

                            Actual survey is to find out why users that are in a crew doesn't play battles. So if you share the link to survey for others, it won't serve the purpose and results will be ignored!

                            I deleted previous link and no punishment was given. If you chose to insist, then harsher measures will be taken!

                            "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                              But why is there this link to the survey in the Dutch forum?
                              https://forum.onlinesoccermanager.com/topic/53162/vraag-aan-jullie-over-crewduels/27

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                              • HBlauzahnH HBlauzahn

                                But why is there this link to the survey in the Dutch forum?
                                https://forum.onlinesoccermanager.com/topic/53162/vraag-aan-jullie-over-crewduels/27

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #33

                                @HBlauzahn Because we all are humans and OSM players, so we make mistakes like all other OSM managers.

                                Tks for letting us know. Post deleted!

                                "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                                  Community Survey.jpg

                                  Community Battle survey

                                  In the past, we've done multiple surveys to get your input on how we can improve Battles. As you know, we change the league and the settings now and then. These changes are based on feedback through community platforms, surveys and player behaviour.

                                  Now, we'd like to hear your input again.
                                  Note: This survey will only be shared on community platforms (not in-game) to capture the voice of the hardcore managers.

                                  Please fill in this survey to share your input with us.

                                  Thanks in advance!

                                  We'll share the results soon and use it to decide on future Battle changes. The survey will close on July 11.

                                  PS. The survey is in English. This makes analysing it and processing it quicker! πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§

                                  "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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                                  • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

                                    Community Survey.jpg

                                    Community Battle survey

                                    In the past, we've done multiple surveys to get your input on how we can improve Battles. As you know, we change the league and the settings now and then. These changes are based on feedback through community platforms, surveys and player behaviour.

                                    Now, we'd like to hear your input again.
                                    Note: This survey will only be shared on community platforms (not in-game) to capture the voice of the hardcore managers.

                                    Please fill in this survey to share your input with us.

                                    Thanks in advance!

                                    We'll share the results soon and use it to decide on future Battle changes. The survey will close on July 11.

                                    PS. The survey is in English. This makes analysing it and processing it quicker! πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§

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                                    @specialone

                                    When will the results be announced?

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                                    • Sir MehmetS Sir Mehmet

                                      @specialone

                                      When will the results be announced?

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                                      @mehmetcetintd said in Community Survey:

                                      @specialone

                                      When will the results be announced?

                                      @SpecialOne you tagged the wrong name @MehmetCetinTD

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                                      • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                                        @mehmetcetintd said in Community Survey:

                                        @specialone

                                        When will the results be announced?

                                        @SpecialOne you tagged the wrong name @MehmetCetinTD

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                                        @jeffro-davies

                                        Maybe if I had tagged you I would have gotten an answer by now.

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                                        • Sir MehmetS Sir Mehmet

                                          @jeffro-davies

                                          Maybe if I had tagged you I would have gotten an answer by now.

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                                          @mehmetcetintd said in Community Survey:

                                          @jeffro-davies

                                          Maybe if I had tagged you I would have gotten an answer by now.

                                          πŸ˜‚yes you would have😁I’m nobody on the game though unfortunately.

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