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Referees and their Effects

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  • S SUPERNOVA 8

    @alvarorr_98 As I see it, the game engine punishes any exaggeration or mistake. If you have a green - mild ref and choose Careful tackling it will punish you. Same goes if you have a strict ref and you choose to go with Aggressive or Reckless.

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    @SUPERNOVA-8 yes I do it, but the ref isnt good for me anytime haha. Every matches I get red cards, be who be.

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      @SUPERNOVA-8 yes I do it, but the ref isnt good for me anytime haha. Every matches I get red cards, be who be.

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      @alvarorr_98 said in Referees and their effects - Opinion:

      @SUPERNOVA-8 yes I do it, but the ref isnt good for me anytime haha. Every matches I get red cards, be who be.

      Alvaro that really sounds so strange mate. 😲 All of your matches? No matter what Ref you have you get red cards all the time? And you are saying that you choose wise your marking and tackling and pressure , but still you get ruined this way ? I am speechless ! Have you upset your lady luck in any way buddy? 😆

      Anyway... As I promised earlier to return with proof of my words. Here you go my mates, screen shots taken from my current league. 😉

      1. http://prnt.sc/eo2t6l , 2. http://prnt.sc/eo2nzo , 3. http://prnt.sc/eo2kw2 ,
      2. http://prnt.sc/eo2gog , 5. http://prnt.sc/eo2ir9

      The above results came while I was using Careful Tackling for Orange and Red Refs and Reckless tackling for the Green Referee. 🙂

      And the next image shows the league's statistics for Round 20. I'm very proud to say that the whole league has recieved only 5 red cards so far. Personally I got none! Awfully glad about that. 😄 I do hate red cards and injuries. 😝

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      “Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
      Sophia ~ Salonica ~ Greece ~ 💙🤍💙

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        Let's bring this topic from back to front once again. I believe some managers could use the infos. 😉

        “Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
        Sophia ~ Salonica ~ Greece ~ 💙🤍💙

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          Sometimes the reff are incredible.... My opponent play agresive tactics and don't get a red card but I got with deff tactic 15% pressure and normal tackilng.....

          And you always lose

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            I agree that it looks like when you get a red card in the first 20 min that you always loose.

            I always play practise mathes agains my apponent and than i win big time. Than we got to the point that we had a real match for points and than you can guess it I get a red card in the 1st minute ! result in a big loss

            It's not the point that you can get a red card but that you always have to loose when you get one this early is realistic

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              In my Hungarian league I had a match with two red cards, one in the first ten minutes, but I won the game 1:0 😄

              ,,Ez nem lehet kérdés, hogy hogy áll neki az ember: van-e már világbajnoki címe vagy nincs, aki sportoló, az mindent meg akar nyerni.´´ - Nagy Viktor, a férfi vízilabda válogatott kapusa és egyben példaképem.

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                Match from last night. CUP MATCH!
                Referee - YELLOW, played - NORMAL.
                Take lead after only 3 min., get a red card and lose 3-1.
                THE OPPONENT IS PLAYING A CRAP TACTIC. 4-2-4
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                First match in league I destroyed him, with same tactics. 0_1494602825999_schalke3.jpg
                I would win and this match very easy, but..but...THE ENGINE IS STUPID.

                OSM World Champion 2019&2020/WNT Winner 17/18
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                  Have you ever seen something like this??? ahahahahahahah 😂 😂 😂
                  No photoshop, everything is real. You can check profile of ''acsm'', he is playing for 10 years already, played 7.500 matches in his career.

                  Man, man, man...Got a red card, leaded 3-0 and lost 3-7!!! ahahahahahah Is this real?

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                  OSM World Champion 2019&2020/WNT Winner 17/18
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                    #49

                    I recalled that great old topic and thought.. Let's bring it back to life to continue the discussion. 😃
                    Had to lock the new Ref topic and to move three of your posts in here guys.

                    @Adilmo-Rocha Are you still around buddy? 🙂
                    Long time no see..

                    “Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
                    Sophia ~ Salonica ~ Greece ~ 💙🤍💙

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                      Hello everybody! 😃

                      Today I will post my most recent example of how to get a good score while having a red Ref on your match. ✌

                      Latvia league, small one and only 3 real managers playing there but it's ok.
                      So tonight I was playing vs the Computer manager. Nevertheless, we can still get a good idea about the game.

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                      Joined this league not from the prep days but on matchday 5 . My squad's total value was 22,5 M. Today it is around 115 M.
                      Tip 1 : Work hard on your squad building!
                      With a goal 5 team I'm now on position 2.
                      On my first rounds there I had only one option : to play defensively. I even lost from a Computer team. But from the middle of the league and while reaching the finish line I could afford to play offensively and score. 💪

                      Now back to our Referee discussion.
                      I expect your questions, if you're interested to know anything more.
                      👂

                      “Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
                      Sophia ~ Salonica ~ Greece ~ 💙🤍💙

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                        This is what my Spy had to tell me about my opposition.

