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Hi !
At first, don't get angry my friend, rules are going to be respected
Secondly, rules also say to talk first with the other captain but I've received anything yet from you.
Thirdly, I'm not pretty sure that you respected the rule to create the championship in time, I was waiting for it and then I had to leave...
Fourthly, we'll discuss with you and Adilmo about this change of objective 5 at 19h, 30 minutes before the creation and the beginning of the championship....could you blame us for not going on this forum for some minutes/hours ?
In a sense we respected the rule stated above: Pitchou (5) = SV Horn. It was written by Adilmo at 19h too, I saw this message but not the one which followed !So don't worry my friend, rules are going to be respected, we'll just determine what was the rule which had to need apply with Adilmo and you in private, it's no use to make a public affair here, we're mature and honest people here
"Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life." Confucius
"The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." Mahatma Gandhi
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." MLK -
Hi !
At first, don't get angry my friend, rules are going to be respected
Secondly, rules also say to talk first with the other captain but I've received anything yet from you.
Thirdly, I'm not pretty sure that you respected the rule to create the championship in time, I was waiting for it and then I had to leave...
Fourthly, we'll discuss with you and Adilmo about this change of objective 5 at 19h, 30 minutes before the creation and the beginning of the championship....could you blame us for not going on this forum for some minutes/hours ?
In a sense we respected the rule stated above: Pitchou (5) = SV Horn. It was written by Adilmo at 19h too, I saw this message but not the one which followed !So don't worry my friend, rules are going to be respected, we'll just determine what was the rule which had to need apply with Adilmo and you in private, it's no use to make a public affair here, we're mature and honest people here
Hi !
At first, don't get angry my friend, rules are going to be respected
Secondly, rules also say to talk first with the other captain but I've received anything yet from you.
Thirdly, I'm not pretty sure that you respected the rule to create the championship in time, I was waiting for it and then I had to leave...
Fourthly, we'll discuss with you and Adilmo about this change of objective 5 at 19h, 30 minutes before the creation and the beginning of the championship....could you blame us for not going on this forum for some minutes/hours ?
In a sense we respected the rule stated above: Pitchou (5) = SV Horn. It was written by Adilmo at 19h too, I saw this message but not the one which followed !
So don't worry my friend, rules are going to be respected, we'll just determine what was the ruleThe rules are not respected we have already spoken with admilio and has told us that it is not sanction. The rule is clear Pick the wrong team with the same goal will cost - 250 points and nothing has been sanctioned
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@Uruguay_2012 @Restimat @Nicolás31
No penalty!!!
In adversity, some give up, while others hit records. Ayrton Senna
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@Uruguay_2012 @Restimat @Nicolás31
No penalty!!!
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@Uruguay_2012 @Restimat @Nicolás31
No penalty!!!
@Adilmo-Rocha dont incite me to talk in the forum XD
Now seriously, if youll do a change, do it with time and notify to the captains for mp.
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@Restimat @Nicolás31 @Uruguay_2012
This tournament is in its 4th edition, of which I have organized the last 3, including this one. In all of them, we did not have any problem, since everyone knew how to play with Fair Play.
It is clear that what has happened can not at any moment be considered a fault by the teams. So, Uruguay is looking to win off the field!
On 02/01 - 13:35 (server), I posted the draw of the teams, held at that moment, as you can see here: Evidence 1
On 04/01, I checked the draw with a friend and there was no change, so I posted the creation information for the leagues at 18:55 (server), as you can see here: Evidence 2
Only at 19:43 I was alerted that the league had been updated, when one of the moderators was to create the league. Immediately I posted the change, but it was not possible to warn everyone !!! As the main change was the exchange of the G5, I saw no problem in that regard.
For this reason, there is no need for penalties. Nobody is guilty of system updating a league during the day and not at dawn !!!
Now, continue with the battles and win the best on the field !!!
Good luck!!!
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ACKNOWLEDGMENT
I wanted to make a public thanks to Murat (@mrtgll33)
During that time I was absent, I did everything I could to keep up with the tournaments (WNT and WCC) and did very well!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING, MY FRIEND!!!
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ACKNOWLEDGMENT
I wanted to make a public thanks to Murat (@mrtgll33)
During that time I was absent, I did everything I could to keep up with the tournaments (WNT and WCC) and did very well!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING, MY FRIEND!!!
@Adilmo-Rocha Always mate
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@Restimat @Nicolás31 @Uruguay_2012
This tournament is in its 4th edition, of which I have organized the last 3, including this one. In all of them, we did not have any problem, since everyone knew how to play with Fair Play.
It is clear that what has happened can not at any moment be considered a fault by the teams. So, Uruguay is looking to win off the field!
On 02/01 - 13:35 (server), I posted the draw of the teams, held at that moment, as you can see here: Evidence 1
On 04/01, I checked the draw with a friend and there was no change, so I posted the creation information for the leagues at 18:55 (server), as you can see here: Evidence 2
Only at 19:43 I was alerted that the league had been updated, when one of the moderators was to create the league. Immediately I posted the change, but it was not possible to warn everyone !!! As the main change was the exchange of the G5, I saw no problem in that regard.
