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    @jetont said in OSM Engine 'stole' me:

    SpecialOne created this topic but didn't answer anymore to any of us.

    This is not a topic to report issues with simulations...

    This is a topic for everone that feels the need to express his frustration because he wasn't lucky, because someone was better than him even with a weaker team and a way defensive tactic managed to beat him

    Idea of this topic was to gather managers talking about the reasons that could lead to a result completelly different of the expected.

    Taking as example the match that @MenagerBL posted earlier today he doesn't says anything about squads neither the way he played... but I would assume that he had quite good attackers (3 shots/3 goals), his opponent would probably played really defensive and slow tempo, lot of passing to have such an huge possession.... etc, etc...
    So, that wouldn't be a steal, but one tactic really effective from his side!

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    @specialone said in OSM Engine 'stole' me:

    @jetont said in OSM Engine 'stole' me:

    SpecialOne created this topic but didn't answer anymore to any of us.

    This is not a topic to report issues with simulations...

    This is a topic for everone that feels the need to express his frustration because he wasn't lucky, because someone was better than him even with a weaker team and a way defensive tactic managed to beat him

    Idea of this topic was to gather managers talking about the reasons that could lead to a result completelly different of the expected.

    I wonder what's the point of opening a topic to express frustrations if none of the admins give feedback?
    I think the dialogue between the managers is useful but if there is only that it is normal that the managers believe that the results of the games are random.

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    • Vincent Ado KompanyV Vincent Ado Kompany

      @markusrw5
      Did you win this game 😀?

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      @ado-hackovic no 😢

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      • Zé TigresaZ Offline
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        Again, it's the second time this week 🙃
        Draw 1-1

        Screenshot_2022-05-29-19-47-11-449_com.gamebasics.osm.jpg

        Campeão Nacional 20/21🏆⚽

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        • Zé TigresaZ Zé Tigresa

          Again, it's the second time this week 🙃
          Draw 1-1

          Screenshot_2022-05-29-19-47-11-449_com.gamebasics.osm.jpg

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          @zé-tigresa 😲 🙄 What is your team

          Losing is not a reason for defeat, but a reason to learn from it

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          • Zé TigresaZ Zé Tigresa

            Again, it's the second time this week 🙃
            Draw 1-1

            Screenshot_2022-05-29-19-47-11-449_com.gamebasics.osm.jpg

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            @zé-tigresa I won 7_0

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            Losing is not a reason for defeat, but a reason to learn from it

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            • İbrahim Fuchsİ İbrahim Fuchs

              @zé-tigresa I won 7_0

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              @i̇brahim-fuchs nice

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              • P Precious FC

                @i̇brahim-fuchs nice

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                @precious-fc what exactly? 7:0 against CPU? 🙂

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                • MarkusRW5M MarkusRW5

                  @precious-fc what exactly? 7:0 against CPU? 🙂

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                  @markusrw5 👍 🙄

                  Losing is not a reason for defeat, but a reason to learn from it

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                  • MarkusRW5M MarkusRW5

                    @precious-fc what exactly? 7:0 against CPU? 🙂

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                    @markusrw5 said in OSM Engine 'stole' me:

                    @precious-fc what exactly? 7:0 against CPU? 🙂

                    🤦

                    Losing is not a reason for defeat, but a reason to learn from it

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                      @i̇brahim-fuchs nice

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                      @precious-fc you are the best 😁 😍

                      Losing is not a reason for defeat, but a reason to learn from it

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                        It's clear that OSM rewards amateur coaches even if they deserve to be defeated
                        The difference in strength in my favor was 95, and the 83 opponent who scored the goal was 69 Although my goalkeeper strength is 95.
                        All we take from that should improve the offensive line

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                        • Ahmed Khaled10A Ahmed Khaled10

                          It's clear that OSM rewards amateur coaches even if they deserve to be defeated
                          The difference in strength in my favor was 95, and the 83 opponent who scored the goal was 69 Although my goalkeeper strength is 95.
                          All we take from that should improve the offensive line

