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  • timilic7T Offline
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    replied to Rafelmaz on last edited by
    #184

    @rafelmaz

    This has no relation because what is set up allows to be well classified in the ranking of medals by playing closed championships against the computer .. So without recruiting, without transfer, and without friendlies ... therefore without spending coins .... While to be at the top of the coaching points ranking I have to recruit a lot and set up training camps for example ...

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  • xXSpeedKillX Offline
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    wrote on last edited by xXSpeedKill
    #185

    So many questions that were left unanswered -.- "

    Anyway ... it's usual ... it's already normal for players to be ignored

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  • jeffro daviesJ Offline
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    #186

    @xxspeedkill said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

    So many questions that were left unanswered -.- "

    Anyway ... it's usual ... it's already normal for players to be ignored

    Yeah and staff want forum activity with posts on the forums in competitions but can’t be bothered to reply to people😂ask for feedback with certain things but don’t talk to the community or very rare . It’s laughable isn’t it!

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  • xXSpeedKillX Offline
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    replied to jeffro davies on last edited by
    #187

    @jeffro-davies

    Any day I start to think that it is a conspiracy for players to abandon the game ahah. They always do everything in reverse

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  • jeffro daviesJ Offline
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    replied to xXSpeedKill on last edited by
    #188

    @xxspeedkill seems they want managers that’s played the game for years to leave I definitely agree with that. Every single big update they do is bad for managers that’s played the game for years😂don’t debate with us at at all or give their opinions on things but always want ours then do nothing or very little about them anyway😂Always the community talking to each other and never no staff on threads about updates.

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    Vinayak Singh Mehra English Users
    wrote on last edited by
    #189

    Thank you to all who responded to the manager points survey! I didn't expect more than 30 responses, but a total of 142 responses have been recorded as of now. The responses will be shared after this month ends. But if you're doing the form again and again, that would be unfair. So please don't do it. And once again, a very big thanks♥️♥️

    Boss at Pro Manager Guiders
    Be the one who thinks for all, just not for himself! #SaveOSM

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  • somrobS Offline
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    #190

    for me is not clear what the mean with „they asked the top 10.000 players“. I am no. 38 in MP Ranking and 2.290 (!!) in medal ranking.

    NOBODY interviewed me.

    Is here someone from the top 10.000 who was really asked?

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  • xXSpeedKillX Offline
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    replied to somrob on last edited by
    #191

    @somrob

    Maybe it is the 10,000 ranking of the year 2022 ... if in 2022 there are 10,000 players to make a ranking

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  • IAleksandarII Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #192

    Forum became useless...
    They only respond to things that they won't, ban players, delete posts and they refer us to complaint links...

    I love icecream
    ,,Risk is what makes life worth living" - by me

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  • xXSpeedKillX Offline
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    replied to IAleksandarI on last edited by
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    @ialeksandari ´

    Besides that the game is becoming more and more casual, less competitive and without goals ... that type of game that is played for 2 months and we get tired

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  • jeffro daviesJ Offline
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    replied to Vinayak Singh Mehra on last edited by
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    @vinayak-singh-mehra said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

    Thank you to all who responded to the manager points survey! I didn't expect more than 30 responses, but a total of 142 responses have been recorded as of now. The responses will be shared after this month ends. But if you're doing the form again and again, that would be unfair. So please don't do it. And once again, a very big thanks♥️♥️

    Manager points survey?

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  • jasiuk88J Offline
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    replied to somrob on last edited by
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    @somrob I am also in top 10k in ranking and nobody ask me about my opinion. Also in Polish community there is some romours that this is not good change to replace MP with medals

    'Najpierw cię ignorują, potem się z ciebie śmieją później z tobą walczą, a na końcu wygrywasz"

    Ghandi

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  • MenagerBLM Offline
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    @SpecialOne
    I have 2 questions, would be nice if you could answer... 😁

    1. Currently, at the end of each season we get an amount of BossCoins as reward, depending on how many MP's we collected. What will happen after you remove MP's? Will we still get BC's at the end of the season?

    2. At the moment I get always the same number of medals if I beat a human manager, no matter which goal I'm or which goal he is. It's always the same...Till now most managers played with lower goals (goal 16, goal 13, goal 9 etc.) just in order to collect more MP's. Does it mean that with the removal of MP's club goals are becoming irrelevant? Why would I choose to manage WBA or Fulham in EPL? Ofc I will take ManCity or Liverpool...

