Referees and their Effects
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@Exter98 I know right?
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I have the feeling that referees have become more strict during the past few months. I've always played reckless with green, blue and even yellow referees; and aggressive with orange and red ones, but never normal or careful. I hardly got any red cards by playing that way. But as I said I've noticed referees have become more strict so I don't risk that much anymore and have started playing normal with orange and red ones.
Regarding the pressure, nobody seems to know for sure whether it affects the chance of getting red cards. Well, I am pretty sure it does. You'll be more likely to get a red card if you play with high pressure even if the ref is lenient. On the other hand you can play reckless with low pressure and won't normally get any red cards.
Regarding the fact that a red card has too much influence in the game and you always lose even if your squad is very strong... well, that is true and it doesn't happen on real football, but I don't think that should change as it makes the game more thrilling and results more unpredictable. There are many other unreal things in this game. For example, it is not real that a player who started the league being rated 60 can end up the league being 100+, even better than Messi, after being trained during just 20 games. It is also unreal that a goal 16 team from a humble country can win the league and sign players like Cristiano, Griezmann... players who would never sign for such a small team. OSM is loosely based in real football but doesn't need to be too real.
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Right. At this point I believe it is a must for me to share and try to explain a few things about the Referees and the OSM engine. Cause my dear @Adilmo-Rocha it is possible a lot of new arrived managers will be reading this topic and I surely don't want any of them to get the wrong idea about how the OSM engine works or what any manager should do according to the Referee of his/her match.
About the Categories of the Referees :
We have 5 different kind of Refs ( Referees). Starting from number 1 who is the most easy going one and very lenient Ref up to number 5 who is the most severe and strict Ref of them all ! Of course as you can imagine , the more strict the Ref the more possible for us to get a
red cardor lots of yellows during a match. And if we choose to play way too aggressively for all of our matches then I'm afraid that comes with a cost for our players.But allow me to explain myself ...
I will begin by sharing with you my personal habits on the tackling part of the game , depending on the Ref that I will have to face for each match .
Refs & Tackling :
Ref. 1 >> The most lenient/mild Ref of them all >> The beloved Green Ref : I use always Reckless tackling while on this sweet Ref, cause he hardly ever gives away any card to my players.
Just love this guy!
Ref. 2 >> Another mild to average Ref >> The so called Blue Ref : I use only Aggressive tackling here.
Ref. 3 >> The average & tricky in my opinion Ref >> The so called Yellow Ref : I use Normal and rarely Aggressive Tackling while on this Ref. Cause sometimes he is more of a mild one but other times he behaves as a bad a** one.
So my decision depends on how important is this match and how much I want to win it.
Ref. 4 >> The strict Ref >> The so called Orange Ref : I mostly use Careful tackling on this uptight dude.
Ref. 5 >> The strictest of all Refs >> The so called Red ( & firey
) Ref : Any guesses about this one ?
Well of course I go always & only with Careful tackling while on this draconian like Referee !
And I have won plenty of matches while using my Careful tackling due to the presence of a strict Ref.
Important Notice:
Yes, lady luck plays for some matches her part as well on the results .
Yes, for some random rounds you will witness underdog squads winning the match. Just like in real footy !
But please lets face the facts here. Strict Refs give away yellow and red cards more often than any average or mild Ref.
It is advised to focus not on the exceptions but on the main facts of this game.
Stop looking at a single tree cause you are missing the whole forest my friends.That's my simple way of using this wise old saying : "Can't see the forest for the trees" , an expression used for someone who is too involved in the details of a problem instead of looking at the situation as a whole.
That was my two cents on the Refs & their effects topic that our mate Adilmo was kind to open and create this wonderful discussion. Thank you Adilmo.
Now best of luck to all of you my mates !
Warning !If you decide to use a combo of hard tackling with very high pressure then you also risk of getting bad injuries for some of your players!
My idea with the topic was just to see the opinions and what happens to each one.
With me, in almost 95% of the time, if I have 1 expelled, I lose the game and for many goals. I think that's the biggest issue on the subject.
But there are cases where even with kicked out, the coach wins. It still seems to me somewhat abstract that we are discovering with time!
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My idea with the topic was just to see the opinions and what happens to each one.
With me, in almost 95% of the time, if I have 1 expelled, I lose the game and for many goals. I think that's the biggest issue on the subject.
But there are cases where even with kicked out, the coach wins. It still seems to me somewhat abstract that we are discovering with time!
