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  • TagovailoaT Offline
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    #241

    @kloppindakop Sure, itβ€˜s harder to stay on top by higher degressing than progressing. i have level 10 and a loss costs me over 1500 points. you have to play constantly better to rise up and to do this you should get more variable not using just one or two formations. managers who feel better to manipulate their ranking by playing private leagues withoutcompetitioned teams you can not prevent, also when you invest money they have advantage but this is ok cause osm can not live just by advertising.
    the transfersystem is now harder too, of course not realistic but for gameplay more balanced. survival of the fittest forced managers to adapt their strategy, new rules, new challenge.

    Eric Cantona vs Bruce Lee

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    • TagovailoaT Tagovailoa

      @kloppindakop Sure, itβ€˜s harder to stay on top by higher degressing than progressing. i have level 10 and a loss costs me over 1500 points. you have to play constantly better to rise up and to do this you should get more variable not using just one or two formations. managers who feel better to manipulate their ranking by playing private leagues withoutcompetitioned teams you can not prevent, also when you invest money they have advantage but this is ok cause osm can not live just by advertising.
      the transfersystem is now harder too, of course not realistic but for gameplay more balanced. survival of the fittest forced managers to adapt their strategy, new rules, new challenge.

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      wrote on last edited by Majstor Matt
      #242

      @tagovailoa said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

      managers who feel better to manipulate their ranking by playing private leagues withoutcompetitioned teams you can not prevent,

      Yes you can prevent that. You want to play private league? You can, but no manager medals/points for that league. Also a simple fix by giving more value for beating higher ranked managers. A win vs lvl 1 or 2 manager cannot be valued the same as a win vs.lvl 9 or 10 manager. And thos bots that are used in private leagues are mainly always max lvl 5.

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      πŸ₯‰ OSM Nations Cup 2021 - 3rd place (Croatia)
      Crew: Proud to be Croat

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      • Majstor MattM Majstor Matt

        @tagovailoa said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

        managers who feel better to manipulate their ranking by playing private leagues withoutcompetitioned teams you can not prevent,

        Yes you can prevent that. You want to play private league? You can, but no manager medals/points for that league. Also a simple fix by giving more value for beating higher ranked managers. A win vs lvl 1 or 2 manager cannot be valued the same as a win vs.lvl 9 or 10 manager. And thos bots that are used in private leagues are mainly always max lvl 5.

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        #243

        @majstor-matt adapting the AI they can do but then not only for privates leagues. the question is whether managers resigning more rather than step new in when the entire gameplay is harder by AI.

        Eric Cantona vs Bruce Lee

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        • TagovailoaT Offline
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          Tagovailoa
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          #244

          @kloppindakop osm make it already easier by the game consulting guy. everybody has support by tactic forum too, so itβ€˜s not a rocket sciense to earn some medals. maybe they raise the bonus points to enter a top ranking and give newbies some more coins to aim the first task in schedule. i would vote for a level 11 instead making the medals system easier but anyway i am not in charge.

          Eric Cantona vs Bruce Lee

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          • otman347891O Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #245

            @SpecialOne Hello

            Can you explain that the first in a competitive league is more or less -3000 medals when he is first πŸ˜‚.

            I think that in my opinion there is a very big problem in your calculation system and that it will have to be reviewed because there is no logic in it or else you have to play a bot league to win some ?

            Screenshot_20210609-114733.png
            Screenshot_20210609-114746.png
            Screenshot_20210609-114758.png

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            • otman347891O otman347891

              @SpecialOne Hello

              Can you explain that the first in a competitive league is more or less -3000 medals when he is first πŸ˜‚.

              I think that in my opinion there is a very big problem in your calculation system and that it will have to be reviewed because there is no logic in it or else you have to play a bot league to win some ?

              Screenshot_20210609-114733.png
              Screenshot_20210609-114746.png
              Screenshot_20210609-114758.png

              jeffro daviesJ Offline
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              jeffro davies
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              #246

              @otman347891 said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

              @SpecialOne Hello

              Can you explain that the first in a competitive league is more or less -3000 medals when he is first πŸ˜‚.

              I think that in my opinion there is a very big problem in your calculation system and that it will have to be reviewed because there is no logic in it or else you have to play a bot league to win some ?

              Screenshot_20210609-114733.png
              Screenshot_20210609-114746.png
              Screenshot_20210609-114758.png

              The last league I played I finished 3rd with a goal 9 playing against all the top crews in CCW. Very strong leagues and good squad builders. Big difference in squad values at the start in these community leagues between goals.

              I got - 3,855 (minus) medals in it when I finished πŸ˜‚get hardly any for a win and loads per loss throughout the league…….
              But these medals are a worthy replacement for manager points😳πŸ€₯🀑who thinks these are good a replacement need to go in hard leagues and not chump leagues. Whoevers idea this was is a very bright guyπŸ₯΄πŸ˜‚

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              • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                @otman347891 said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                @SpecialOne Hello

                Can you explain that the first in a competitive league is more or less -3000 medals when he is first πŸ˜‚.

                I think that in my opinion there is a very big problem in your calculation system and that it will have to be reviewed because there is no logic in it or else you have to play a bot league to win some ?

