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@Acantha If my tactics bad, i have worse istatistic than other team. Tactics are good but luck isnt good. I dont agree with you. I said this game has %40 tactic and %60 luck. But nowadays; %20 tactic and %80 luck. Really broken game engine, please nobody defend this system.
@Bahadır-K said in the game engine is broken:
@peenagees 15(me) vs 4 shot, 72(me) vs 28 possesion. But i lost 2-0?? Game engine is broken i think with last uptade(s)
@Bahadır-K said in the game engine is broken:
@Acantha If my tactics bad, i have worse istatistic than other team. Tactics are good but luck isnt good. I dont agree with you. I said this game has %40 tactic and %60 luck. But nowadays; %20 tactic and %80 luck. Really broken game engine, please nobody defend this system.I honestly find it so hard to understand this kind of statements , especially coming from a experienced manager like yourself. I have been reading all your posts and advices on the Tactics Requests topic and I was really very glad about it and thank you for your support. But now I'm confused... If you actually believe that 80% of the game engine's results are based on pure luck then how come you spend time on explaining and giving tactical advices to other managers about their matches? You could just tell them : Best of luck mate, that's all you need!
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@Bahadır-K said in the game engine is broken:
@peenagees 15(me) vs 4 shot, 72(me) vs 28 possesion. But i lost 2-0?? Game engine is broken i think with last uptade(s)
@Bahadır-K said in the game engine is broken:
@Acantha If my tactics bad, i have worse istatistic than other team. Tactics are good but luck isnt good. I dont agree with you. I said this game has %40 tactic and %60 luck. But nowadays; %20 tactic and %80 luck. Really broken game engine, please nobody defend this system.I honestly find it so hard to understand this kind of statements , especially coming from a experienced manager like yourself. I have been reading all your posts and advices on the Tactics Requests topic and I was really very glad about it and thank you for your support. But now I'm confused... If you actually believe that 80% of the game engine's results are based on pure luck then how come you spend time on explaining and giving tactical advices to other managers about their matches? You could just tell them : Best of luck mate, that's all you need!
@SUPERNOVA-8 i Said nowadays. Starting this luck thing at Egypt leauge in crew battle. We play 10 match and i play good in 9 match. But result? 2 win, 3 draw, 5 lose. I didnt that bad results continiusly any leauge or any tournement
Espicially i have 93 quality gk, but 70-80 fw's always succesful shot? I am experienced manager of course and win ratio 75-76 but this Egypt league has %80 luck i think. I think same now too. Because i came this topic and we are not alone dudeDefansif dünyamda zorlu rakip mi? Şansa ihtiyacı olacak.
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@SUPERNOVA-8 i Said nowadays. Starting this luck thing at Egypt leauge in crew battle. We play 10 match and i play good in 9 match. But result? 2 win, 3 draw, 5 lose. I didnt that bad results continiusly any leauge or any tournement
Espicially i have 93 quality gk, but 70-80 fw's always succesful shot? I am experienced manager of course and win ratio 75-76 but this Egypt league has %80 luck i think. I think same now too. Because i came this topic and we are not alone dude@Bahadır-K You wrote : " I played good " . So what am I supposed to do now? Just take your word for it?
I'm not alone either mate when I say that this is just a game that I very much enjoy playing and that I have learnt to be pleased and happy with every win I get but also to take on the chin any of my losses. Furthermore every manager has a personal game strategy or way of thinking on OSM, which of course makes sense.
So if you want , next time you'll get a "weird" result on your match you can bring the data and screens of your own tactics and opponent's ( Spy screenshot ) , the result/statistics of the match and we can have a nice friendly discussion. Just think about it ..
And by the way... I'm a female manager so you can't call me a dude ! L
L Some of you are really trying to change my gender ... 
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@SUPERNOVA-8 i Said nowadays. Starting this luck thing at Egypt leauge in crew battle. We play 10 match and i play good in 9 match. But result? 2 win, 3 draw, 5 lose. I didnt that bad results continiusly any leauge or any tournement
Espicially i have 93 quality gk, but 70-80 fw's always succesful shot? I am experienced manager of course and win ratio 75-76 but this Egypt league has %80 luck i think. I think same now too. Because i came this topic and we are not alone dude@Bahadır-K Hi mate
I played on the crew battle at the Egyptian league. The league finished two days ago and the results were 9 wins and 1 lose for me. The teams were not all equal but some were and has nothing to do, that in the Egyptian league has 80% luck. Sometimes my team was very good from the opponent but to win the league I used not an attacking/aggressive tactic but a normal tactic because when I saw his lineup, he has set his lineup as deff., but sometimes my team was better than the opponent but again I put a normal tactic, because of the opponent lineup and not an attacking/aggressive tactic.