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                          @ahmḛɗ-khalḛɗ10 Dude, I think this was more so due to tactics. Your opponent was using 4-2-3-1 against your 4-3-3 A.
                          4-2-3-1 is quite good for defense, as it forms 3 triangles on the pitch. With a wide midfield, it would be difficult for your 3 forwards to break through it to score. Also, if your midfielders push forward and your opponent counter-attacks, that would create more good chances to score. Your goalkeeper might've been really good- but that doesn't mean that it will always stop the goals from weaker forwards. One more thing, if the goal was scored in the second leg, then it might also be due to your tired players, cause it's known that playing against 4-2-3-1 is tiring and that's why clubs like PSG and Barcelona adopt this formation.

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                            @ahmḛɗ-khalḛɗ10 Dude, I think this was more so due to tactics. Your opponent was using 4-2-3-1 against your 4-3-3 A.
                            4-2-3-1 is quite good for defense, as it forms 3 triangles on the pitch. With a wide midfield, it would be difficult for your 3 forwards to break through it to score. Also, if your midfielders push forward and your opponent counter-attacks, that would create more good chances to score. Your goalkeeper might've been really good- but that doesn't mean that it will always stop the goals from weaker forwards. One more thing, if the goal was scored in the second leg, then it might also be due to your tired players, cause it's known that playing against 4-2-3-1 is tiring and that's why clubs like PSG and Barcelona adopt this formation.

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                            @astroblade said in OSM Engine 'stole' me:

                            4-2-3-1 is quite good for defense, as it forms 3 triangles on the pitch. With a wide midfield, it would be difficult for your 3 forwards to break through it to score. Also, if your midfielders push forward and your opponent counter-attacks, that would create more good chances to score. Your goalkeeper might've been really good- but that doesn't mean that it will always stop the goals from weaker forwards. One more thing, if the goal was scored in the second leg, then it might also be due to your tired players, cause it's known that playing against 4-2-3-1 is tiring and that's why clubs like PSG and Barcelona adopt this formation.

                            I know this my friend, and usually I don't play offensive line against 4231, but the difference in strength was so great that the opponent put the line-up 10 hours before the match and doesn't care if he wins or loses

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                            • Ahmed Khaled10A Ahmed Khaled10

                              @astroblade said in OSM Engine 'stole' me:

                              4-2-3-1 is quite good for defense, as it forms 3 triangles on the pitch. With a wide midfield, it would be difficult for your 3 forwards to break through it to score. Also, if your midfielders push forward and your opponent counter-attacks, that would create more good chances to score. Your goalkeeper might've been really good- but that doesn't mean that it will always stop the goals from weaker forwards. One more thing, if the goal was scored in the second leg, then it might also be due to your tired players, cause it's known that playing against 4-2-3-1 is tiring and that's why clubs like PSG and Barcelona adopt this formation.

                              I know this my friend, and usually I don't play offensive line against 4231, but the difference in strength was so great that the opponent put the line-up 10 hours before the match and doesn't care if he wins or loses

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                              @ahmḛɗ-khalḛɗ10 I also noticed that your opponent had tackling set to normal/aggressive while you had it to careful. That also affected the result. I think your opponent had pressing a little high, so the tackling might be normal.

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                                Good evening.

                                You guys must do something about the game simulator.
                                Ridiculous situations keep happening over and over again and it simply kills or drive and motivation to play.

                                When the opponent invests time in the game, build a strong squad and is better tactically than you, all you have to do is keep trying to be better.

                                But when something like what I'm about to show you happen... it just shows how random this game is and illogical.

                                Yesterday:

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                                Easy win having a slight better team.

                                Today:
                                My team improved from 84 to 94,or so, and my opponent almost didn't use the transfer madness.
                                The opponents team has an overall of 81.
                                He only had 10 players on the pitch.
                                A striker played as midfielder.
                                He only has 4 defenders, one of them awith an overall of 63.
                                I use the same tactic that has beaten stronger 451s in the past at home and away.