                Screenshot_20210609-114733.png
                Screenshot_20210609-114746.png
                Screenshot_20210609-114758.png

                The last league I played I finished 3rd with a goal 9 playing against all the top crews in CCW. Very strong leagues and good squad builders. Big difference in squad values at the start in these community leagues between goals.

                I got - 3,855 (minus) medals in it when I finished πŸ˜‚get hardly any for a win and loads per loss throughout the league…….
                But these medals are a worthy replacement for manager points😳πŸ€₯🀑who thinks these are good a replacement need to go in hard leagues and not chump leagues. Whoevers idea this was is a very bright guyπŸ₯΄πŸ˜‚

                ruipsc5R Offline
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                ruipsc5
                Portuguese Users
                wrote on last edited by
                #247

                @jeffro-davies The new ranking system it's really a joke!

                f5ff53b2-d1b9-4c48-866e-a9846645434c-image.png

                Goal 16... Ranked 4th... Minus 5.725 medals...

                πŸ™„

                Elite Legends Gold Crewboss

                Crew Cup World Staff Member

                AssociaΓ§Γ£o Portuguesa Grupos Staff Member

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                • otman347891O otman347891

                  @SpecialOne Hello

                  Can you explain that the first in a competitive league is more or less -3000 medals when he is first πŸ˜‚.

                  I think that in my opinion there is a very big problem in your calculation system and that it will have to be reviewed because there is no logic in it or else you have to play a bot league to win some ?

                  Screenshot_20210609-114733.png
                  Screenshot_20210609-114746.png
                  Screenshot_20210609-114758.png

                  timilic7T Offline
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                  timilic7
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #248

                  @otman347891 good exemple !!!!!
                  @SpecialOne one reaction please about this?

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                  • jeffro daviesJ jeffro davies

                    @otman347891 said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                    @SpecialOne Hello

                    Can you explain that the first in a competitive league is more or less -3000 medals when he is first πŸ˜‚.

                    I think that in my opinion there is a very big problem in your calculation system and that it will have to be reviewed because there is no logic in it or else you have to play a bot league to win some ?

                    Screenshot_20210609-114733.png
                    Screenshot_20210609-114746.png
                    Screenshot_20210609-114758.png

                    The last league I played I finished 3rd with a goal 9 playing against all the top crews in CCW. Very strong leagues and good squad builders. Big difference in squad values at the start in these community leagues between goals.

                    I got - 3,855 (minus) medals in it when I finished πŸ˜‚get hardly any for a win and loads per loss throughout the league…….
                    But these medals are a worthy replacement for manager points😳πŸ€₯🀑who thinks these are good a replacement need to go in hard leagues and not chump leagues. Whoevers idea this was is a very bright guyπŸ₯΄πŸ˜‚

                    timilic7T Offline
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                    timilic7
                    wrote on last edited by timilic7
                    #249

                    @jeffro-davies πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ€£

                    😭😭😭😭

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                    • ruipsc5R ruipsc5

                      @jeffro-davies The new ranking system it's really a joke!

                      f5ff53b2-d1b9-4c48-866e-a9846645434c-image.png

                      Goal 16... Ranked 4th... Minus 5.725 medals...

                      πŸ™„

                      timilic7T Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #250

                      @ruipsc5 wonderful!!!! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

                      😭😭😭😭😭

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                      • ruipsc5R ruipsc5

                        @jeffro-davies The new ranking system it's really a joke!

                        f5ff53b2-d1b9-4c48-866e-a9846645434c-image.png

                        Goal 16... Ranked 4th... Minus 5.725 medals...

                        πŸ™„

                        Majstor MattM Offline
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                        Majstor Matt
                        wrote on last edited by Majstor Matt
                        #251

                        @ruipsc5 Problem is that you guys are simply not good enough for OSM standards I guess.. I mean, check this pro player in global top 10. We plebs can only dream such majestic wins and goal differences, we are simply not good enough for this game: πŸ˜‰

                        capture-20210609-145943.png

                        alt text
                        πŸ₯‰ OSM Nations Cup 2021 - 3rd place (Croatia)
                        Crew: Proud to be Croat

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                        • Majstor MattM Majstor Matt

                          @ruipsc5 Problem is that you guys are simply not good enough for OSM standards I guess.. I mean, check this pro player in global top 10. We plebs can only dream such majestic wins and goal differences, we are simply not good enough for this game: πŸ˜‰

                          capture-20210609-145943.png

                          Vincent Ado KompanyV Offline
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                          Vincent Ado Kompany
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                          @majstor-matt said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                          @ruipsc5 Problem is that you guys are simply not good enough for OSM standards I guess.. I mean, check this pro player in global top 10. We plebs can only dream such majestic wins and goal differences, we are simply not good enough for this game: πŸ˜‰

                          capture-20210609-145943.png

                          Oo my God. I scored max. 100 goals in one season, I believe with Bayern Munich πŸ˜…

                          TOP G
                          Nagelsmann on fire πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯
                          Tari Gamad πŸ”žπŸ“ŒπŸ’¦

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                          • Dennis S BergkampD Offline
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                            Dennis S Bergkamp
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                            #253

                            it's really pathetic. Look at manager in top 4. 146 goals with a 33.6 mln squad. Number 2 in the league happens to play in all other leagues of this same manager. πŸ€”
                            f92288f3-b644-469d-9d94-6998548055f9-image.png

                            But I must admit I'm really happy with the VIP ticket I received 😐

                            You can either blame everybody else or you can take a look at yourself and determine where you can improve.

