[AUTHORIZED] Balkan Winter Cup - Individual Championship of Balkan
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@JetonT Jeton as you can see I know the whole story. Ado apologized to me and to others for his signature and changed it for the sake of this event. I know you were pissed off mate but can we please leave all this behind and move on in a more positive way ?
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P.S Guys please stop blaming Ivan for everything ! He is only the event's organizer , not the legal guardian of every other participant in here. It is so unfair to attack him this way all the time. Both sides made mistakes , accept it and let's move on please !
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Hi @SUPERNOVA-8 . Thanks for your support and insight. I spent sp much time and energy while organising this, i hoped everything will go as smooth as possible, but as you can see there will always be people who will turn everything into politics.
What I've been saying all a long to all the 'sides', I'm a very apolitical person, I don't follow politics, I couldn't care less about political situations in any country and among anyone. It has nothing to do woth OSM and it has no place here. What I care about are the rules of the tournament. Anyone who doesnt want to follow the rules of the tournament cant be a part of it. On the other hand for those who argue about politics on this forum there are people who can take certain actions to make them follow the rules of the forum.
To be completely honest, this is exactly what I have expected of the first season. I knew there will be people who will not be willing to follow the rules, and i hoped to filter out those people in the forst season so that in the following editions the tournament could be played fairly and properly.
I must say that I've been under a lot of pressure from a group of people who kept threthening me from the very begining that they will bojkot the competition if I dont organise it in the way it suits them. I stood my ground and didnt allow them to extort anything pf me and now I know who are those people who are not to be allowed to compete in for the sake of all the others. If there will be another edition of the tournament, I'm positive that there will not be these kinds of incidents.And as for this edition, I hope, moreover, I'm pretty certain that everything will go according to plan
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I wouldn't try to deny anyone of making their comments here, some solid discussion would be "healthy" for future sake of this event. It would be complete disaster to ban this certain event because of the political matter that has occurred. What I would propose to people that organize these kind of events is to put clear, strict rules about using, discussing political subjects that are flamable in Balkans nations, including any kind of controversial historic persona, event, motto, historical iconography that promotes fascism, nationalism, that calls or was being used to call for extermination, killing, bashing, discriminating people, or group of people etc. You get the point here. Personal opinions on some current and past political events at the Balkans should stay PERSONAL. Anyone not complying to those rules should be cut off in the start. If someone here would dare to defend controversial events - on forums of sport game - these a line should be made, and everything about this halted. Politics ruin sport. Thank you @SUPERNOVA-8 for being good sport, and politely moderating this topic. I'm sure next event would be even better. People learn on their mistakes.
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@Danteus said in [AUTHORIZED] Balkan Winter Cup - Individual Championship of Balkan:
I wouldn't try to deny anyone of making their comments here, some solid discussion would be "healthy" for future sake of this event. It would be complete disaster to ban this certain event because of the political matter that has occurred. What I would propose to people that organize these kind of events is to put clear, strict rules about using, discussing political subjects that are flamable in Balkans nations, including any kind of controversial historic persona, event, motto, historical iconography that promotes fascism, nationalism, that calls or was being used to call for extermination, killing, bashing, discriminating people, or group of people etc. You get the point here. Personal opinions on some current and past political events at the Balkans should stay PERSONAL. Anyone not complying to those rules should be cut off in the start. If someone here would dare to defend controversial events - on forums of sport game - these a line should be made, and everything about this halted. Politics ruin sport. Thank you @SUPERNOVA-8 for being good sport, and politely moderating this topic. I'm sure next event would be even better. People learn on their mistakes.
Bravo!!! I completely agree with you .. no need to mix politics and sports (in our case a game called 'OSM').
And I agree that anyone in their profile (by the rules of the forum, which I understand, may write in their own language) has something political, fascist and similar, should immediately react, warn and eliminate a potential problem that may turn out ...
In general, @IvanAndal is put here to shoot from all sides, and he is neither a mom nor a dad to all these people so that he can educate them how to behave, or how to be raised, and some are obviously raised in hatred, and that's not the place here , at least not participate in the BWC they applied for.
Everything can be solved, the normal way .. but only if there is a positive desire from all sides ... but yes, I agree, the first is the tournament, a lot of things are not working properly, but everything was fine until the policy was included in the all this, the stubbornness of the players and, above all, the disrespect for the forum, the organization and @IvanAndal himself who started all this on his own, and this is his gratitude for everything he started ?! But I know it will get better and better next season if those who need to allow it allow it. And my suggestion, of course, is that some of the administrators might be more actively involved in all of this, so that they have the correct insight into the regularity and fair competition that we plan to be.