                                The result:

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                                I'm a very experienced player, a leader of a Top 20 crew, I invest time playing other games in the offer wall, I invest money when I don't have enough BC's to be competitive on hard leagues where I am representing my crew and I am really finding it difficult to accept this kind of situations.

                                You must start to protect the players that invest their time.
                                You keep on protecting the players that forget to line up and get a draw and sometimes a win having 50 or 60 overall players.
                                STOP doing that! Just STOP, please!
                                I don't know what you guys are doing in order to improve the game, but it's not enough.
                                I'm really disappointed with you guys and it makes me think whether I should or shouldn't continue my time with OSM.

                                It's just sad.

                                Best regards

                                Rui

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                                • ruipsc5R ruipsc5

                                  Good evening.

                                  You guys must do something about the game simulator.
                                  Ridiculous situations keep happening over and over again and it simply kills or drive and motivation to play.

                                  When the opponent invests time in the game, build a strong squad and is better tactically than you, all you have to do is keep trying to be better.

                                  But when something like what I'm about to show you happen... it just shows how random this game is and illogical.

                                  Yesterday:

                                  52e40c1b-de20-4ef3-8d2a-7405146794e1-image.png

                                  Easy win having a slight better team.

                                  Today:
                                  My team improved from 84 to 94,or so, and my opponent almost didn't use the transfer madness.
                                  The opponents team has an overall of 81.
                                  He only had 10 players on the pitch.
                                  A striker played as midfielder.
                                  He only has 4 defenders, one of them awith an overall of 63.
                                  I use the same tactic that has beaten stronger 451s in the past at home and away.

                                  The result:

                                  f18c5c66-24bc-4298-aaff-c307a52b7ee3-image.png

                                  I'm a very experienced player, a leader of a Top 20 crew, I invest time playing other games in the offer wall, I invest money when I don't have enough BC's to be competitive on hard leagues where I am representing my crew and I am really finding it difficult to accept this kind of situations.

                                  You must start to protect the players that invest their time.
                                  You keep on protecting the players that forget to line up and get a draw and sometimes a win having 50 or 60 overall players.
                                  STOP doing that! Just STOP, please!
                                  I don't know what you guys are doing in order to improve the game, but it's not enough.
                                  I'm really disappointed with you guys and it makes me think whether I should or shouldn't continue my time with OSM.

                                  It's just sad.

                                  Best regards

                                  Rui

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                                  @ruipsc5 I totally agree with you.
                                  This has been the situation with me for 3 months now.
                                  I can't "honestly" beat anyone away, no matter how stronger or weaker I am than my opponents. It happens that I win when the opponent gets a red card, or when the engine "takes pity"

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                                    Hey Rui

                                    This is why I was ready to quit and this is why Andy quit 😛 so you are experiencing this too now 😛

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                                    • Vincent Ado KompanyV Vincent Ado Kompany

                                      @ruipsc5 I totally agree with you.
                                      This has been the situation with me for 3 months now.
                                      I can't "honestly" beat anyone away, no matter how stronger or weaker I am than my opponents. It happens that I win when the opponent gets a red card, or when the engine "takes pity"

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                                      @ado-hackovic Thanks, Ado!

                                      It's like.. Imagine you are the manager and you select a team.
                                      And then one of the player says: "Gaffer, there is a player missing..."
                                      "No problem! Hey, you - appoints to a random player - today you play as midfielder!"
                                      And the player replies: "But... but... I'm a goalkeeper!"
                                      And the manager continues: "No problem! Trust yourself!".
                                      And other player says: "But the Central Defender is a kid from the youth who is 12 years old and we don't have any subs..."

                                      "No problem! We will be ok!".

                                      And then this team wins.

                                      This is OSM nowadays...

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                                      • JetonT.J JetonT.

                                        Hey Rui

                                        This is why I was ready to quit and this is why Andy quit 😛 so you are experiencing this too now 😛

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                                        @jetont Totally, Jet! So unreal... The engine is totally crazy. It makes no sense at all... 😞

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                                          @ruipsc5 what tactics do you use to 451 against stronger teams? Say please

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