On the crew, battle depends on with which crew are you playing and how the managers are. The statistic doesn't tell you, that you had a good match. The loses that you had in the Egyptian league mean that the opponent countered your tactic and he did very well.
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You guys. Don't compare osm with reality. It's nowhere close to reality, so don't apply real-life logic into explaining the game results. Osm has just a basic (unrealistic) simulation engine which may have its own flaws. If you guys aren't happy with how your results turn out, just move on to other games like Fifa or something, which has a more realistic approach to simulating the games.
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@Bahadır-K You wrote : " I played good " . So what am I supposed to do now? Just take your word for it?
I'm not alone either mate when I say that this is just a game that I very much enjoy playing and that I have learnt to be pleased and happy with every win I get but also to take on the chin any of my losses. Furthermore every manager has a personal game strategy or way of thinking on OSM, which of course makes sense.
So if you want , next time you'll get a "weird" result on your match you can bring the data and screens of your own tactics and opponent's ( Spy screenshot ) , the result/statistics of the match and we can have a nice friendly discussion. Just think about it ..
And by the way... I'm a female manager so you can't call me a dude ! LL Some of you are really trying to change my gender ... @SUPERNOVA-8 yes sometimes my grammer confused too, sorry. And i didnt know you are female
Anyway, Egypt leauge has ended. I am observing another matches. I hope i am wrong this luck thing.
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@SUPERNOVA-8 yes sometimes my grammer confused too, sorry. And i didnt know you are female
Anyway, Egypt leauge has ended. I am observing another matches. I hope i am wrong this luck thing.
@Bahadır-K No worries , it's just funny to see several managers calling me this way.
As for the luck, I believe it has been mentioned before on the forums that it does play a part sometimes but certainly not the biggest one my friend. Otherwise nobody would insist on playing OSM.
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You guys. Don't compare osm with reality. It's nowhere close to reality, so don't apply real-life logic into explaining the game results. Osm has just a basic (unrealistic) simulation engine which may have its own flaws. If you guys aren't happy with how your results turn out, just move on to other games like Fifa or something, which has a more realistic approach to simulating the games.
@Dhrubo-II said in the game engine is broken:
You guys. Don't compare osm with reality. It's nowhere close to reality, so don't apply real-life logic into explaining the game results. Osm has just a basic (unrealistic) simulation engine which may have its own flaws. If you guys aren't happy with how your results turn out, just move on to other games like Fifa or something, which has a more realistic approach to simulating the games.
Now now Dhrubo , you are no noob. I thought you knew better ; that it's against the forum rules to promote other football game sites in here. But if you are sure about your statement then by all means feel free to jump on that game site. Personally I do not have that intention.
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@Dhrubo-II said in the game engine is broken:
You guys. Don't compare osm with reality. It's nowhere close to reality, so don't apply real-life logic into explaining the game results. Osm has just a basic (unrealistic) simulation engine which may have its own flaws. If you guys aren't happy with how your results turn out, just move on to other games like Fifa or something, which has a more realistic approach to simulating the games.
Now now Dhrubo , you are no noob. I thought you knew better ; that it's against the forum rules to promote other football game sites in here. But if you are sure about your statement then by all means feel free to jump on that game site. Personally I do not have that intention.
@SUPERNOVA-8 Now now Sophie. You're better than this. The rule quotes 'Please do not promote competitors' websites'. Do you see any link to any website that I plugged in my post?
FYI (1), my post was meant as a suggestion for those who are seeking a more realistic approach to a football match simulation. FYI (2), Fifa is not a 'game site'. It's an actual game that you download and install to play. Just in case you didn't know that.
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@SUPERNOVA-8 Now now Sophie. You're better than this. The rule quotes 'Please do not promote competitors' websites'. Do you see any link to any website that I plugged in my post?
FYI (1), my post was meant as a suggestion for those who are seeking a more realistic approach to a football match simulation. FYI (2), Fifa is not a 'game site'. It's an actual game that you download and install to play. Just in case you didn't know that.
