specialists

[Koning Co]

@specialone said in Specific Player Positions - Discussion Topic:

It's your call if you want to have 2 or more specialists to line up when others can't be lined up

The post above can from the topic about the new Specific Player Positions, but I open a topic here because Specialone's comment is not related to the Specific Player Positions.

As far as I know there are no specific players suitable for specialists roles, except an older player as captain. Can someone explain what @specialone means here? Am a missing something about suitable players for set pieces, corners or penalties? For penalties I usually avoid young strikers (<23) inless they scored by far the most goals in my squad.

[Márcio Girilim Santos]

@koningco You already know the general.

The captain must be the oldest player in the line-up (and he must be 30 or older).
For Penalties you must choose a player with some experience as you said.
In free kicks you must put the player with the most attack.
And in the corners a versatile midfielder, that is, who has the same attack and defense note.

[SpecialOne]

@márcio-girilim-santos said in specialists:

@koningco You already know the general.

The captain must be the oldest player in the line-up (and he must be 30 or older).
For Penalties you must choose a player with some experience as you said.
In free kicks you must put the player with the most attack.
And in the corners a versatile midfielder, that is, who has the same attack and defense note.

This is your personal opinion, not a fact, correct?

[Márcio Girilim Santos]

@specialone
Where's the topic of facts?
We already know that when it comes to details, GB says nothing.

I'm sharing the general knowledge ...

[Mαhmouժ Muhαmmαժ]

For me, I chose the oldest player in the squad for captain ( unless he is Messi , as he never is suitable)

In my Wolves team, Ronaldo is the captain unless Pepe plays then I have to choose Pepe or I get a commentator message that Ronaldo is not the right man for the job.

For free kicks its much difficult, has to try many players to get it right
Recently I had good choices when selecting the best winger in the starting lineup

For corners still didn’t get the formula right

[SpecialOne]

@márcio-girilim-santos Yes, Facts are not written anywhere.

I'm sharing the general knowledge ...

And that's what we want... Users to try out and share with community their ideas and discuss results they get.

Create an account, ask for the best tactics, all settings has no fun at all (on our point of view). The fun is on discovering the best settings for each and everyone style of play.

If you ask everything from someone else, it won't be YOU playing, it will be someone's else style/tactics/settings!

Note: @Márcio-Girilim-Santos When you make a post like the one above, you should state something like: "I set..."; "I think..."; "On my opinion...", etc. The way you wrote, it looks like it's something certain/official, and that's not the case

[SpecialOne]

@mαhmouժ-muhαmmαժ said in specialists:

... or I get a commentator message that Ronaldo is not the right man for the job.

These are facts

[Koning Co]

@specialone said in Specific Player Positions - Discussion Topic:
It's your call if you want to have 2 or more specialists to line up when others can't be lined up

But let's get back on topic. Can you choose specific players in your line-up because they are a good specialist?

I didn't know that, except for an old player as captain.

[SpecialOne]

@koningco There's a bonus on simulations for the better specialists possible according with your starting 11. Same way as there's a bonus for a minimum of 6 players of same nationality and players on their correct positions.

The total weight of bonus from below features is pretty much the same.

• specialists (4 specialists) - individual per specialist
• nationality (minimum 6 players same nationality) - bonus only if you've at least 6
• specific positions (11 correct players) - individual player

[Joe McNorthMan]

@márcio-girilim-santos said in specialists:

@koningco You already know the general.

The captain must be the oldest player in the line-up (and he must be 30 or older).

Not necessarily, could be the other way around.

Could be the youngest and most talented player as well, someone that is trustworthy of that title, it's the same in OSM too, not necessarily the age.

If someone in your squad has been performing exceptionally good, why not make him the captain.

See the results, how he plays, what the feedback from the commentator after the game is, and then decide if a certain player is fit for the spot.

Regards xD

[Koning Co]

@specialone So about specialists: we have to pick the best specialist in our starting eleven. And only if we pick the right player then we will receive the bonus for that specialist?