@Adilmo-Rocha said in Referees and their effects - Opinion:
My idea with the topic was just to see the opinions and what happens to each one.
I could see that Adilmo and that's why I thanked you in my previous post. Due to your topic we have all the opportunity to exchange our personal thoughts and experience about this matter, that probably has been a pain for some of our fellow managers here.
With me, in almost 95% of the time, if I have 1 expelled, I lose the game and for many goals. I think that's the biggest issue on the subject.
Then my dear Adilmo maybe time has come for you to try new things with your special tactics and stop getting your players expelled, and this topic hopefully will give you fresh ideas.
But there are cases where even with kicked out, the coach wins. It still seems to me somewhat abstract that we are discovering with time!
Like I've mentioned earlier...This football game is not a 100% predictable one . Lady luck plays her part too and that's exactly the reason for me finding it so fascinating ! And I love the fact that I can discover new things all the time and each league is unique and a whole new adventure to me !
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A funny picture from the past ...:rofl:
Seven bloody days of suspension for my player !
For any of you that think the old version and old Referees were like angelic ones ! Muahaha!
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Can anybody tell me, why with red referee when I play normal style, and my opponents aggressive, but red cards are always given to my players?
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Can anybody tell me, why with red referee when I play normal style, and my opponents aggressive, but red cards are always given to my players?
@Sabit-Mamedov Hello mate.
I had to move your post in here. I believe you might get your answers if you read these posts .
“Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
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@Sabit-Mamedov Hello mate.
I had to move your post in here. I believe you might get your answers if you read these posts .
@SUPERNOVA-8 Hi Sofie. If you had such bad experience with referees you can tell me the reason)
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@SUPERNOVA-8 Hi Sofie. If you had such bad experience with referees you can tell me the reason)
@Sabit-Mamedov Hi Sabit
But I have already made a detailed post / explanation of how I feel things are working according to each Referee. It is the 6th post of this same topic on Page 1 mate. And you will also find more posts and opinions from other managers as well. -
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Should I be happy or mad?
Hard to get 3 red cards, at least you managed to tie.
I also got 3 red cards two months ago, I lost 1-0.
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At least your ref was "red".. my was "yellow" and still easy on reds for me
But yeah, all in all, Im gald I have managed to get a draw with 8 players in field 
🥉 OSM Nations Cup 2021 - 3rd place (Croatia)
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Should I be happy or mad?
@Majstor-Matt Yikes !
Oh for crying out loud ...
Matty how on earth did you manage to get 3 reddies mate? 
Care to share a few juicy details with us? Cause honestly I'm so curious now. You were playing away on a medium "yellow" Ref . So what kind of tackling did you use and was your pressure too high maybe? -
At least your ref was "red".. my was "yellow" and still easy on reds for me
But yeah, all in all, Im gald I have managed to get a draw with 8 players in field @Majstor-Matt said in Referees and their effects - Opinion:
At least your ref was "red".. my was "yellow" and still easy on reds for me
But yeah, all in all, Im gald I have managed to get a draw with 8 players in field Aye ! You should be over the moon about it buddy!
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Should I be happy or mad?
@Majstor-Matt said in Referees and their effects - Opinion:
Should I be happy or mad?
Ahahahahahahaha. Matty did you see what is written under your first red card? Who are your players buddy?
The Ninja Turtles ?! :rofl: Oh God, I'm dying of laughter ! Rest in peace Sophia ... :cross:First we had the Pokemons league ...Do we have now the Ninja Turtles league and I'm not aware of it ? :thinking:
“Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
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@Majstor-Matt said in Referees and their effects - Opinion:
Should I be happy or mad?
Ahahahahahahaha. Matty did you see what is written under your first red card? Who are your players buddy?
The Ninja Turtles ?! :rofl: Oh God, I'm dying of laughter ! Rest in peace Sophia ... :cross:First we had the Pokemons league ...Do we have now the Ninja Turtles league and I'm not aware of it ? :thinking:
@SUPERNOVA-8 Leaked footage from my training pitch
🥉 OSM Nations Cup 2021 - 3rd place (Croatia)
Crew: Proud to be Croat -
@SUPERNOVA-8 Leaked footage from my training pitch
@Majstor-Matt I adore you man ! :rofl: You're an idol for sure Doc :heart_exclamation:
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@MenagerBL Ahahaha. Oh c`mon you guys. You're killing me really! Please share your little secret with us. How much pressure or what kind of tackling did you use to achieve such a terrible suspension?
Tip of the day: Stay away from Special leagues if you play very aggressively most of the time.