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                        Yes I use my Spy every single time! Absolutely love this fella ! 😆

                        Tip 2 : Never underestimate your opponent , even if it is a Computer managed team.
                        Sometimes it uses lowsy tactics but other times it can really surprise you with great ones!

                        “Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
                        Sophia ~ Salonica ~ Greece ~ 💙🤍💙

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                          Great topic to read @SUPERNOVA-8

                          I've got quite similar thoughts about the ref. With my strategy, in my US-competition, I only received 16 yellow and 2 red cards in 35 rounds. The red cards are from the start of the league when I used reckless tackling a lot..

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                            Great topic to read @SUPERNOVA-8

                            I've got quite similar thoughts about the ref. With my strategy, in my US-competition, I only received 16 yellow and 2 red cards in 35 rounds. The red cards are from the start of the league when I used reckless tackling a lot..

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                            @joost-sœter_nl Thank you very much for your post mate! 😃
                            Tbh , I was expecting more managers to join me on this very helpful topic & discussion , but... nobody seems to care? 😕
                            So strange, cause I keep reading questions troubling the managers about Refs and tackling or pressure etc. 😞

                            🔴 Four (4) pages of valuable infos in here guys & gals ! 😉

                            “Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
                            Sophia ~ Salonica ~ Greece ~ 💙🤍💙

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                              Look at that guys! Even a Computer managed team got more yellows than I did. 🤣

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                              “Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
                              Sophia ~ Salonica ~ Greece ~ 💙🤍💙

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                                Look at that guys! Even a Computer managed team got more yellows than I did. 🤣

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                                @supernova-8 How many CPU teams are in your competition?

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                                  @supernova-8 How many CPU teams are in your competition?

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                                  @joost-sœter_nl When I first joined this league there were 4 CPU ( aka computer managed ) teams. Following one resignation, at my finish line we had 5 out of 8 CPU clubs.

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                                  I'm not bragging about this league guys. Like I said, it was a minor league with very few real managed teams.

                                  I'm trying to spice things up a little and start a creative chat in here about the 'special tactics' and formations that could be used according to the strictness of each Ref(eree). 😜

                                  “Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
                                  Sophia ~ Salonica ~ Greece ~ 💙🤍💙

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                                  • S SUPERNOVA 8

                                    I recalled that great old topic and thought.. Let's bring it back to life to continue the discussion. 😃
                                    Had to lock the new Ref topic and to move three of your posts in here guys.

                                    @Adilmo-Rocha Are you still around buddy? 🙂
                                    Long time no see..

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                                    @supernova-8 is there any significant change about pressure and actitude actually?

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                                      @supernova-8 is there any significant change about pressure and actitude actually?

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                                      @datalcar said in Referees and their Effects:

                                      @supernova-8 is there any significant change about pressure and actitude actually?

                                      Hello David ! 🙂
                                      I'm sorry but I'm not sure what exactly you're asking me. Could you please explain to me your thoughts?

                                      “Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
                                      Sophia ~ Salonica ~ Greece ~ 💙🤍💙

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                                      • S SUPERNOVA 8

                                        This is what my Spy had to tell me about my opposition.

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                                        Yes I use my Spy every single time! Absolutely love this fella ! 😆

                                        Tip 2 : Never underestimate your opponent , even if it is a Computer managed team.
                                        Sometimes it uses lowsy tactics but other times it can really surprise you with great ones!

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                                        @supernova-8 said in Referees and their Effects:

                                        This is what my Spy had to tell me about my opposition.

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                                        Now to continue and complete my case study , I took screen shots of my own line up and tactics 2 days ago in order to present them
                                        in here with the hope it triggers a nice chat and exchange of opinions within our community.

                                        My line up on that match:

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                                        My tactics on that match:

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                                        The results of the match:

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                                        Words of the game's commentators:

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                                        “Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
                                        Sophia ~ Salonica ~ Greece ~ 💙🤍💙

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                                          So in a few words .. I was playing at my home vs a weaker CPU team , our Ref was a red one ( the worst Ref - strictest of them all ) and the CPU team decides to play with 451 CounterAttack, Man Marking , No Offside Trap and Normal tackling .

                                          What do you have to say about this case study?
                                          What are your thoughts guys?
                                          I'm all ears ! 👂 😄 👂

                                          “Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
                                          Sophia ~ Salonica ~ Greece ~ 💙🤍💙

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