So if I have Lewandowski (age 32, skill 105), Varane (age 27, skill 102) and Kanté (age 29, skill 109) in my squad than I will have to pick the right guy as captain to get the bonus. Kanté is probably a better captain then Varane, but I won't get any bonus in case Lewandowski is the best captain?

[Vinayak Singh Mehra]

@koningco
There is no real-life captaincy skill in OSM. I think a perfect choice would be a player who is old and has experience with the team. Eg- 29 year De Bruyne with more team experience with Man City vs Jordan Henderson 30 years with lesser experience with City (as an example he plays for City) I would choose Kevin. But in an example in which you have players with maximum age 24 but spent enough time with team and Agüero 32 years old but less experience with team, I would still choose Sergio Kun.

[Wenger Wise]

@koningco everything below is my opinion/experience

captain − just the oldest player (even if his rating is lower by 10-20 points from your best player, and the difference is only a year)
about 30+ years - i dont know; it can be checked in the All-Star League (26 years league )
when I win matches, commentators can still say that my best player is a bad captain, sometimes vice versa - the player with the best rating "perfect captain, you can't imagine better" or something like that; on the basis of this, I concluded: or is it realism, where commentators can say anything and do not need to be believed, or () GB slightly unfinished and thrown it at this point
penalty taker − just your best striker (again: even if you have midfielder with 85 overall i choose striker with 69 attack, for example, if i play with 1 forward)
he may not score 2 penalties in a row or you will not hit them at all, but such a choice, as I understand it, gives a bonus of specialists, because choosing the best midfielder with highest attack or overall, the commentators condemned this choice; but I could be wrong, as they are not the best source
with free-kicks and corners − i dont know; logically free-kicks for midfielder or striker with best attack skill, corners for the best midfielder with highest overall; but somewhere here i saw another valid opinion: free-kicks for the best midfielder with highest overall and corners for midfielder with best attack skill
generally speaking the correct answer was in the old Tactics Request, but it disappeared...
there was a lot of other useful things, and not like now "how to play against 442b, here is my lineup..."

[Koning Co]

@wenger-wise What do you do when you have 2 players which have the same high age? Will you make the player on the most central position on the pitch captain or will you make the player with a few more points in skills the captain? For example when you have two 33 year old potential captains: a DR with 103 skill or a MC with 101 skill?

[Wenger Wise]

@koningco age - 1st priority, skill - 2nd. If both parameters are equal, also important dont give to the player all tasks (it seems that assigning more than two roles to the player harms the bonus, not sure). For this reason i prefer defenders or goalkeepers as a captains. Also if both parameters are equal, i pay attention to the average rating (perfomance). But 99% it doesn't make sense as well as most central position or not
a bigger problem for me is choosing a corner or free kick specialist if i have to choose from two of these midfielders:

btw, congrats with the addition of tips to the browser version ;D I suppose your persistence paid off and this is a very useful thing, including for the selection of specialists

[Koning Co]

@wenger-wise When I have doubts about the free kick taker I always picked the guy that scored more often.

One of the difficult guys in many of my teams is Cristiano Ronaldo. He is most of the time my best captain and also penalty taker. When it comes to free kicks I possibly shouldn't select him there, but today I found out that Gnabry was also the wrong choice.

I am happy to see the comments in the web version now. I missed the comments most of the days, because I only use the app about once per week (the app is much slower than the web version).

[Vinayak Singh Mehra]

Today in the tips, I learnt that always prefer some midfielder for corner kicks. Neither a forward nor any defender.

[Vinayak Singh Mehra]

Two other tips I learnt: Never give a player more than 2 specialist roles, or try giving not more than 1 also, or the player becomes preoccupied.
Counter-attack is not good on 3-4-3 B.

Note: These tips were given by the tipster, so don't think I'm saying by myself.

[Vinayak Singh Mehra]

Another one: 4-3-3 formations are the best with wing play that the tipster told me 2 times that he loved the style of play.

[Wenger Wise]

@koningco yeah... i have average smartphone, but the loading time averages 30 seconds
in my understanding, this should be, if not an order of magnitude, then many times faster