For this reason, there is no need for penalties. Nobody is guilty of system updating a league during the day and not at dawn !!!
Now, continue with the battles and win the best on the field !!!
Good luck!!!
And we started again...
Uruguay isn't trying to win off the field, we only are trying to charge the sanctions that our opponents make as everyone.Our Battles:
Against Spain nobody denounced something because dont happened nothing wrong
Against Poland we received two sanctions and we didnt complain.
Agianst Morocco we denounced something that everybody knowed was illegal.
Against Argentina, they was who denounced, not us.
Now, against Belgium, we denounced but always we have been know that in this case maybe they dont saw the change like others team, so we decided let pass the sanction. Im not lying, at first we wanted the sanction but after, thinking, we decided forget the affair.So, we have been denonced in two times and we denonced our rivals in two times.
This is my prove to show to everyone and special, to @Adilmo-Rocha, that Uruguay isnt trying to win off the field, only we are trying to follow the rules that you put like everyone.And in the future, Adilmo, try to measure your words, for respect and for dont do false accusations again.
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And we started again...
Uruguay isn't trying to win off the field, we only are trying to charge the sanctions that our opponents make as everyone.Our Battles:
Against Spain nobody denounced something because dont happened nothing wrong
Against Poland we received two sanctions and we didnt complain.
Agianst Morocco we denounced something that everybody knowed was illegal.
Against Argentina, they was who denounced, not us.
Now, against Belgium, we denounced but always we have been know that in this case maybe they dont saw the change like others team, so we decided let pass the sanction. Im not lying, at first we wanted the sanction but after, thinking, we decided forget the affair.So, we have been denonced in two times and we denonced our rivals in two times.
This is my prove to show to everyone and special, to @Adilmo-Rocha, that Uruguay isnt trying to win off the field, only we are trying to follow the rules that you put like everyone.And in the future, Adilmo, try to measure your words, for respect and for dont do false accusations again.
You get what you give!
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@Hugo-Marcel-Carrasco
You can not imagine all the pressure and messages I received from your friends ... and I will not divulge them!
This matter for me is solved!
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@Hugo-Marcel-Carrasco @Nicolás31 @Uruguay_2012
First of all, I have nothing against Uruguay or its team. I think it's great that his performance has improved and it's being one of the great surprises of the tournament.
Secondly, any complaint must be dealt with. And that's what I did.
Thirdly, what had happened with the league and the draw of the teams was clear, so there would be no reason for such pressure for penalty!
The only thing that has bothered me a lot is the way I am approached by some of you. I treat everyone with respect. There were 24 teams with 5 managers who are often different each time round, not to mention those in charge of the nations and with none of them I had any problems.
I'm not accusing you of anything. I just raised the idea that it seems to be this from the pressure they make.
All rules are being fulfilled in full and will continue to be.
I hope we put an end to it all and can continue without any further problems. For my part, I have no impediment and if something did not please you, I apologize!
In adversity, some give up, while others hit records. Ayrton Senna
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@Hugo-Marcel-Carrasco @Nicolás31 @Uruguay_2012
First of all, I have nothing against Uruguay or its team. I think it's great that his performance has improved and it's being one of the great surprises of the tournament.
Secondly, any complaint must be dealt with. And that's what I did.
Thirdly, what had happened with the league and the draw of the teams was clear, so there would be no reason for such pressure for penalty!
The only thing that has bothered me a lot is the way I am approached by some of you. I treat everyone with respect. There were 24 teams with 5 managers who are often different each time round, not to mention those in charge of the nations and with none of them I had any problems.
I'm not accusing you of anything. I just raised the idea that it seems to be this from the pressure they make.
All rules are being fulfilled in full and will continue to be.
I hope we put an end to it all and can continue without any further problems. For my part, I have no impediment and if something did not please you, I apologize!
@Adilmo-Rocha This tournament and organization is absolutely wonderful Adilmo, always respected
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@Hugo-Marcel-Carrasco @Nicolás31 @Uruguay_2012
First of all, I have nothing against Uruguay or its team. I think it's great that his performance has improved and it's being one of the great surprises of the tournament.
Secondly, any complaint must be dealt with. And that's what I did.
Thirdly, what had happened with the league and the draw of the teams was clear, so there would be no reason for such pressure for penalty!
The only thing that has bothered me a lot is the way I am approached by some of you. I treat everyone with respect. There were 24 teams with 5 managers who are often different each time round, not to mention those in charge of the nations and with none of them I had any problems.
I'm not accusing you of anything. I just raised the idea that it seems to be this from the pressure they make.
All rules are being fulfilled in full and will continue to be.
I hope we put an end to it all and can continue without any further problems. For my part, I have no impediment and if something did not please you, I apologize!
@Adilmo-Rocha
Good evening, AdilmoI am writing this by the controversy of the sanction claimed by Uruguay.