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                            • Dennis S BergkampD Dennis S Bergkamp

                              it's really pathetic. Look at manager in top 4. 146 goals with a 33.6 mln squad. Number 2 in the league happens to play in all other leagues of this same manager. πŸ€”
                              f92288f3-b644-469d-9d94-6998548055f9-image.png

                              But I must admit I'm really happy with the VIP ticket I received 😐

                              Ali el padjoA Offline
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                              Ali el padjo
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                              @dennis-s-bergkamp maybe they are 2 friends and playing together , u cant Judge people like that ,, just report him and if u are rightt he will be banned

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                              • Ali el padjoA Ali el padjo

                                @dennis-s-bergkamp maybe they are 2 friends and playing together , u cant Judge people like that ,, just report him and if u are rightt he will be banned

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                                Dennis S Bergkamp
                                English Users
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                                @ali-el-padjo said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                                @dennis-s-bergkamp maybe they are 2 friends and playing together , u cant Judge people like that ,, just report him and if u are rightt he will be banned

                                πŸ˜… True, but I didn't want to make my post to big, cause if you check the majority of other (inactive) accounts they all play in the same leagues. So they are all part of the same big happy friends club πŸ˜‰

                                Just an example of another manager in that league
                                28db58bd-3db7-40c4-bc2a-87a845955c8a-image.png

                                and like you probably also know, you cannot report a manager if you're not playing in the same league.

                                You can either blame everybody else or you can take a look at yourself and determine where you can improve.

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                                • Dennis S BergkampD Dennis S Bergkamp

                                  it's really pathetic. Look at manager in top 4. 146 goals with a 33.6 mln squad. Number 2 in the league happens to play in all other leagues of this same manager. πŸ€”
                                  f92288f3-b644-469d-9d94-6998548055f9-image.png

                                  But I must admit I'm really happy with the VIP ticket I received 😐

                                  timilic7T Offline
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                                  timilic7
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #256

                                  @dennis-s-bergkamp fantastic 😒😒😒

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                                  • jeffro daviesJ Offline
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                                    Someone do me a favour from Admin or staff, I have a VIP ticket and an open slot I’m not planning on using for a while……

                                    Everytime I log into OSM I see it as a MASSIVE insult and a reminder that this pure excuse of a reward is for being in the top 10k for manager points. Just take it away please and put it in the trash. You might aswell have just not gave a reward. Thank you for the 50coins too, it’s very much appreciated πŸ€₯

                                    Infact if you like put me as rank zero and remove all my medals, I’m close to division 10 but I will end up getting very confused what to do with all the 300 BC πŸ€” Decisions, decisions πŸ˜‚

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                                    • Dennis S BergkampD Dennis S Bergkamp

                                      @ali-el-padjo said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                                      @dennis-s-bergkamp maybe they are 2 friends and playing together , u cant Judge people like that ,, just report him and if u are rightt he will be banned

                                      πŸ˜… True, but I didn't want to make my post to big, cause if you check the majority of other (inactive) accounts they all play in the same leagues. So they are all part of the same big happy friends club πŸ˜‰

                                      Just an example of another manager in that league
                                      28db58bd-3db7-40c4-bc2a-87a845955c8a-image.png

                                      and like you probably also know, you cannot report a manager if you're not playing in the same league.

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                                      #258

                                      @dennis-s-bergkamp said in Divisions - Discussion/Questions....:

                                      and like you probably also know, you cannot report a manager if you're not playing in the same league.

                                      I tried reporting some of them via OSM Support mail. I wonder If I will manage to get someone take a look at them.

                                      Medals wouldnt be a problem if they were fair and If we all had same chances. But If they are telling me that only fair chance of getting to higher ranking is by cheating, then I cannot accept it as fair ranking for everyone.

                                      And as for showing skill and level of manager, that will never be true with medals as win vs lvl1 manager can never be valued the same as win vs lvl 10 manager, just as win with Osasuna can never worth the same as win with Real Madrid. Sad ranking indeed when you think about it...

                                      alt text
                                      πŸ₯‰ OSM Nations Cup 2021 - 3rd place (Croatia)
                                      Crew: Proud to be Croat

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                                        #259

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                                        That's pretty 🀑 !

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                                          The first manager in Kosovo ranking is a guy called 'MiftarDuraj'. This guy has 495k medals and has been cheating since this medals were introduced. All managers from slot 1 are also same managers in other 3 slots. And you can easily detect that guy is cheating by the names of accounts (if you are Kosovar). This guy tried to play some official battles in 'Wolves of Kosovo' crew but he was very bad and stopped it (not sure if he got kick or just left) and now is focused to gain more medals. Already in 495k and still not banned...

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