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  • OchowiakO Ochowiak

    I'm really happy with the huge amount of players' feedback, which is great, unless the Administration doesn't even read it, that would suck, huh? I think there is one huge thing that wasn't mentioned.
    While the managers that are classified by the Divisons system as "THE BEST" play all four slots in full, inactive leagues grinding points, those really great managers compete against other fantastic managers in either Crew Battles or custom tournaments like CCW. It's easy to understand, that those first ones need close to no skill to reach that top and they give no effort in that, while competitive players have to face real opponents that are active, that think and analyse the tactics and that won't let you win easily.
    For a quick comparison - @tristan1982 is the best manager in Poland according to manager points, frequently reaching top places in tournaments and crew battles, while in the Divisions bs system he is around 50th place. That's absolutely ridiculous!
    What I think may be a good way out of this situation is getting rid of this division non sense and mastering the previous system. Afaik, the Manager points are summed up points from all the leagues played on that very slot during previous 5 years, later results are erased (i'm not 100% sure). What can be done to present a better view on the managers' levels is to shorten the time from 5 years to 2 or even 1.

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    if you are not in agreement with these situations you can contact Gamebasics through this email :

    info@gamebasics.nl

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    • SpecialOneS SpecialOne

      About survey... Just because you didn't got it, don't remember, it doesn't mean we didn't do it.

      As you like to state quite often Gamebasics runs a business, so they want their business to succeed and we're not interested on destroy OSM, so every step/change we do requires some studies.

      The survey we're referring on the update announcement was made end of November/early December and users had to check announcements on app and click there to access it.

      There were 3 questions in there if I'm not mistaken (something like this):

      • Do you think Divisions & Medals are a good indicator of the best managers
      • What you think we can improve on Medal system
      • If we replace Manager points by Medals, what feature you would like to be involved in (and we listed 3/4 things)
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      @specialone Hidden survey, for only 2 or 3 people to answer, because they know that many of us would not agree, and that goes against their interests. You don't even remember what the questions were. When dealing with an important topic, at least review or show the exact data, and don't go assuming what the "questions" were saying.

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        Vinayak Singh Mehra
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        @ialeksandari said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

        @SpecialOne Many things need to be improved with Medals, but I need to fokus on one big, and that's -medals for loses with clubs with low objective
        If I take club with objective 16, and loss aggainst club with objective 1, I can't lose 1000+ medals, it's fair let's say 50, 60..
        if you understand what i mean

        And,
        update is your thing, i mean, not for players to work on, but if you put something in the game, it need's to be near perfection, not at the begining
        All of this is cirkus, update this, delete that, remove this, remove that

        That's what I posted a month ago, and I agree! Totally nonsense! Now those who'll play with a weaker team will have lesser medals, and finding a top team is very hard and we all know that.

        Boss at Pro Manager Guiders
        Be the one who thinks for all, just not for himself! #SaveOSM

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          Vinayak Singh Mehra
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          It's just a game though, but manager points are no joke. Support the movement with using- #BringBackManagerPoints #JusticeForOldPlayers #MPAreBetterThanMedals #MakeOSMGreatAgain #SaveOSM

          Boss at Pro Manager Guiders
          Be the one who thinks for all, just not for himself! #SaveOSM

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            Vinayak Singh Mehra
            English Users
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            #175

            Guys I've come up with a survey, please check it and answer your opinions.
            https://forms.gle/zdr9FqoQCTVuQpJE7

            Boss at Pro Manager Guiders
            Be the one who thinks for all, just not for himself! #SaveOSM

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            • V Vinayak Singh Mehra

              It's just a game though, but manager points are no joke. Support the movement with using- #BringBackManagerPoints #JusticeForOldPlayers #MPAreBetterThanMedals #MakeOSMGreatAgain #SaveOSM

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              #176

              A question for all of you guys:
              Would you be willing to pay a monthly or annual fee to the game owner to play by the rules that are most suitable for those who play professionally?
              For example, How much does it costs to create a championship? 250-300 coins on average, would you be willing to pay 750 coins to create a championship that can be used for a classic battles? would you be willing to pay an additional annual fee to access the creation of these leagues?
              Would you pay the owner of the game to keep both systems, medals and MP?

              I work for a Bank, I know business is important, and I can understand that who put money in this business want to have his economical return. Times are changed and it's not possible to play free anymore.
              Would you pay to keep the game as 2/3 years ago?

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              • V Vinayak Singh Mehra

                Guys I've come up with a survey, please check it and answer your opinions.
                https://forms.gle/zdr9FqoQCTVuQpJE7

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                Vinayak Singh Mehra
                English Users
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                @vinayak-singh-mehra said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                Guys I've come up with a survey, please check it and answer your opinions.
                https://forms.gle/zdr9FqoQCTVuQpJE7

                I've removed the feature of logging in so everybody can access to this survey now.

                Boss at Pro Manager Guiders
                Be the one who thinks for all, just not for himself! #SaveOSM

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                • RafelmazR Rafelmaz

                  A question for all of you guys:
                  Would you be willing to pay a monthly or annual fee to the game owner to play by the rules that are most suitable for those who play professionally?
                  For example, How much does it costs to create a championship? 250-300 coins on average, would you be willing to pay 750 coins to create a championship that can be used for a classic battles? would you be willing to pay an additional annual fee to access the creation of these leagues?
                  Would you pay the owner of the game to keep both systems, medals and MP?

                  I work for a Bank, I know business is important, and I can understand that who put money in this business want to have his economical return. Times are changed and it's not possible to play free anymore.
                  Would you pay to keep the game as 2/3 years ago?

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                  @rafelmaz

                  This has no relation because what is set up allows to be well classified in the ranking of medals by playing closed championships against the computer .. So without recruiting, without transfer, and without friendlies ... therefore without spending coins .... While to be at the top of the coaching points ranking I have to recruit a lot and set up training camps for example ...