I understand very well the problem arisen by the update of the league, and although I agree with the final decision not to sanction those who made mistakes of equipment when not knowing of the new draw, I think that a organizer of a competition can not post in his "official resolution" some things like the one that has you put. Cito:"In all of them, we did not have any problem, since everyone knew how to play with Fair Play.
It is clear that what happened at any moment is considered to be fault by the teams. So, Uruguay is looking to win off the field! "Although the first sentence is an "indirect" way of accusing Uruguay of not using the Fair Play, which is also not very correct, the last sentence is something that an organizer should never write, because should maintain calm and neutrality at all times.
Uruguay claimed a sanction, which exists according to the regulation published by organization. The decision not to apply it exceptionally, due to the updating, seems correct to me too, but whenever it is explained as such, and not showing like if Uruguay claimed something non-existent, which is not true.
Finally, only to add that the captains of Uruguay and Belgium had already spoken to each other and they saw it both logical not to apply the penalty due to the circumstances, so all those accusations about Fair Play of Uruguay by the Organization are quite offensive.
I hope this is understood as a clarification and a request for greater care in the organization's communications.
I´m sure that everything will continues without any problems
Thanks, and good luck to all selections !!
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@Adilmo-Rocha
Good evening, AdilmoI am writing this by the controversy of the sanction claimed by Uruguay.
I understand very well the problem arisen by the update of the league, and although I agree with the final decision not to sanction those who made mistakes of equipment when not knowing of the new draw, I think that a organizer of a competition can not post in his "official resolution" some things like the one that has you put. Cito:"In all of them, we did not have any problem, since everyone knew how to play with Fair Play.
It is clear that what happened at any moment is considered to be fault by the teams. So, Uruguay is looking to win off the field! "Although the first sentence is an "indirect" way of accusing Uruguay of not using the Fair Play, which is also not very correct, the last sentence is something that an organizer should never write, because should maintain calm and neutrality at all times.
Uruguay claimed a sanction, which exists according to the regulation published by organization. The decision not to apply it exceptionally, due to the updating, seems correct to me too, but whenever it is explained as such, and not showing like if Uruguay claimed something non-existent, which is not true.
Finally, only to add that the captains of Uruguay and Belgium had already spoken to each other and they saw it both logical not to apply the penalty due to the circumstances, so all those accusations about Fair Play of Uruguay by the Organization are quite offensive.
I hope this is understood as a clarification and a request for greater care in the organization's communications.
I´m sure that everything will continues without any problemsThanks, and good luck to all selections !!
Hi Jacobo!
On 03/01 after noon - Uruguay_2012 came to ask me if there would be a penalty for Belgium for delay in posting the alignment; I said we would give more time, since some were having difficulty posting their alignments.
On 04/01, shortly after the league's creation - Uruguay_2012 came telling me that Belgium committed a penalty when catching the wrong team. At the same time, I explained that there would be no penalty, since the exchange information of the lottery was made very early on.
He kept insisting that it was a penalty! I again said that the league had been updated all of a sudden!
On the same day 04/01, soon after the message of Uruguay_2012 - Nicolás31 came by PM telling me that Belgium committed a penalty and that we did not start again !!! I replied to him that there was no penalty and period.
It was the third time they had spoken of a penalty, and I had already explained to Uruguay_2012.
Nicolás31 then continued saying that then he could do anything that there would be no penalty. I then asked him to stop the confusion because there would be no penalty due to the exchange of teams.
Not satisfied, Uruguay_2012 came to this topic and published that here we do not respect the rules, again demanding compliance!
This time, the person in charge of Belgium again explained everything!
Again Uruguay_2012 comes to say that the rules are not respected !!!
Nicolás31 then threatens me saying not to provoke him to write in the forum, being that I just replied that there would be no penalty!
And keep saying that I should do things in advance !!!
Once again I explain what happened, this time as a teacher !!!
Then another (Hugo Marcel Carrasco) appears to again say that he lacked respect and that the tournament is not serious !!!
UFA !!! Do you really think I missed you with respect? I am a mere manager making every effort to bring fun to everyone ... without receiving anything for it ... and really think I missed it with respect ???
I really do not know who deserves an apology! (Mine has already been done!)
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adilmo with all respect we went to the sanction was in Belgium when by mistake took our team, then with the Uruguay team think that your answer does not sanction to Belgium is very fair because had two alignments, but at the moment all was very fast and had a rule that says 250 - bad team we do not put this rule written by wnt by sense common is just the decision taken yours Admilio believe that We misconceive us better to leave these issues and return to play is a game and we agree not to punish Belgium does not deserve it.
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adilmo with all respect we went to the sanction was in Belgium when by mistake took our team, then with the Uruguay team think that your answer does not sanction to Belgium is very fair because had two alignments, but at the moment all was very fast and had a rule that says 250 - bad team we do not put this rule written by wnt by sense common is just the decision taken yours Admilio believe that We misconceive us better to leave these issues and return to play is a game and we agree not to punish Belgium does not deserve it.
I agree! Let's move on!
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