@Dhrubo-II In that case , thank you for your post Dhrubo.
And for the information. If I was mistaken I apologize for that matter. 
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@SUPERNOVA-8 Now now Sophie. You're better than this. The rule quotes 'Please do not promote competitors' websites'. Do you see any link to any website that I plugged in my post?
FYI (1), my post was meant as a suggestion for those who are seeking a more realistic approach to a football match simulation. FYI (2), Fifa is not a 'game site'. It's an actual game that you download and install to play. Just in case you didn't know that.
@Dhrubo-II said in the game engine is broken:
@SUPERNOVA-8 Now now Sophie. You're better than this. The rule quotes 'Please do not promote competitors' websites'. Do you see any link to any website that I plugged in my post?
FYI (1), my post was meant as a suggestion for those who are seeking a more realistic approach to a football match simulation. FYI (2), Fifa is not a 'game site'. It's an actual game that you download and install to play. Just in case you didn't know that.
That's exactly what happens with OSM app Dhrubo.
Are you trying to confuse me now? I don't know anything about other football games cause I don't care one bit to learn or download anything else.
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Im always more than happy to lose if the opponent deserves it and outplays me.. But I simply hate from the bottom of the heart results like this, even If I get them in my favour (but of course that happens like 1 time after I get hammered 10 times in the same style):
Results like this are always driving me close to quitting the game. I completely outpaly him, even though he used camp and I did not, but somehow he still manages to win, and to be worse its cup game so Im knocked out of cup due to this ### result. Really annoying and compeltely undeserving, and Its not the first time against the camp. Almost like this game is becoming pay to win game and it wants you to use as many camps as possible. Sad.
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@Dhrubo-II said in the game engine is broken:
@SUPERNOVA-8 Now now Sophie. You're better than this. The rule quotes 'Please do not promote competitors' websites'. Do you see any link to any website that I plugged in my post?
FYI (1), my post was meant as a suggestion for those who are seeking a more realistic approach to a football match simulation. FYI (2), Fifa is not a 'game site'. It's an actual game that you download and install to play. Just in case you didn't know that.
That's exactly what happens with OSM app Dhrubo.
Are you trying to confuse me now? I don't know anything about other football games cause I don't care one bit to learn or download anything else.
Thank you.@SUPERNOVA-8 Mobile apps aren't the only thing you can download and install.
Even though Fifa has a mobile app too, but usually it's played either on PC or consoles such as PS4 or Xbox. #GenerationGAP 
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@uchenna-a said in the game engine is broken:
@peenagees Also I think tactics impact on whether you win or get trashed is just too big and ridiculous in OSM. Even though tactics have a large impact in real life when two teams of similar quality play, I don't think tactics have as much as an impact in real life as they do in OSM when a big team plays a small team. It still remains that even when a small team has better tactics than a big team, the scorelines that a small team wins by in OSM is just stupid. The impact of tactics is just ridiculous and unrealistic in OSM, and I think the objective for OSM should be realism, and I don't think they are reaching that objective with their absolute trash, terrible, and broken game engine.
You keep repeating the same words over and over again ( and not just you mate ) , so let me ask you a couple things.
If the game engine is a complete failure then how come you got this kind of winning ratio?
How did you get 20 championships and 19 Cups? Why do we get to see 1256 winning matches on your game profile instead of lost ones?
And what are you trying to achieve by blaming the OSM engine for every loss that you get? After all it is the same engine that every manager on OSM is using therefore we all get the same chances for wins or losses. Am I right?
Why do you guys keep using this forum in such a negative way, throwing meaningless accusations on this topic about the game engine instead of trying to benefit and interact with each other by for instance presenting actual examples of lost matches with screen shots of those matches's results.
You could have a real discussion here, a creative conversation about your match results, your tactics and maybe just maybe this way you could exchange your ideas and thoughts about them, learn new things, get inspired by fellow managers , get improved and eventually try a different approach for goodness sake on your future settings and tactics.@SUPERNOVA-8 I just feel strongly about this topic, which is why I kept repeating the same statement at the end of my posts, cuz I actually meant to do that. Also is that actually a good ratio? Cuz I never really paid attention to that. I also didn't fully consider 20 championships and 19 cups to impressive because I have been playing on my computer for 2 years (With a 4-month break) and I just recently started to care about world domination and managing in small leagues.