    Can you explain please... 😁

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  • wakil iscoW Offline
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    replied to MenagerBL on last edited by
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    @menagerbl I think if they counted on medals, then the administration's goal would not become important

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  • timilic7T Offline
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    replied to MenagerBL on last edited by
    #198

    @menagerbl perfect...

    A new osm survey has been received by a friend unfortunately I have not had ...

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  • SpecialOneS Offline
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    replied to MenagerBL on last edited by
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    @menagerbl said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

    @SpecialOne
    I have 2 questions, would be nice if you could answer... 😁

    1. Currently, at the end of each season we get an amount of BossCoins as reward, depending on how many MP's we collected. What will happen after you remove MP's? Will we still get BC's at the end of the season?

    We'll maintain the end of season bonus. It won't be calculated same way they are now, but the amount of BCs that every manager will earn at the end of season will be similar/the same as it is now.

    1. At the moment I get always the same number of medals if I beat a human manager, no matter which goal I'm or which goal he is. It's always the same...Till now most managers played with lower goals (goal 16, goal 13, goal 9 etc.) just in order to collect more MP's. Does it mean that with the removal of MP's club goals are becoming irrelevant? Why would I choose to manage WBA or Fulham in EPL? Ofc I will take ManCity or Liverpool...

    Can you explain please... 😁

    On manager points system, the points you get to beat a goal 1 or a goal 16 is exactly the same, the difference lies on the end of season bonus (that's added on a daily basis on manager points and only at the end of season on Medals system). The bonus you get for finishing on a specific position depends on the goal of the team you played with!

    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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  • MenagerBLM Offline
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    replied to SpecialOne on last edited by
    #200

    @specialone
    Thanks for the answer. 👍

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  • SpecialOneS Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #201

    Is it possible to play OSM competitively and for ranking with medal system?

    Sure it is. As I mentioned before when I gave myself as an example, you can play with both goals, but to be a manager on TOP 100 playing in really competitive leagues with really good managers is risky, because losing a match in an high division will cost you a lot of medals.

    Playing against human managers grants you way more medals than playing against CPUs, this makes the climb way faster, but it's also risky because one defeat can send you down quite a bit due to the amount of points you lose.

    Again it's a manager choice to decide at which rate he wants to climb on rankings and which risks he wants to take.

    I'm playing for several years and now with this new ranking I'll be losing everything?

    That's not correct, when this new medal system was implemented, ALL managers got their manager points converted to medals system. New users started with zero.

    You may say that in a couple days users that were started OSM a couple months before and they jumped immediately to Top positions.... Well, this is what happens in all systems when they are implemented. It's not possible to make a smooth transition when you don't start from scratch.
    There were two options: discard everything and every single user will start from same point (it will have to force a system, where everyone had to be sacked from their leagues, etc, etc) or just do what we've done, convert existing points and risk to have a few managers getting some advantages over others.
    I believe that we all agree that the best option wasn't for sure to reset everything for all users.

    Bottom line, ALL old school managers had their past MPs added to their medals and because of that they started with some advance over new users!

    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill

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  • SpecialOneS Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #202

    One extra note about old school managers and loosing all their hard work over the years

    Manager points ranking was also 'ignoring' a big part of ALL old school managers hard work 😉

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  • RestimatR Offline
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    replied to SpecialOne on last edited by
    #203

    @specialone Okay thank you.
    So it's "risky" means it's quite impossible to be in the Top 10 while playing high level competitions 😞

    • Is it possible to count only medals when leagues are open and not private ?
      (that would create a legit and fair ranking and also discourage cheating)
    • Is it possible to give less medals for the result (win/loss) and more medals according to the division of the opponent ?
    • Is it possible to give more medals against a high division opponent and less medals against a low division opponent ?
    • Is it possible to count medals only on a predetermined account for everyone ? Not like manager points, because I understand the technical heavier aspect of that, but something new where only 1 entry for the ranking system would count. Like a golden slot or something like that. No more confusion either for new players.

    With this kind of ameliorations, wouldn't the medals system be more representative of the managers level, and only allow high division managers that rock it against other high division managers instead of low division managers/CPU's ?
    Quite a shame to see that the best ranked managers mostly play closed leagues against CPU's 😞

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