the game engine is broken
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@SUPERNOVA-8 But there is no point in all this. This game becomes more and more luck orientated as every day passes. And that is a fact. And this pay to win stuff is also increasing with every day. They have chosen that path for the game and we managers cannot do anything about it, no wonder many legends that had such superior tactics in past left the game. There is simply no point in playing this game competitively anymore.
New ranking system is cherry on top of the cake for my statement. Basically you can open account, boost it with plenty of coins and you will enter top 100 managers in world in 6 months If you have enough IQ in your head. Thats a sad fact.
There have been many opinions, which express a feeling of the users, and among them criticize constructive .... it is not necessary to highlight an "express" comment ... but if you want it to be expressed clearly and concisely, I think this is the best:
@Majstor-Matt said in the game engine is broken:
@SUPERNOVA-8 But there is no point in all this. This game becomes more and more luck orientated as every day passes. And that is a fact. And this pay to win stuff is also increasing with every day. They have chosen that path for the game and we managers cannot do anything about it, no wonder many legends that had such superior tactics in past left the game. There is simply no point in playing this game competitively anymore.
New ranking system is cherry on top of the cake for my statement. Basically you can open account, boost it with plenty of coins and you will enter top 100 managers in world in 6 months If you have enough IQ in your head. Thats a sad fact.
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There have been many opinions, which express a feeling of the users, and among them criticize constructive .... it is not necessary to highlight an "express" comment ... but if you want it to be expressed clearly and concisely, I think this is the best:
@Majstor-Matt said in the game engine is broken:
@SUPERNOVA-8 But there is no point in all this. This game becomes more and more luck orientated as every day passes. And that is a fact. And this pay to win stuff is also increasing with every day. They have chosen that path for the game and we managers cannot do anything about it, no wonder many legends that had such superior tactics in past left the game. There is simply no point in playing this game competitively anymore.
New ranking system is cherry on top of the cake for my statement. Basically you can open account, boost it with plenty of coins and you will enter top 100 managers in world in 6 months If you have enough IQ in your head. Thats a sad fact.
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@uchenna-a Thank you my friend. And I do appreciate your honesty and apology is accepted .
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As for playing defensively, this is what happened Sof. No help against luck and OP part of TC's..
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As for playing defensively, this is what happened Sof. No help against luck and OP part of TC's..@Majstor-Matt Matty come on now buddy ..
Nobody ever said that countering a TC is an easy job. But if someone can do it then it's you Doc! 
And are you trying to tell me that the 442A is your best defensive formation against the offensive 442B ?
You used reckless tackling on a green Ref which was great!But how come you didn't choose a different formation , like a 451 or a 541, or a 5311 or a 631 , with plenty of defenders on your line up? It's a TC for goodness sake.
Even if you had double value in your line up compared to your opposition you should react as if you were on the weakest side. After all it's a big boost , not 2% , not 5% , it's 25% mate. Since you prefer not to use TCs then I'd expect you to build up your squad in way that you would have your defenders reinforced and your pitch level upgraded. If you want you could try it next time with a 541 SOS or a 631 CA. Just for the fun of it and let's see what happens.โEducating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.โ Aristotle
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@Majstor-Matt Matty come on now buddy ..
Nobody ever said that countering a TC is an easy job. But if someone can do it then it's you Doc!
And are you trying to tell me that the 442A is your best defensive formation against the offensive 442B ?
You used reckless tackling on a green Ref which was great!But how come you didn't choose a different formation , like a 451 or a 541, or a 5311 or a 631 , with plenty of defenders on your line up? It's a TC for goodness sake.
Even if you had double value in your line up compared to your opposition you should react as if you were on the weakest side. After all it's a big boost , not 2% , not 5% , it's 25% mate. Since you prefer not to use TCs then I'd expect you to build up your squad in way that you would have your defenders reinforced and your pitch level upgraded. If you want you could try it next time with a 541 SOS or a 631 CA. Just for the fun of it and let's see what happens.@SUPERNOVA-8 I use the best possible formation depending on my current squad, puttin fitness and cards into accout as well. This time 4-4-2 was the best possible option. After all I managed to reduce his attackers to 4 shots on goal, I cant do more than that. But whern TC gives you 75% accuracy you cant do anything against it..
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@bearded-conte said in the game engine is broken:
Something changed these days, an update may happened seems more easy to get an away win so overall till now on this short time seems fine! We just have to update our tactics and I dont think that GB changed the way of engine worked so we just need an update in our numbers and why not in all tactic. At the end these days also in real life managers they have to change the way of their play. This happen before and this gonna happen in the future we just have to upgrade our self.