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Im always more than happy to lose if the opponent deserves it and outplays me.. But I simply hate from the bottom of the heart results like this, even If I get them in my favour (but of course that happens like 1 time after I get hammered 10 times in the same style):
Results like this are always driving me close to quitting the game. I completely outpaly him, even though he used camp and I did not, but somehow he still manages to win, and to be worse its cup game so Im knocked out of cup due to this ### result. Really annoying and compeltely undeserving, and Its not the first time against the camp. Almost like this game is becoming pay to win game and it wants you to use as many camps as possible. Sad.
@Majstor-Matt This is sad mate but is something that we can't escape from this.
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@SUPERNOVA-8 Mobile apps aren't the only thing you can download and install.
Even though Fifa has a mobile app too, but usually it's played either on PC or consoles such as PS4 or Xbox. #GenerationGAP @Dhrubo-II said in the game engine is broken:
@SUPERNOVA-8 Mobile apps aren't the only thing you can download and install.
Even though Fifa has a mobile app too, but usually it's played either on PC or consoles such as PS4 or Xbox. #GenerationGAP Like I said, I'm not interested about it. As for your other comment. You're absolutely right on the generation gap. We can see that from your lack of good manners.
Oh well, at least I made you laugh...
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@Majstor-Matt This is sad mate but is something that we can't escape from this.
@Lirind I know, Im already used to this. In almost every league I ahve one ridiculous result like this. The most annoying thing is that I have to wait 10 times before Im on the other end of this "bingo luck" result. If it was happening more equally and If I was awarded more when Im dominated, well then it would be easier to accept this as normal.. But oh well, it is what it is..
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@Majstor-Matt Hiya Matty.
Please mate , since you were so kind to share 2 of your match stats and thank you so much for that , do me this favor and let's have a discussion about these results. It would mean a lot to me. Because I know you are a well experienced manager and you are the same man who posted in the past amazing results on the Braggers topic showing how to counter a TC ( Training Camp ).
So I was wondering, what made you choose to use a 343B in both matches ? The 343B is a super offensive formation , isn't it ? Therefore I suppose in both cases you had the stronger line up , otherwise it would make no sense to go with this formation.
Now , according to your first screenshot you were facing a TC . And your opponent was using a 433 B , which is also considered as one of the best offensive formations.
My question would be : how come you didn't choose a super defensive formation to counter him , since you decided not to reply with a TC of your own?
Why did you expect your only 3 defenders to be enough to stop the ball from finding the net? You know that a TC gives a big boost to the manager using it.
About your second match I bet that if you had used the 433 B , assuming again that your first 11 line up was way stronger , you would have won this match.
Generally I think that the 343 can be effective vs formations with only 1 or even 2 Forwards.
Would you please like to share your own thoughts about the above ?
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@Majstor-Matt Hiya Matty.
Please mate , since you were so kind to share 2 of your match stats and thank you so much for that , do me this favor and let's have a discussion about these results. It would mean a lot to me. Because I know you are a well experienced manager and you are the same man who posted in the past amazing results on the Braggers topic showing how to counter a TC ( Training Camp ).
So I was wondering, what made you choose to use a 343B in both matches ? The 343B is a super offensive formation , isn't it ? Therefore I suppose in both cases you had the stronger line up , otherwise it would make no sense to go with this formation.
Now , according to your first screenshot you were facing a TC . And your opponent was using a 433 B , which is also considered as one of the best offensive formations.
My question would be : how come you didn't choose a super defensive formation to counter him , since you decided not to reply with a TC of your own?
Why did you expect your only 3 defenders to be enough to stop the ball from finding the net? You know that a TC gives a big boost to the manager using it.
About your second match I bet that if you had used the 433 B , assuming again that your first 11 line up was way stronger , you would have won this match.
Generally I think that the 343 can be effective vs formations with only 1 or even 2 Forwards.
Would you please like to share your own thoughts about the above ?@SUPERNOVA-8 - I think you have a point, going all out attack or offensive every game is risky. I'd either use a training camp against a training camp or go super defensive tbh. Also, I myself, don't expect to win every game and if i lose a game or draw an easy game against a weak club , I take the advice from commentators or stats themself from the match and improve them. It's not a big deal if you lose! You learn from your mistakes and/or failures!