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I didn't want to reply haha but cmon guys don't create melodrama here, some of the guys here writing how situation should be are exactly these guys who up-voted people who offended here so please stop talking how is should be cuz I think we are all grown ups to know how we have to react on situation like this. Politics shouldn't have place here and the organised should have reacted on it and disqualify him. We are not talking here to take care about someone or something so move on. Hope the best one will win this tournament. Peace dudes.
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@bearded-conte I see that now they are trying to victimized theirself and protect their player but the mod knows exactly who was the responsible for this, so i hope this not will repeated again in next event. See you in next battle champ
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@bearded-conte Dude...
please ... we all know here that your reaction was deliberate and this had nothing to do with BWC and the competition ... he wrote what he wrote on HIS PROFILE and it had nothing to do with the competition .. .we, because of your 'stuff', were supposed to ignore you all and boycott you all, looking at your profiles and crews ... so please don't act innocent to me and you could start growing up by yourself.. -
@Alexandar-Blumenshtil hahahaha why so nervous dude! Calm down and chillout
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@bearded-conte
Ok, for starters, I'm not even 1% nervous, especially not because of you.Do you remember maybe how this all started? I will tell you how.
One of your players offended Ado by spelling his name in your language. His reaction to all this, because he was definitely provoked by you, was that he wrote what he wrote on his profile on the forum. After that, you were offended by something and demanded that you do your justice by blackmailing @IvanAndal that you would boycott the tournament if you did not throw him out .. sorry for what? because the first one was provoked by you ?!
Ok, as you ALL see, I posted an interesting picture here, too, and now I'll explain why.
Your player, @festimi17 has posted on his profile in OSM 'Kosovo is Albania' ..And now what? There is supposedly no place for politics in sports, in this case in the game .. And what have we done? From the beginning we played, we didn't talk, we played the tournament because this is a game, and where we thought that at least somewhere we could have a more normal relationship with you.
But no, you had to start provoking .. And why wasn't this guy alerted by the admin for this banner? Are we supposed to boycott from the beginning because he writes things that have nothing to do with sports and has to do with politics and relations between Albania and, above all, Serbia?
Please don't pull my tongue anymore, because there are so many things I could write about you where you don't respect OSM, this organization, or anything else ...And the best thing for you to do is to provoke, and then to fall out of innocence ... So please, you ended up with the BWC and move on, that was your path, and there was much more material for you and us . Greeting! -
"Provocative " " Provocative " " Provocative " then where you were earlier when the friend owns the post, or was it possible for the mouth to stop at that time?!?!?
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@Alexandar-Blumenshtil It looks like you too need some history class, first of all , people in Kosovo we are albanian in ethnicity but from Kosovo, Kosovo was taken from Albania on 1912 (and the other regions with the 99 % in albanian ethnicity like Tetovo, Ulqin, Gostivar, Dibra etc ) and find me now just one albanian from Albania who is provoked from my signature.You cant be provoked by yourself (only schizophrens maybe) cause we are one ethnicity with 2 diferent countrys. LEARN THIS.Albanians from Albania and from Kosovo we are the same (like in Preshev, Medvegj,Bujanoc that were taken too by the Serbia) but to say Kosovo is Serbia ( who have killed so much of my own people) yees this is provokation. We are independent from 2008 with 116 recognized states. So dont manipulate the provokation from Haqkoviq. And yes, i write in this form cause this is my way of writing, their Δ is our q ( or Γ§) and have nothing to do with some kind of provoking like you said,you are looking to find something from nothing but we all now who is guilty for this. So dont mentioned my name when you don't know nothing about me or my my people and neither my Albania and Kosovo. Goodnight and try to accept your mistakes next time.
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TOPIC CLOSED!!!
If you want to keep discussing Albanis/Kosovo/Servia/... all balcan problems, join political forums!
A chance was given to EX-YU community to see if lesson was learn after years where you had no access to OSM... looks like nothing was learn....
Sad to see that not even in a Game you guys manage to respect each other...
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I just want to add something else:
Every signature, profile, avatar that can be seen as political HAS TO BE removed ASAP (OSM and Forum). If reports come in and we decide that it should be removed, user will be informed and if he doesn't do it on next login account will be permanently locked!
This topic will be deleted in a couple days!