I couldn't agree more with the last part of your post Conte.
We should be flexible , try new things and constantly evolve our managerial skills.
About the away matches, I have to disagree with you.
It is always and still much harder to get an away win imo but not impossible if you use the right tactics.
If you want we could talk with numbers. You could share a screen shot showing for a example a battle league where the total Away won matches were more than the Home wins. And I say battle leagues cause at least in those every manager fights hard to win every match and no TCs are involved.
For example , this screen was taken from my last CB.
And I know for a fact that there have been mistakes on tactics for some of the Home matches , otherwise we would have seen even more Home wins.
Here's another one :
And this one :
What do you say ?
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@SUPERNOVA-8 I use the best possible formation depending on my current squad, puttin fitness and cards into accout as well. This time 4-4-2 was the best possible option. After all I managed to reduce his attackers to 4 shots on goal, I cant do more than that. But whern TC gives you 75% accuracy you cant do anything against it..
@Majstor-Matt said in the game engine is broken:
@SUPERNOVA-8 I use the best possible formation depending on my current squad, puttin fitness and cards into accout as well. This time 4-4-2 was the best possible option. After all I managed to reduce his attackers to 4 shots on goal, I cant do more than that. But whern TC gives you 75% accuracy you cant do anything against it..
Alright Matty , I trust your words and your skills.
All I'm saying is that since you have to fight back against TCs that often then shouldn't you prepare your team in a defensive way? Starting with more defenders on your squad building. But nevermind that, I have something else to propose to you. Oh you're gonna laugh now buddy but please think about it seriously as a very good option.
Why don't you join a Crew once again? This way you could still enjoy the pleasure of pure tactics in every CB and also have fun with the CLs. No more TCs, no more headaches and frustration.
That's what I am doing right now Matty, I chose to play the game I love in my own terms and I'm so happy about it!
After all, every manager on OSM is free to choose his gaming style, is free to choose to use TCs or not , is free to spend BCs or not to.
See what I'm trying to say here?โEducating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.โ Aristotle
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@Majstor-Matt said in the game engine is broken:
@SUPERNOVA-8 I use the best possible formation depending on my current squad, puttin fitness and cards into accout as well. This time 4-4-2 was the best possible option. After all I managed to reduce his attackers to 4 shots on goal, I cant do more than that. But whern TC gives you 75% accuracy you cant do anything against it..
Alright Matty , I trust your words and your skills.
All I'm saying is that since you have to fight back against TCs that often then shouldn't you prepare your team in a defensive way? Starting with more defenders on your squad building. But nevermind that, I have something else to propose to you. Oh you're gonna laugh now buddy but please think about it seriously as a very good option.
Why don't you join a Crew once again? This way you could still enjoy the pleasure of pure tactics in every CB and also have fun with the CLs. No more TCs, no more headaches and frustration.
That's what I am doing right now Matty, I chose to play the game I love in my own terms and I'm so happy about it! After all, every manager on OSM is free to choose his gaming style, is free to choose to use TCs or not , is free to spend BCs or not to.
See what I'm trying to say here?@SUPERNOVA-8 Nah, those competitive days are long behind me now
I had my fun with them years back, when battles were epic stuff without boss coins and stuff like that. Pure tactics was deciding factor back day
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@SUPERNOVA-8 Nah, those competitive days are long behind me now
I had my fun with them years back, when battles were epic stuff without boss coins and stuff like that. Pure tactics was deciding factor back day @Majstor-Matt said in the game engine is broken:
@SUPERNOVA-8 Nah, those competitive days are long behind me now
I had my fun with them years back, when battles were epic stuff without boss coins and stuff like that. Pure tactics was deciding factor back day Hihi, I told ya I'm gonna make you laugh buddy...
But that's exactly what I have been doing lately myself.
I'm enjoying my gaming time with pure tactics and nothing else but that!
Come on , at least think about it... Your managerial skills are wasted man.
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@jorrito_NL i think same way too. Somethings changed really in game engine. We need to find that change for these questions' really answers
Defansif dรผnyamda zorlu rakip mi? ลansa ihtiyacฤฑ olacak.
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@jorrito_NL i think same way too. Somethings changed really in game engine. We need to find that change for these questions' really answers
@Bahadฤฑr-K Yeah even though last weekend I talked on this same issue multiple times, I still think that the game engine can be really strange and good at times. I guess that is why it is called a game engine, because it is based on a game that is and cannot always be realistic, with some luck and a lot of tactical decisions included in deciding who wins each game.