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                    #179

                    So many questions that were left unanswered -.- "

                    Anyway ... it's usual ... it's already normal for players to be ignored

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                    • xXSpeedKillX xXSpeedKill

                      So many questions that were left unanswered -.- "

                      Anyway ... it's usual ... it's already normal for players to be ignored

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                      @xxspeedkill said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                      So many questions that were left unanswered -.- "

                      Anyway ... it's usual ... it's already normal for players to be ignored

                      Yeah and staff want forum activity with posts on the forums in competitions but can’t be bothered to reply to people😂ask for feedback with certain things but don’t talk to the community or very rare . It’s laughable isn’t it!

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                      • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                        @xxspeedkill said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                        So many questions that were left unanswered -.- "

                        Anyway ... it's usual ... it's already normal for players to be ignored

                        Yeah and staff want forum activity with posts on the forums in competitions but can’t be bothered to reply to people😂ask for feedback with certain things but don’t talk to the community or very rare . It’s laughable isn’t it!

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                        @jeffro-davies

                        Any day I start to think that it is a conspiracy for players to abandon the game ahah. They always do everything in reverse

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                        • xXSpeedKillX xXSpeedKill

                          @jeffro-davies

                          Any day I start to think that it is a conspiracy for players to abandon the game ahah. They always do everything in reverse

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                          @xxspeedkill seems they want managers that’s played the game for years to leave I definitely agree with that. Every single big update they do is bad for managers that’s played the game for years😂don’t debate with us at at all or give their opinions on things but always want ours then do nothing or very little about them anyway😂Always the community talking to each other and never no staff on threads about updates.

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                            Thank you to all who responded to the manager points survey! I didn't expect more than 30 responses, but a total of 142 responses have been recorded as of now. The responses will be shared after this month ends. But if you're doing the form again and again, that would be unfair. So please don't do it. And once again, a very big thanks♥️♥️

                            Boss at Pro Manager Guiders
                            Be the one who thinks for all, just not for himself! #SaveOSM

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                              @somrob

                              Maybe it is the 10,000 ranking of the year 2022 ... if in 2022 there are 10,000 players to make a ranking

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                                @ialeksandari ´

                                Besides that the game is becoming more and more casual, less competitive and without goals ... that type of game that is played for 2 months and we get tired

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                                • V Vinayak Singh Mehra

                                  Thank you to all who responded to the manager points survey! I didn't expect more than 30 responses, but a total of 142 responses have been recorded as of now. The responses will be shared after this month ends. But if you're doing the form again and again, that would be unfair. So please don't do it. And once again, a very big thanks♥️♥️

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                                  @vinayak-singh-mehra said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                                  Thank you to all who responded to the manager points survey! I didn't expect more than 30 responses, but a total of 142 responses have been recorded as of now. The responses will be shared after this month ends. But if you're doing the form again and again, that would be unfair. So please don't do it. And once again, a very big thanks♥️♥️

                                  Manager points survey?

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                                    @somrob I am also in top 10k in ranking and nobody ask me about my opinion. Also in Polish community there is some romours that this is not good change to replace MP with medals

                                    'Najpierw cię ignorują, potem się z ciebie śmieją później z tobą walczą, a na końcu wygrywasz"

                                    Ghandi

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                                      @SpecialOne
                                      I have 2 questions, would be nice if you could answer... 😁

                                      1. Currently, at the end of each season we get an amount of BossCoins as reward, depending on how many MP's we collected. What will happen after you remove MP's? Will we still get BC's at the end of the season?

                                      2. At the moment I get always the same number of medals if I beat a human manager, no matter which goal I'm or which goal he is. It's always the same...Till now most managers played with lower goals (goal 16, goal 13, goal 9 etc.) just in order to collect more MP's. Does it mean that with the removal of MP's club goals are becoming irrelevant? Why would I choose to manage WBA or Fulham in EPL? Ofc I will take ManCity or Liverpool...

                                      Can you explain please... 😁

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                                      • MenagerBLM MenagerBL

                                        @SpecialOne
                                        I have 2 questions, would be nice if you could answer... 😁

                                        1. Currently, at the end of each season we get an amount of BossCoins as reward, depending on how many MP's we collected. What will happen after you remove MP's? Will we still get BC's at the end of the season?

                                        2. At the moment I get always the same number of medals if I beat a human manager, no matter which goal I'm or which goal he is. It's always the same...Till now most managers played with lower goals (goal 16, goal 13, goal 9 etc.) just in order to collect more MP's. Does it mean that with the removal of MP's club goals are becoming irrelevant? Why would I choose to manage WBA or Fulham in EPL? Ofc I will take ManCity or Liverpool...

                                        Can you explain please... 😁

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                                        @menagerbl I think if they counted on medals, then the administration's goal would not become important

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                                        • MenagerBLM MenagerBL

                                          @SpecialOne
                                          I have 2 questions, would be nice if you could answer... 😁

                                          1. Currently, at the end of each season we get an amount of BossCoins as reward, depending on how many MP's we collected. What will happen after you remove MP's? Will we still get BC's at the end of the season?

                                          2. At the moment I get always the same number of medals if I beat a human manager, no matter which goal I'm or which goal he is. It's always the same...Till now most managers played with lower goals (goal 16, goal 13, goal 9 etc.) just in order to collect more MP's. Does it mean that with the removal of MP's club goals are becoming irrelevant? Why would I choose to manage WBA or Fulham in EPL? Ofc I will take ManCity or Liverpool...

                                          Can you explain please... 😁

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                                          @menagerbl perfect...

                                          A new osm survey has been received by a friend unfortunately I have not had ...

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