Specific Player Positions - Discussion Topic
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As much as I always wanted this update to happen (since the start of my OSM career I wanted to see positions on OSM) I must agree with some people here and say that sadly this update was not ready yet to be implemented on OSM. Some of the problems I have with this:
- too many players are put in certain positions, while in real life they play couple positions
- some positions are not well presented on the transfer list, and in game in overall (too few RM & LM players specifically)
These 2 problems are biggest ones for me. Just as the medals system, on its own this is a great idea, but its been rushed and not worked out well before being put into game.
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Would be nice to just get a heads up and say it goes live on a certain date, instead of “from now”. A lot of people have 4 accounts and in competitive leagues and won’t have teams ready. A few days earlier it wouldn’t have been hard to just say it goes live on 10th feb on the 7th feb for example. @SpecialOne
I won’t say anything else on the subject, no point, just get ignored
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- Does this mean that in a formation with 1 FW, we can not give him support midfielders, because it must be ST who has little defensive skills?
- Why are there no RB on my transfer list?
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@kromunal said in Game Updates:
- Does this mean that in a formation with 1 FW, we can not give him support midfielders, because it must be ST who has little defensive skills?
- Why are there no RB on my transfer list?
There are no RBs because there are not much full backs in the world.
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@SpecialOne has told utility positions aren't available now. -
@wakil-isco is it for everyone now? I can see it as well but I was thinking about what could potentially happen should I not follow it.
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@aweijie
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@wenger-wise Or maybe just create a fantasy league WITHOUT Transfers, pretty simple.
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Would it affect the rating and performance of the players if for example LF played as a RF ??
I already built my squad in a very very combative league ( 19 active and friends managers ) and its not easy to rebuild a team in that league
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@specialone Too bad that there is nobody from GB is online to answer questions while this change is suddenly implemented and has huge impact on the matches tonight. We really need more information about the impact of letting players play out of position. For example: I appear to have 4 DC's and 1 DR in my team, how big will the reduction for my DC with 14 Att be when I pitch as DL? Or would it be better to buy a DL on the transferlist which has a 10% lower defending rating because he performs better on DL than my current player.
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@mαhmouժ-muhαmmαժ Yes, you can continue using your forwards as you like.
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@koningco said in Specific Player Positions - Discussion Topic:
... has huge impact on the matches ...
Unfortunately, we can't share information on the exact impact of bonuses. However, we can share that lining up all your players on their specific positions will generate a bonus that's comparable to lining up the right Specialists.
Because specific positions and Specialists are a nice way for a manager to add that extra touch to the Line-up."Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill
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@koningco said in Specific Player Positions - Discussion Topic:
... there are no side midfielders (MR/ML) or wingbacks (DR/DL) on the transfer list ...
You can still use all Attackers/Midfielders/Defenders on their positions. Specific players on their specific position just adds a bonus.
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@majstor-matt said in Specific Player Positions - Discussion Topic:
- too many players are put in certain positions, while in real life they play couple positions
Yes, some players can play on several positions in real life. But most of them have one favourite specific position. The position in which the player features most, is used as their specific position in OSM.
Reminder: players still perform on their line. Specific position is just an additional bonus."Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill
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@specialone Would be so cool if we had some numbers, or rough estimation what does "performing worse" actually means, is it like 10-20-30% performance decrease, or. One thing I've noticed, transfer lists will have to be a bit more flexible, for example, in my Italian league, whole transfer list is populated by CBs only, no other types of defenders
*Cool update, though. Much more interesting to build a team now!
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Super awesome I can totally build my team in a 3-5-2 with only LB/RBs, CMs, CAMs and CDMs available in the market........
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@majstor-matt
Hey mate, notice the source you sent, in that many players are actually centre-backs and defensive midfielder. Right backs and left back is just one of their utility position. -
I am not too happy now I built my line-ups on two subaccounts for tonight's matches. I really notice that I it's too difficult to build a good squad now.
Normally I check which lines need reinforcement: for example my defense needs a better player because the worst player is 7 points below the team average. Then most of the time I can buy a new defender with some attack skill. But now I have to buy a LB (left defender) and I notice that there is no LB on the market. I really think this player position update needs changes on the transfer market as well. We need enough players on every position for every manager, so more players in general and especially changes that add more rare players like RM/LM.
The second disadvantage is that the new update makes it's more difficult to switch tactics against different opponents. Normally I use 5 formations per season (sometimes 1 or 2 more in case of injuries / suspensed players). But with players on specific positions these tactical options are reduced. Example: 4231 requires a RM + a LM, while these players are not useful in 433 (A or B) anymore.
And the third disadvantage: it's more difficult to replace a tired or injured player. You normally won't have a backup DR + backup DL+ backup DC.
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This update is something we need to adjust and learn with.
But already i have a proposal:- remove the diffence between RB and LB, and LM/RM and RF/LF. Its gonna be very annoying to keep a balanced team and enjoy all the bonusses possible.
- with this update we need a far more balanced transfer list, fixed transfer worker times, etc.
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On the other hand it is another update that pushes the game towards being a FIFA Ultimate Team Look-a-like.