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@bearded-conte said in the game engine is broken:
I just stared all fresh leagues I havent yet these data. I noticed that seems to be more easy to get a win! maybe im wrong and I updated myself and seems to be working. Im talking for these 3-4 days lets see in some days., maybe nothing changed. Give me some time and I can give an input about it.
I guess this post was a reply to me. Please correct me if I'm wrong Conte but you forgot to tag my name..
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As for playing defensively, this is what happened Sof. No help against luck and OP part of TC's..@Majstor-Matt said in the game engine is broken:
@SUPERNOVA-8
As for playing defensively, this is what happened Sof. No help against luck and OP part of TC's..Matty , look what I found buddy !
Please check the latest post on the Tactics Requests topic - https://forum.onlinesoccermanager.com/topic/34410/tactics-requests/2734@Bahadฤฑr-K Thanks again for sharing Bahadir !
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@Majstor-Matt said in the game engine is broken:
@SUPERNOVA-8
As for playing defensively, this is what happened Sof. No help against luck and OP part of TC's..Matty , look what I found buddy !
Please check the latest post on the Tactics Requests topic - https://forum.onlinesoccermanager.com/topic/34410/tactics-requests/2734@Bahadฤฑr-K Thanks again for sharing Bahadir !
@SUPERNOVA-8 Good stuff, but from my experince those ultra defensive tactics work better against 343 and 433 than they do against 442 or 451.
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@SUPERNOVA-8 Good stuff, but from my experince those ultra defensive tactics work better against 343 and 433 than they do against 442 or 451.
@Majstor-Matt said in the game engine is broken:
@SUPERNOVA-8 Good stuff, but from my experince those ultra defensive tactics work better against 343 and 433 than they do against 442 or 451.
See what I mean you lil devil ?
I bet on what you've just said and that's exactly what I was expecting to see coming from you Doc.
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Once again, an example of the strange game engine. I am playing careful tackling and the ref is yellow, I get no yellow cards ( no yellow cards always guaranteed with careful tackling) but concede 2 PENALTIES and the opponent concedes no penalties and was using normal tackling. I end up losing 3-1, and I could have drawn 1-1, or lost 2-1 and only conceded 1 penalty (which still would be strange), but no, I lose 3-1 instead. It was even more frustrating that I drew the team 1-1 at their home with exact same tactics from both teams and no training camps (matches happened in battle) with no penalties conceded, but I then lose 3-1 at my home by conceding 2 penalties, and I wasn't even playing agressive. Just so sad and strange...
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Once again, an example of the strange game engine. I am playing careful tackling and the ref is yellow, I get no yellow cards ( no yellow cards always guaranteed with careful tackling) but concede 2 PENALTIES and the opponent concedes no penalties and was using normal tackling. I end up losing 3-1, and I could have drawn 1-1, or lost 2-1 and only conceded 1 penalty (which still would be strange), but no, I lose 3-1 instead. It was even more frustrating that I drew the team 1-1 at their home with exact same tactics from both teams and no training camps (matches happened in battle) with no penalties conceded, but I then lose 3-1 at my home by conceding 2 penalties, and I wasn't even playing agressive. Just so sad and strange...
@uchenna-a so sad, yes. I played normal tackling against yellow referee and i got red card. I understand your luck, really
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@uchenna-a so sad, yes. I played normal tackling against yellow referee and i got red card. I understand your luck, really
@Bahadฤฑr-K said in the game engine is broken:
@uchenna-a so sad, yes. I played normal tackling against yellow referee and i got red card. I understand your luck, really
Yellow Ref & Normal tackling ... Correct choice
But Bahadir , please have a look at this old topic too :
https://forum.onlinesoccermanager.com/topic/5738/referees-and-their-effects/4
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Once again, as Juventus, I lose 3-2 because I concede 2 PENALTIES and the opponent concedes none. Of course, the opponent scores both of them. I was using CAREFUL tackling and the opponent was using NORMAL tackling, and the REF WAS GREEN. The other team commits 12 fouls and gets one yellow card and I commit 4 fouls and no yellow cards, and I commit freakin 2 PENALTIES and I end up losing 3-2 when I should have won 2-1 or at least drawn 2-2, and now I fall from 1st to 2nd place. Why...just why....
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@Ecotheafkguy - Maybe your team doesn't bond with the tactics, and maybe you had the wrong sliders which didn't match your opponents tactics
