Referees and their Effects
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@supernova-8 is there any significant change about pressure and actitude actually?
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@datalcar said in Referees and their Effects:
@supernova-8 is there any significant change about pressure and actitude actually?
Hello David !
I'm sorry but I'm not sure what exactly you're asking me. Could you please explain to me your thoughts? -
@supernova-8 said in Referees and their Effects:
This is what my Spy had to tell me about my opposition.
Now to continue and complete my case study , I took screen shots of my own line up and tactics 2 days ago in order to present them
in here with the hope it triggers a nice chat and exchange of opinions within our community.My line up on that match:
My tactics on that match:
The results of the match:
Words of the game's commentators:
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So in a few words .. I was playing at my home vs a weaker CPU team , our Ref was a red one ( the worst Ref - strictest of them all ) and the CPU team decides to play with 451 CounterAttack, Man Marking , No Offside Trap and Normal tackling .
What do you have to say about this case study?
What are your thoughts guys?
I'm all ears !
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Today's result, played away with careful strategy
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@joost-sœter_nl You won !!
Ah, I don't know your name. Well done! My congrats to you! 
I hope this topic made you see things from a different point of view. How do you feel about this away victory? Wanna share any thoughts? -
@supernova-8 It really depends on for example your teamvalue and the tactic of your opponent. He played with normal strategy, but my team got a teamvalue of 1,3B.
Because my team is a lot better I can take the risk of playing carefull. In the more competitive leagues carefull isn't an option to play.
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@joost-sœter_nl I respect your opinion and experience. If you feel this way you must have your reasons.
But I have taken place in the near past to much more competitive leagues and my strategy remained the same. No matter which team or line up has the upper hand, if the Ref is a red one I choose to go with Careful tackling. I leave all the red & yellow cards for my opposition. -
@supernova-8 And by more competitive you mean like Crew Cup or WCC?
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@joost-sœter_nl I mean any small or bigger league that involved actual human managers for each club , who were experienced, great squad builders and creative tacticians.And yes I had been a Crew member in my past and had the pleasure of participating in both Crew Leagues and few Crew Battles ( dammit, sometimes I really miss the battles's thrilling adventures.
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Does anybody else care to share personal experiences or thoughts about this matter?
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@SUPERNOVA-8
I see you play quite careful when the referee is orange and red, there is a popular belief of playing aggressive and hard with a low pressure when is orange or red, what happens is that it is said that careful play does not bring good results when your opponent plays with a greater mentality.What do you think about that? Have you studied this comparison?
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@datalcar said in Referees and their Effects:
@SUPERNOVA-8
I see you play quite careful when the referee is orange and red, there is a popular belief of playing aggressive and hard with a low pressure when is orange or red, what happens is that it is said that careful play does not bring good results when your opponent plays with a greater mentality.What do you think about that? Have you studied this comparison?
Every manager has the right to support his or her ideas right? I am confident about my choices concerning the Referees .
About the Pressure...If you use too high , like close to 100% all the time then your players lose fitness faster and then you have possibly more injuries. If you use too low Pressure then you might see your players missing a lot of scoring opportunities.
Maybe I am wrong but that's how I see things...
“Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” Aristotle
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@datalcar @SUPERNOVA-8 From what I've experienced in the game, pressure seems to affect fitness more than the player discipline. I used to play with a very high pressure when I started playing OSM. And there have been scenarios where my player got injured and his sub got injured too minutes after getting on
So I just stick my pressure to 70 these days, unless I play defensive. -
@tony-alvera said in Referees and their Effects:
From what I've experienced in the game, pressure seems to affect fitness more than the player discipline. I used to play with a very high pressure when I started playing OSM. And there have been scenarios where my player got injured and his sub got injured too minutes after getting on So I just stick my pressure to 70 these days, unless I play defensive.
@tony-alvera said in Referees and their Effects:
@datalcar @SUPERNOVA-8 From what I've experienced in the game, pressure seems to affect fitness more than the player discipline. I used to play with a very high pressure when I started playing OSM. And there have been scenarios where my player got injured and his sub got injured too minutes after getting on
So I just stick my pressure to 70 these days, unless I play defensive.Does it mean that you do not relate the pressure to the referee's attitude? Why do they all relate it? How does this relationship influence?
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@supernova-8 said in Referees and their Effects:
@datalcar said in Referees and their Effects:
@SUPERNOVA-8
I see you play quite careful when the referee is orange and red, there is a popular belief of playing aggressive and hard with a low pressure when is orange or red, what happens is that it is said that careful play does not bring good results when your opponent plays with a greater mentality.What do you think about that? Have you studied this comparison?
Every manager has the right to support his or her ideas right? I am confident about my choices concerning the Referees .
About the Pressure...If you use too high , like close to 100% all the time then your players lose fitness faster and then you have possibly more injuries. If you use too low Pressure then you might see your players missing a lot of scoring opportunities.
Maybe I am wrong but that's how I see things...Will you have a high percentage of wins when playing carefully? How are your statistics when playing like that? really that is my fear of playing careful, that the opponent plays me aggressive and dominates the game for this. Imagine in a cup final!!
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@datalcar From this same topic mate... It is frustrating the fact that our forum is full of valuable data and infos and tips but most of our forumers are not bothered to read a little day by day to find so many answers ...
https://forum.onlinesoccermanager.com/topic/5738/referees-and-their-effects/47?page=3
Look at my given examples of my matches
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@supernova-8
Thanks, I really should make a test league using your recommendations exactly, it would not be bad. -
@datalcar said in Referees and their Effects:
@supernova-8
Thanks, I really should make a test league using your recommendations exactly, it would not be bad.You are welcome mate. And please remember that this is a game , fear has no place in here. Be brave , be bold , always try new things and experiment . That's the fun about OSM and only through our defeats and any mistakes we get to improve our results and effectiveness.
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@datalcar I don't relate them directly. This is pretty much the same in real life football too. Referees do not hand out cards because of pressing. Pressing the opponent is completely legal way of forcing them to make mistakes. And more importantly, you don't even need to make contact with your opponent to press him. There are many ways to go about it, and a lot of them are contact free too. So a high press doesn't necessarily mean high flying tackles and stuff.
Pressing depends on how you approach a game, your way of playing, the way your opponent plays, who's gonna see more of the ball, etc. Let's just say your team is quite stronger than the opposition. It is highly likely that you enjoy the most of the possession. Pressing comes into play only when you don't have the ball. So in this case, a moderate press will be sufficient. But if your team is the weaker, especially the midfield, then you need the high press. You need to press the opponent into mistakes and win the back the ball. That's why high press is most suitable for good counter-attacking teams. And the referees don't really mind the high press as long as you keep the tackles clean. Guess this works the same in-game.
